Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[TampaBuckeyes]

Huh? Please explain.

Oklahoma 2010: 3.75 m
1990: 3.15 m
19 percent increase

Texas2010: 25.15 m
1990 17.06 m
47 percent increase

North Carolina 2010: 9.54 m
1990 6.66 m
43 percent increase

Virginia 2010: 8 m
1990 6.22 m
29 percent increase

Us 2010: 309.3 m
1990: 249.6 m
24 percent increase

Population in Oklahoma is already really small and they are growing at a less then average rate. I only looked up 4 states but selected those because uva unc duke vatech and Texas schools are potential additions. That means that people there are either not reproducing at national avg or people are leaving the state and it looks like they are moving to Texas. That's not going to make anyone money. Btn gets money from cable subscriptions. Oklahoma demographics can apply to all b12 schools but Texas ones. Future of the b10 is to grab a Texas school and then go southeast.

 

[Mike80]

Fuck Texas schools....they aren't worth the trouble.

 

[TampaBuckeyes]

You'd rather have TexASS, ATM or Kansas instead of UNC/UVA or Georgia Tech?

I don't want any of them. No ACC schools are a fit for big ten. B12 is a bunch of states with no people. Least unfavorable would be Atm. There are just so many freaking people in Texas and I want them all to choke down the btn price tag.

 

[TampaBuckeyes]

Clemson. I would take. Clemson. I like the school. I work with a lot of guys from clemson and they seem pretty cool. The other year at the Orange bowl even before the game the Clemson fans were about the nicest I've met in a situation like that. It's a good academic school. They are a decent athletic school.

 

[BigWoof31]

Clemson. I would take. Clemson. I like the school. I work with a lot of guys from clemson and they seem pretty cool. The other year at the Orange bowl even before the game the Clemson fans were about the nicest I've met in a situation like that. It's a good academic school. They are a decent athletic school.

>Good academic school
>Clemson

Does not compute.....

 

[TampaBuckeyes]

>Good academic school
>Clemson

Does not compute.....

On U.S. news top public schools it sits tied at 20 with Purdue and Maryland. That puts it smack in the middle of big ten schools on that list. It's not up there with uva and ga tech but it's a lot better than Nebraska 45 and sparty 35. Even higher than Kansas and Oklahoma tied at 50. Now that doesn't take into account research dollars where Clemson is probably sitting lower than most of those schools.

 

[Bucky32]

Much like Purdue and Indiana, Kansas and Kansas State are pretty much tied together by their state legislature. It would be incredibly unlikely that they'd separate.

I don't think Oklahoma and T Boone State aren't joined that closely, though. In fact, wasn't Okie State actively campaigning to get in to the SEC, or somewhere else?

 

[kujirakira]

Much like Purdue and Indiana, Kansas and Kansas State are pretty much tied together by their state legislature. It would be incredibly unlikely that they'd separate.

I don't think Oklahoma and T Boone State aren't joined that closely, though. In fact, wasn't Okie State actively campaigning to get in to the SEC, or somewhere else?

So we can eliminate those 2... fine by me.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Absolutely. The Big Ten doesn't need any help on the basketball side, and KSU foosball has never been anything without Snyder. Horrible additions.

 

[Muck]

On U.S. news top public schools it sits tied at 20 with Purdue and Maryland. That puts it smack in the middle of big ten schools on that list. It's not up there with uva and ga tech but it's a lot better than Nebraska 45 and sparty 35. Even higher than Kansas and Oklahoma tied at 50. Now that doesn't take into account research dollars where Clemson is probably sitting lower than most of those schools.

Remember when there was a controversy a few years ago about schools 'gaming the system' to appear better on the USN&WR list?

Guess who the #1 culprit was.

On my composite list (FBS football schools only) Clemson was a large outlier from B1G schools (not named Nebraska) at #66.

If you look at the AAU rankings that were provided to UNL, Clemson was down at #123. Behind such academic powerhouses as Kansas St, Mississippi (Goddamn) State, West Virginia, Washington State & Nevada Reno.

Nebraska was the lowest ranked AAU school at #109. There was only one other AAU member institution below #100 (an unnamed school at #105).

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Remember when there was a controversy a few years ago about schools 'gaming the system' to appear better on the USN&WR list?

Guess who the #1 culprit was.

Notre Dame?

 

[kujirakira]

Remember when there was a controversy a few years ago about schools 'gaming the system' to appear better on the USN&WR list?

Guess who the #1 culprit was.

On my composite list Clemson was a large outlier from B1G schools (not named Nebraska) at #66.

If you look at the AAU rankings that were provided to UNL, Clemson was down at #123. Behind such academic powerhouses as Kansas St, Mississippi (Goddamn) State, West Virginia, Washington State & Nevada Reno.

Nebraska was the lowest ranked AAU school at #109. There was only one other AAU member institution below #100 (an unnamed school at #105).

And generally known to be Syracuse... who left w/o a fight after they saw Nebraska get booted.

 

[Woody1968]

Oklahoma 2010: 3.75 m
1990: 3.15 m
19 percent increase

Texas2010: 25.15 m
1990 17.06 m
47 percent increase

North Carolina 2010: 9.54 m
1990 6.66 m
43 percent increase

Virginia 2010: 8 m
1990 6.22 m
29 percent increase

Us 2010: 309.3 m
1990: 249.6 m
24 percent increase

Population in Oklahoma is already really small and they are growing at a less then average rate. I only looked up 4 states but selected those because uva unc duke vatech and Texas schools are potential additions. That means that people there are either not reproducing at national avg or people are leaving the state and it looks like they are moving to Texas. That's not going to make anyone money. Btn gets money from cable subscriptions. Oklahoma demographics can apply to all b12 schools but Texas ones. Future of the b10 is to grab a Texas school and then go southeast.

Hmm, Ohio is growing at a whopping 1.5% I think Oklahoma is doing pretty decent actually. It's a smaller state, population wise, but I wouldn't call it dying.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Hmm, Ohio is growing at a whopping 1.5% I think Oklahoma is doing pretty decent actually. It's a smaller state, population wise, but I wouldn't call it dying.

You're right. I'd call it dead.

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

You're right. I'd call it dead.

I hear Lawton is beautiful this time of year.