Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[Gatorubet]

Looks to me as though the New Big Twelve resembles nothing so much as a large tumescent penis.

"Big Dick Conference," or BDC? Could work, I guess. So long as Texas is in charge.

Nutsack and Shaft Divisions?

 

[Buckeyefrankmp]

UC is in deep financial doo doo, after recklessly spending money on a football product that no one except juggalos and grillz wearers want to see. Their stadium is tiny. They can't realistically compete at an AQ level in the long run.

What he said.

 

[Oh8ch]

Looks to me as though the New Big Twelve resembles nothing so much as a large tumescent penis.

Your Rorschach results are back - and we need to talk.

 

[Zurp]

I'm pretty sure that the NCAA does not allow (yet) conferences to have tournaments more than the 1 championship game. Of course, if conferences start going to 16 or more teams, they may start to allow it.

 

[Muck]

I'm pretty sure that the NCAA does not allow (yet) conferences to have tournaments more than the 1 championship game. Of course, if conferences start going to 16 or more teams, they may start to allow it.

Ahem...

FWIW the NCAA would have to make a rule change for that to be possible. Currently there is no provision for intra conference tournament games outside of a championship. I don't know if there would be enough support for that to be allowed or not.

 

[PlanetFrnd]

Because this is an ESPiN link I've pasted the article so others do not have to patronize the site. Mods, do what you will, but I wash my hands of any quote-shortening. This story is full of hilarity.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7154023/oklahoma-sooners-confused-talks-big-12-network

Wednesday, October 26, 2011
Network proposal confuses Oklahoma

LAWTON, Okla. -- Oklahoma officials say they don't understand how a proposed Big 12 Network could work considering that Texas already has an independent channel and the Sooners are working on one of their own.

University president David Boren told The Associated Press on Wednesday that Oklahoma still plans to form its own network and that he was surprised the Big 12 went public with the consideration of a conference network. The same third-tier television rights control what would be aired on either a school's channel or a conference channel.

Oklahoma intends to keep those rights -- just as Texas has in creating its Longhorn Network through a 20-year, $300 million deal with ESPN.

So how could the Big 12 form a network without its two most powerful programs?

"I don't know because I don't see quite how the conference network would work," Boren told the AP. "I'm confused by that myself."

Athletic director Joe Castiglione said he, too, was caught off-guard when the Big 12 announced Monday that there were discussions by the league's board of directors about creating a "conference dedicated TV network."

"I really don't have the information to support why they made that statement," Castiglione said, noting that athletic directors weren't part of the board meeting. "It has not been broached, or at least not recently."

"Maybe they're trying to build a consensus or excitement and anticipation," he added. "I don't know."

If recent developments in the Big 12 have shown anything, it's that the conference -- which has had its membership in flux for the past year and a half -- still seems to be in a state of confusion.

A U.S. senator from West Virginia issued a statement Wednesday suggesting an investigation might be necessary after the Mountaineers believed they had been extended an invitation to join the Big 12, only to find out that wasn't the case and Louisville might instead be targeted.

Cont'd ...

 

[jlb1705]

A U.S. senator from West Virginia issued a statement Wednesday suggesting an investigation might be necessary after the Mountaineers believed they had been extended an invitation to join the Big 12, only to find out that wasn't the case and Louisville might instead be targeted.

 

[knapplc]

Well, a conference network is to offset the Longhorn Network. But I saw the Sooners, I saw where they said they'd do their own network. I don't know how this thing is going to turn out.

Let me help you out with that, T. Boone....

 

[stowfan]

The latest from the ABJ



http://www.ohio.com/sports/rutgers-tv-ratings-put-it-back-on-big-ten-radar-1.242219

 

[CleveBucks]

Friday night, the Rutgers-Louisville game on ESPN2 drew twice the number of New York City viewers as Syracuse’s upset of West Virginia, which ESPN televised.

Interesting...

 

[PlanetFrnd]

Interesting...

6 viewers is twice as many as 3.... just sayin'

 

[Buckeyefrankmp]

Interesting...

And Friday night, the Rutgers-Louisville game on ESPN2 drew twice the number of New York City viewers as Syracuse?s upset of West Virginia, which ESPN televised.

This can't be true. I thought nobody in New York City watches college football, let alone Rutgers football. There must be a large Louisville alumni base in NYC.

 

[Muck]

This can't be true. I thought nobody in New York City watches college football, let alone Rutgers football. There must be a large Louisville alumni base in NYC.

The game drew a 1.45 share.

Oklahoma vs Texas Tech drew a 2.2 nationally...and that is the lowest EVER ABC Sat night game (going back to 06).

 

[BrutusBobcat]

FWIW the NCAA would have to make a rule change for that to be possible. Currently there is no provision for intra conference tournament games outside of a championship. I don't know if there would be enough support for that to be allowed or not.

Well, right off the bat they'd have 32 votes in favor.

If the MAC, the WAC and the Sun Belt decided to do the same, they might have a majority of D1A schools on board. I'm not sure how those decisions are made, but it would certainly be interesting.

 

[cincibuck]

Other than simply being in the right place (on earth) at the right time (when the big 12 is in crisis mode), what has Cincy done to deserve a real conference?

What have Indiana, Baylor, Wake Forest, Vanderbilt done to deserve a conference... They've fielded teams, paid their dues and kept their mouths shut when the conference big guys were talking.

UC has spent years wandering about -- doing everything they could to avoid the obvious -- join the MAC. Landing in the Big East was a real coup after Conference USA and they've drawn well in basketball and now football when Louisville, Pitt or a Big Ten team are in town.

They got rid of Huggins, who despite his ability to win games, was an embarrassment in terms of personal behavior and the recruiting of thugs.

Do they belong in the Big 10? Well, they'd beat up on Indiana and Minnesota and be a tough game for Northwestern and if they'd caught the Buckeyes in week 2 we might all be wearing egg on our face. Academically it depends on what school -- they had a real issue with nepotism -- hiring people who had done all of their academic work at UC BS, MA, PHD and then added on the faculty -- into the 80s. North Central put some real heat on them to stop the practice. Their engineering program pioneered co-op education and has long had a strong rep, Design Architecture and Art Program is a world leader, Cincinnati Conservatory of Music is a top rated music school and the medical college used to be ranked second in Ohio behind Case - Western, but I understand the OSU has overtaken them in recent years. With GE and P&G's help they could become a major research university, but right now they're so so.

I have sympathy for them -- to a degree -- they're a distinct cut above the MAC schools in many ways both academically and athletically. For their early years they were a city run school, outside the Ohio Higher Ed system and funding. They aren't helped by the presence of semi-professional football and baseball teams in the same town. They are limited by this town's desire to be the capital of the mythical 51st state, Tri-State and not a part of Ohio.