Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[Bucknut24]

No one is even sure he'll push for FSU. Just because FSU is interested doesn't mean the Big Ten is.....especially because these moves are as much (and likely moreso) about academics as they are athletics....

and I'm saying he will (IMO)


especially if FSU devises some sort of future plans that involve attaining AAU status

 

[Mike80]

and I'm saying he will (IMO)

especially if FSU devises some sort of future plans that involve attaining AAU status

It doesn't work that way and you know it.

Had Nebraska lost its AAU status before the invite went out, they wouldn't be in the Big Ten either.

 

[Bucknut24]

and I call bull, Nebraska was an athletics move

BTW, the president of FSU was a dean at Penn St, I'm sure he know full well what it will take to get into the B1G

 

[Buckeyefrankmp]

and I call bull, Nebraska was an athletics move

BTW, the president of FSU was a dean at Penn St, I'm sure he know full well what it will take to get into the B1G

Yes, become a member of the AAU.

 

[Woody1968]

and I'm saying he will (IMO)


especially if FSU devises some sort of future plans that involve attaining AAU status

It doesn't work that way and you know it.

Had Nebraska lost its AAU status before the invite went out, they wouldn't be in the Big Ten either.

and I call bull, Nebraska was an athletics move

BTW, the president of FSU was a dean at Penn St, I'm sure he know full well what it will take to get into the B1G

Yes, become a member of the AAU.

I would not be so quick to write off FSU on the basis of AAU membership alone. FSU is a very big fish in a good recruiting state state with several huge media markets for the BTN to exploit. That said, the lack of AAU membership remains a huge hurdle to them, but I don't think it is as insurmountable as I thought it was a year ago, especially if the strategy is to go into VA, NC, and Georgia, Florida would be the next obvious step. Notre Dame is not going to join the B1G.

 

[Mike80]

and I call bull, Nebraska was an athletics move

BTW, the president of FSU was a dean at Penn St, I'm sure he know full well what it will take to get into the B1G

All the more reason to not invite FSU....

 

[MaxBuck]

and I'm saying he will (IMO)

especially if FSU devises some sort of future plans that involve attaining AAU status

I have a greater chance for a night of passion with Angelina Jolie than FSU has for getting into the AAU.

 

[Woody1968]

I have a greater chance for a night of passion with Angelina Jolie than FSU has for getting into the AAU.

Oh, who hasn't had a night of passion with her at this point?

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

I would not be so quick to write off FSU on the basis of AAU membership alone. FSU is a very big fish in a good recruiting state state with several huge media markets for the BTN to exploit. That said, the lack of AAU membership remains a huge hurdle to them, but I don't think it is as insurmountable as I thought it was a year ago, especially if the strategy is to go into VA, NC, and Georgia, Florida would be the next obvious step. Notre Dame is not going to join the B1G.

Nor should we want them. They would be an enormous cancer and disruption within the conference, particularly if we brought in any universities with which they have a history such as BC, FSU or Pitt (none of whom are likely, I know) and could (would!) attempt to play against the middle.

It's going to be difficult enough assimilating the new schools into a cohesive collection of universities buying into the Big Ten culture of one-for-all. Can you imagine doing this with a sociopathic, manipulative, take but never give institution like ND in the mix. Let them become a problem for the Big12 and Texas.

 

[zincfinger]

The expansion is as much about research money as it is about TV money. I do not know if UVA joining the B1G would directly bring in more money to OSU or not.

It wouldn't.

By bringing UVA into the CIC, OSU can use UVA's assets and research to further its own research projects.

OSU can use UVa's assets if UVa joins the CIC (it's not clear what you mean by using UVa's research), but this is of minimal importance for at least two reasons. First, OSU researchers can already use UVa research assets, if they ask, without UVa joining the CIC. And it's no different at CIC member institutions. It's not like an OSU researcher can show up at MSU and say, "Hey, everyone get out of my way. I'm using the particle accelerator today." And second, researchers at OSU really don't need to use UVa research assets. By "assets" I mean equipment and supplies. There are very few situations where an OSU researcher would need to use a UVa asset, because the equipment at issue wasn't available on the OSU campus.

 

[Buckeyefrankmp]

It wouldn't.

OSU can use UVa's assets if UVa joins the CIC (it's not clear what you mean by using UVa's research), but this is of minimal importance for at least two reasons. First, OSU researchers can already use UVa research assets, if they ask, without UVa joining the CIC. And it's no different at CIC member institutions. It's not like an OSU researcher can show up at MSU and say, "Hey, everyone get out of my way. I'm using the particle accelerator today." And second, researchers at OSU really don't need to use UVa research assets. By "assets" I mean equipment and supplies. There are very few situations where an OSU researcher would need to use a UVa asset, because the equipment at issue wasn't available on the OSU campus.

It's not like an OSU researcher can show up at MSU and say, "Hey, everyone get out of my way. I'm using the particle accelerator today."

I really did not think that is how it worked.

http://www.cic.net/about-cic

For more than half a century, these world-class research institutions have advanced their academic missions, generated unique opportunities for students and faculty, and served the common good by sharing expertise, leveraging campus resources, and collaborating on innovative programs.

Relationships of trust and respect between CIC colleges and departments are keys to successful partnerships. Faculty from similar CIC departments often meet via phone, videoconference, or while attending professional conferences to share experiences and identify opportunities to work together. Over time, these informal academic networks have fostered successful activities in engineering, nursing, political science, women's studies, Asian American Studies, American Indian Studies, and several other disciplines.

I don't know how often non CIC members collaborate with CIC members on different programs, share expertise, campus resources or CIC collaborative projects like the HathiTrust Digital Repository or Reciprocal Library Borrowing. Does this happen often? I really don't know.

I guess what I meant by using UVA's research was more of a collaborative effort between the CIC members like with the Traumatic Brain Injury Research Collaboration.

 

[Mike80]

All in all, I still don't see much happening until the Maryland case is resolved....

 

[Muck]

Tech, Johnson peeved by schedule

The ACC football schedule released Monday has led Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson and athletic department officials to believe they've again drawn the short straw. That conclusion may have repercussions for Tech's future participation in the league's Thursday night package.

Johnson's frustrations with the schedule were many, some of which may have been out of the league's hands. But an open date for the second week of the season, a Thursday night game against archrival Virginia Tech with five days' rest, an unfilled request to have an open date after the Oct. 12 BYU game and four consecutive Coastal Division games top the list.

"I don't know that they set about to do anything deliberate," Johnson said. "I just don't think they tried to make it fair."

Johnson and associate athletic director Ryan Bamford, Tech's primary scheduling contact, voiced their frustrations with league officials Monday. While noting that "none of us are in love with playing Thursday night games," Bamford pointed out that the school has repeatedly been willing to host them despite their unpopularity among some Tech fans and the logistical challenges involved in staging them. At the behest of the league and ESPN, Tech also rearranged its schedule last year to play Virginia Tech in a nationally-televised Labor Day game.

While the games do offer national exposure, given the frustrations with the schedule for 2013 and years past, "I don't know how much we?re going to continue to take in that regard" Bamford said.


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[VBSJ]

I you would like to see a supremely delusional (or desperate) fanbase, see theories, comments or stories by Connecticut fans. I don't know about Cincinnati fans, but I guess I could understand UConn fans grasping at anything.

Didn't realize -- outside of Temple -- the entire Big East weren't in BCS conferences when the BCS started in 1998.

 

[Mike80]

Tech, Johnson peeved by schedule

Come on over to the light guys.....