Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[CincyInterloper]

But what about Cincinnati?

Barring divine intervention, I think we are headed for a Big East/ACC leftovers conference. It will have good basketball and mediocre football. Hopefully, we'll regain some geographic sanity in the process. Syracuse and Pitt could essentially end up back in the Big East because those two will probably be left behind in the ACC after the B1G, SEC and B12 take the best football schools.

 

[HorseshoeFetish]

The good thing with UVa is they will be even cooler than 5 popped collar cool.

Um doesn't that belong in the Shane Morris thread?

 

[PlanetFrnd]

Do you really want to have an B1G (East Division) of

Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Penn State
Maryland
UNC
UVa
BC

I don't like BC, but I would be fine with a division of large, flagship universities, many with world-class research university academics.

 

[rampageripster]

Do you really want to have an B1G (East Division) of

Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Penn State
Maryland
UNC
UVa
BC

Get the idea of divisions out of your head cause 8 team divisions wont work. We will probably see 4 pods of 4 teams. Take the top two pod champs and there is ypur championship game. You play the three in your pod, a protected crossover and then a team from each pod on a rotating basis. Therefore it eould be a max 4 years between conf matchups.

this system would work perfect here:
East: UNC, UVA, Duke, MD/GT
Mid-East: PSU, tOSU, IU, PU
Midwest: UM, MSU, UI, NW
West: UW, Minn, Iowa, Neb

These would work perfectly. Keep many rivalries together, provide fans at least one very managable roadtrip, plus the opportunoty for a lot of FANTASTIC champ hames are onthe table

 

[OSU_D/]

East: UNC, UVA, Duke, MD/GT
Mid-East: PSU, tOSU, IU, PU
Midwest: UM, MSU, UI, NW
West: UW, Minn, Iowa, Neb

I would made one small change. I would love to drop Duke and add GT... but to get UNC and UVA I'd take Duke.

East: UNC, UVA, MD, GT
Mid-East: PSU, tOSU, IU, PU
Midwest: UM, MSU, UI, NW
West: UW, Minn, Iowa, Neb

 

[WaitingforKickoff]

If you think about it, the easiest way to implement a playoff system is to have two mega conferences, each composed of two divisions, with the conference title games essentially becoming the semi-finals and the title game matching up the champs of the two conferences. Sorta like the NL and the AL.

Conference expansions and implosions aren't the ultimate end-game here. If teams decide to take the catalytic steps to join conferences that aren't in their traditional sphere of audience, and conferences like the B12 and the ACC start disappearing, a two mega-division scenario might be the only way where all the traditional BCS teams have a fair shot at playing for the title game. The SEC pretty much has one spot locked up in the BCS title game, and if you add Neb, ND and Texas to the B10, well, you can do the math.

Hate to quote myself from a couple of years ago, but it looks like I was right again on conference expansions leading to a playoff format.

 

[harrydangler]

I would made one small change. I would love to drop Duke and add GT... but to get UNC and UVA I'd take Duke.

I like GT a lot but Duke brings a national cache in BB that trumps anything tech brings to the table. Academics is a wash. Duke has 5 top 10 Directors Cup finishes - GT has none. I hate Duke but there's much more there when you bring them in with UNC.

 

[jwinslow]

Hate to quote myself from a couple of years ago, but it looks like I was right again on conference expansions leading to a playoff format.

Along with a lot of others in june:
http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/...her-conference-expansion-199.html#post1713128
http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/...her-conference-expansion-198.html#post1713081
http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/...her-conference-expansion-192.html#post1712637
http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/...her-conference-expansion-188.html#post1712369

others reflecting on super conference articles in april:
http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/...her-conference-expansion-142.html#post1693441
http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/...her-conference-expansion-140.html#post1693182
http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/...her-conference-expansion-126.html#post1661663

and earlier yet:
http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/...her-conference-expansion-115.html#post1659383

Hopefully you stretched first.

 

[sammyjenkis]

Pretty much... if we added those four unc/uva/gt would ne tops every year woth neb right behind them... would also open up the possibility of a B1G lax leagues men: tOSU, UM, PSU, UNC, UVA, Duke (MD?) would be formidable... as would womens (subtract UM add powerhouse NW)... we might not win tennis every year anymore either

Rampaging on the English language - I like it.

 

[jwinslow]

Rampaging on the English language - I like it.

He's a beta tester. Good thing Apple & Motorola killed the slider phone.

 

[WaitingforKickoff]

Along with a lot of others in june:
http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/...her-conference-expansion-199.html#post1713128
http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/...her-conference-expansion-198.html#post1713081
http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/...her-conference-expansion-192.html#post1712637
http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/...her-conference-expansion-188.html#post1712369

others reflecting on super conference articles in april:
http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/...her-conference-expansion-142.html#post1693441
http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/...her-conference-expansion-140.html#post1693182
http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/...her-conference-expansion-126.html#post1661663

and earlier yet:
http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/...her-conference-expansion-115.html#post1659383

Hopefully you stretched first.

thanks for taking all the fun out of it.

 

[sammyjenkis]

Get the idea of divisions out of your head cause 8 team divisions wont work. We will probably see 4 pods of 4 teams. Take the top two pod champs and there is ypur championship game. You play the three in your pod, a protected crossover and then a team from each pod on a rotating basis. Therefore it eould be a max 4 years between conf matchups.

this system would work perfect here:
East: UNC, UVA, Duke, MD/GT
Mid-East: PSU, tOSU, IU, PU
Midwest: UM, MSU, UI, NW
West: UW, Minn, Iowa, Neb

These would work perfectly. Keep many rivalries together, provide fans at least one very managable roadtrip, plus the opportunoty for a lot of FANTASTIC champ hames are onthe table

Pods would blow. Why the fuck would you want to be in a 16-team conference yet play Indiana or Northwestern every fucking year? In a four year span, players should get the opportunity to visit as many opponent stadiums as possible.

 

[jwinslow]

In a four year span, players should get the opportunity to visit as many opponent stadiums as possible.

Pods would accomplish that a lot better than divisions. What is your system?

 

[Ryan36_1]

Pods would blow. Why the [censored] would you want to be in a 16-team conference yet play Indiana or Northwestern every [censored]ing year? In a four year span, players should get the opportunity to visit as many opponent stadiums as possible.

What's the complaint here again? If you do divisions, then you are still playing same teams every year.

Only solution to the problem you stated would be to have non-permanent divisions, which, in my IMO would be just plain dumb.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Uh, what's wrong with two 8-team divisions if we expand to 16 teams? Up until this past eason we've been playing in one big 11-team division, aka the Big Ten Conference. 4-team pods would be stupid.