Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[alexhortdog95]

I'd take Oklahoma in an instant. I think they're regretting their decision to stay as well as they were basically the McQuearys while TEJAS was butt-raping the rest of the conference in the showers.

Add them to the west so we can have that annual Oklahoma/Nebraska game back, give away the Pedsters and we'll take Pitt.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

From a football perspective, OU doesn't seem that bad a fit. But, and I'll let @ORD_Buckeye take it from here, academically.......

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

From a football perspective, OU doesn't seem that bad a fit. But, and I'll let @ORD_Buckeye take it from here, academically.......

Boren is hellbent on getting them into the AAU. Right now, I don't see OU as being on any short lists for AAU membership, and I don't see Boren being around long enough to make it happen. Who knows what the school's priorities might be after he's gone. I think Boren is shooting for the Big Ten but realistically realizing the SEC is going to be more likely. Hilarious that after playing the sidekick to Texas' Scott Farkus for so long, they've finally had enough and want out.

I basically think Texas is fucked. They're too selfish to shut down the LHN and save the Big 12, and no other conference will take them with special treatment. I think they're just so delusionally egotistical as to think they can make it as an independent. I would really love to watch that train wreck unfold.

 

[Abenaki]

Boren is hellbent on getting them into the AAU. Right now, I don't see OU as being on any short lists for AAU membership, and I don't see Boren being around long enough to make it happen. Who knows what the school's priorities might be after he's gone. I think Boren is shooting for the Big Ten but realistically realizing the SEC is going to be more likely. Hilarious that after playing the sidekick to Texas' Scott Farkus for so long, they've finally had enough and want out.

I basically think Texas is fucked. They're too selfish to shut down the LHN and save the Big 12, and no other conference will take them with special treatment. I think they're just so delusionally egotistical as to think they can make it as an independent. I would really love to watch that train wreck unfold.

How does Oklahoma compare to Nebraska, academically?

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

How does Oklahoma compare to Nebraska, academically?

About the same.

 

[Abenaki]

About the same.

Thanks! Just curious.

 

[kujirakira]

We could have only hoped

This might be the only post of yours I ever like.
That school should have no more football team, no more athletic department.

 

[kujirakira]

Boren is hellbent on getting them into the AAU. Right now, I don't see OU as being on any short lists for AAU membership, and I don't see Boren being around long enough to make it happen. Who knows what the school's priorities might be after he's gone. I think Boren is shooting for the Big Ten but realistically realizing the SEC is going to be more likely. Hilarious that after playing the sidekick to Texas' Scott Farkus for so long, they've finally had enough and want out.

I basically think Texas is fucked. They're too selfish to shut down the LHN and save the Big 12, and no other conference will take them with special treatment. I think they're just so delusionally egotistical as to think they can make it as an independent. I would really love to watch that train wreck unfold.

I see Texas in the PAC eventually. They won't get special treatment, but they'll still get to lord over their own Division with 3 BXII buddies plus old pal CU (thought they had escaped), Utah, and 2 'Zona schools. Once conferences start hitting 16, you're almost looking at a situation where Divisions are more like your Conference - and the cross-Division games are essentially the same as "scheduling agreements" with another Conference.
After that, won't surprise me if we start seeing Divisions split off -- mostly intact -- and form a "new" conferences. ie: SEC West adds OU and another to make 8 per division. A couple decades later SEC West drops a bottom feeder like MS State, picks up Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee from the East and you've got SEC 2.0 with 10 teams again. MS State and the rest of the East being left to fend for themselves in weaker conferences.

 

[cincibuck]

How does Oklahoma compare to Nebraska, academically?

To be fair, Okie academics are pretty well respected when it comes to oil, geology and Arab/Middle East studies. Granted that's at the grad/research level, but it is significant.

 

[cincibuck]

I see Texas in the PAC eventually. They won't get special treatment, but they'll still get to lord over their own Division with 3 BXII buddies plus old pal CU (thought they had escaped), Utah, and 2 'Zona schools. Once conferences start hitting 16, you're almost looking at a situation where Divisions are more like your Conference - and the cross-Division games are essentially the same as "scheduling agreements" with another Conference.
After that, won't surprise me if we start seeing Divisions split off -- mostly intact -- and form a "new" conferences. ie: SEC West adds OU and another to make 8 per division. A couple decades later SEC West drops a bottom feeder like MS State, picks up Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee from the East and you've got SEC 2.0 with 10 teams again. MS State and the rest of the East being left to fend for themselves in weaker conferences.

OK, were taking a long look here. At sixteen teams - possibly not that far off - won't conferences have to do more in-house scheduling? i.e. good bye MAC schools from all those Big Ten paydays. Good bye Louisianan South-by-Northwest, Middle Tennessee Central, and Florida Coastal Backwaters Tech games for the SEC.

I would also guess that it's going to all but end out-of-conference games among the P5 - ie good bye Stanford and USC in the same year for Notre Dame, good bye SEC - Big Ten "neutral site" (aka Jerry's World) games.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

I see the geology and oil angles, but I think you overestimate them in Middle East Studies. Here are the Title VI National Resource Centers for Middle Eastern Studies currently. Actually, they don't have a designated Center for any region; Ohio State has four

Middle East[edit]

• Columbia University
• Georgetown University
• Harvard University
• New York University
• Ohio State University
• Princeton University
• University of Arizona
• University of California, Berkeley
• University of California, Los Angeles
• University of Chicago - Center for Middle Eastern Studies
• University of Illinois - Center for South Asian and Middle Eastern Studies
• University of Michigan
• University of Pennsylvania
• University of Texas
• University of Utah
• University of Washington - Middle East Center
• Yale University

Perhaps, but I just see them as another Nebraska. They bring football and little else. No major tv markets. No top-tier academics. No fertile recruiting grounds (I don't think they open up Texas for B10 teams). Nebraska crawled to Chicago on their hands and knees and begged for the invitation, so I don't think we need to compromise to that degree just to bet their old rival back.

UNC and UVA make so much more sense on so many levels. Partially why I'm intrigued at what politics might come into play should a 1-loss UNC get left out of the playoff in favor of a 1-loss Notre Dame that didn't play in the ACC CCG.

 

[Woody1968]

UVA+Oklahoma would be my preference. UVA brings brains and recruiting grounds, Oklahoma brings the foosball, and the B1G would have natural rivalries with UNL/OU and MD/UVA. Don't care about Carolina.

 

[Sgt Brutus]

I'd take Oklahoma in an instant. I think they're regretting their decision to stay as well as they were basically the McQuearys while TEJAS was butt-raping the rest of the conference in the showers.

Add them to the west so we can have that annual Oklahoma/Nebraska game back, give away the Pedsters and we'll take Pitt.

Or just give Nebraska back

 

[Sgt Brutus]

That school should have no more football team, no more athletic department.

 

[TampaBuckeyes]

UVA+Oklahoma would be my preference. UVA brings brains and recruiting grounds, Oklahoma brings the foosball, and the B1G would have natural rivalries with UNL/OU and MD/UVA. Don't care about Carolina.

Agree. Right now. On the east it goes uva then ga tech then unc. On the west its oklahoma then Kansas. Don't want anyone else from there.