Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[knapplc]

Our new 'Husker in laws learn fast.

Just welcome your new Husker Overlords and everything will be all right.

 

[Buckeye Maniac]

Just welcome your new Husker Overlords and everything will be all right.

Shouldn't overlords be better than 0-2 against their peons

 

[bassbuckeye07]

You also have to follow the population trends.

In 50 years, there will probably be more truck drivers in the US than Catholics.

What does this mean?

 

[exhawg]

What does this mean?

Holy war?

 

[FCollinsBuckeye]

What does this mean?

Boise State is 'Truck Driver U'.

Seriously.

BOISE STATE TRUCKING SCHOOL GRADUATES NOMINATED FOR AWARDS​

The Idaho Center for Professional Truck Driving is administered by Boise State�s Selland College of Applied Technology.

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[PlanetFrnd]

Why the B1G might get twice as much as the Pac12? It's all about ratings, and the B1G are rating goldmines (rabid fan base + lots of them). The Pac12, not so much. So historically, the B1G probably have come close to doubling their TV contracts in the past.

Throw in the current market with TV deals. The networks have realized in the DVR age that live programming is golden and it seems like they are wanting to pay for it. Just imagine what that will look like in 5 years.

Another reason is the B1G will be one tough negotiation which will mean the price will go up. ABC/ESPN will not want to lose a mainstay in their programming and there will be other networks wanting to steal that away. Mainly Fox, and Fox is probably the big competitor, especially being partners on BTN and they can see the money flowing through that network. And Delany will make them pay through the nose, because by then he will have a proven network with the BTN that can scare up the bidding even higher.

Will it be double the PAC12 deal? I recall some analysts when the PAC12 deal was done that asked if the B1G could double that deal when their right fees came up, and some of them said it could be close.

And why care about the Longhorn Network, Notre Dame's deal and the Pac12 network? Well, if Notre Dame & Texas are targets, you want to know their situation better. Right now they are hard to crack, but in 5 years they might be ripe for the picking. And you have to watch what the Pac12 network does because they are direct competition to get Texas. Because if the Pac12 Network does well, the monetary difference might not be big enough for Texas to go to the B1G.

So basically while the B1G might dwarf everyone else in money, if the Longhorn network works how Texas is dreaming it can be, that money will be big enough not to need to go to the B1G, and if Notre Dame gets a big boost in contract money, it might not need the B1G either, or allow them to go to the ACC.

It's not about ratings, its about total subscribers and getting into as many homes as possible on the "standard" package. More homes/subscribers === more money. Ratings are for networks when they're deciding to run with a pilot or not.

The B1G covers a number of high-population states with strong markets. It get's a certain $/subscriber (I though I read $0.70, but not positive). That number is not based on ratings. If it gets carried in the NYC market or in Texas, that would be huge for conference revenues.

The reason the LHN isn't carried many places is that it has limited appeal in the eyes of cable/satelite providers. The Pac used to be limited to one big state, and three very little states... even the SEC has limits given the populations of its footprint. Wonder why the ACC is using this as an opportunity to connect Massachusetts to Maryland?

The B1G network will have much more leverage in its next negotiation if it already has strong footprint expanding schools like UT or ND... They've done a great job with the network, but it has natural limits that will not be overcome without expansion.

 

[Muck]

Helpful.

How could I have been much clearer than the pic?

That would make him a subway alum in most places. In Nebraska, I think they're called "Covered Wagon Alums"

That's Oklahoma. In Nebraska it's Massey Ferguson Alums.

Holy war?

 

[bassbuckeye07]

Holy war?

Truck Drivers v. Catholics? Why would God allow this?

 

[knapplc]

This OU 'Source' is colossally stupid for talking right now

SOURCE: OU's preferred reformed Big 12 all along
STAYING PUT ? On Monday it appeared Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were headed to the Pac-12. But an OU source said they called Tuesday morning to say they would not apply for membership. The story of why they didn't go is one of what didn't change rather than what did.

Oklahoma and Oklahoma State seemed headed to the Pac-12 on Monday.

By Tuesday night, their westward journey was halted before it got started.

What happened?

A high-ranking source from OU told The Oklahoman on Wednesday that both schools have actually been working behind the scenes to sell Big 12 reform to other schools in the conference.

"But frankly, we wanted the impression out there that we might go to the Pac-12 because that gave us some leverage," the source said. "We were using that as leverage to say, "Hey, you want us to stay" Let's have some of these reforms.'"

Gaining leverage by bluffing is only a success if you don't tell the other guy you're bluffing, you idiot.

You gotta wonder how "off the record" this conversation was intended to be. The reporter writing this is the same Jenni Carlson who prompted the "I'M A MAN!! I'M FORTY!!!" rant from Mike Gundy back in the day. She covers the Cowboys back in Oklahoma City for NewsOK. Could this have been an intentional submarine job on her part?

You just have to wonder why a source in the know would divulge something like this prior to Thursday's meeting.

 

[Muck]

It's not about ratings, its about total subscribers and getting into as many homes as possible on the "standard" package. More homes/subscribers === more money. Ratings are for networks when they're deciding to run with a pilot or not.

Ratings are also for networks when they want to sell advertising.

It's a combination of both ratings & subscribers within the footprint (and other factors).

Nebraska didn't get invited because of their exploding population base.

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.../cont/...

In three years since the network launched, Big Ten Network president Mark Silverman said the venture is doing better than even he had predicted.

The network's advertising revenues have increased from $14.9 million in 2008, its first full year of existence, to a predicted $43.1 million in 2011, according to SNL Kagan, a division of financial information firm SNL Financial that specializes in media and communications. The network also earns a lot of money from negotiated carriage fees it charges cable and satellite providers.

The network still has incredible earning potential.

.../cont/...

 

[knapplc]

Nebraska didn't get invited because of their exploding population base.

Shows what you know. Nebraska has grown by 6.7% over the past ten years, only 3% lower than the national average. That's a C- baby! W00t!

 

[MaxBuck]

Shows what you know. Nebraska has grown by 6.7% over the past ten years, only 3% lower than the national average. That's a C- baby! W00t!

Is there something about tilling the soil that makes you people forget how to fuck?

 

[Piney]

It's not about ratings, its about total subscribers and getting into as many homes as possible on the "standard" package. More homes/subscribers === more money. Ratings are for networks when they're deciding to run with a pilot or not.

The B1G covers a number of high-population states with strong markets. It get's a certain $/subscriber (I though I read $0.70, but not positive). That number is not based on ratings. If it gets carried in the NYC market or in Texas, that would be huge for conference revenues.

The reason the LHN isn't carried many places is that it has limited appeal in the eyes of cable/satelite providers. The Pac used to be limited to one big state, and three very little states... even the SEC has limits given the populations of its footprint. Wonder why the ACC is using this as an opportunity to connect Massachusetts to Maryland?

The B1G network will have much more leverage in its next negotiation if it already has strong footprint expanding schools like UT or ND... They've done a great job with the network, but it has natural limits that will not be overcome without expansion.

Yes, ratings matter to networks, like the networks that will be bidding on the next B1G TV rights package. THAT is where I am talking about doubling the PAC12 $3 Billion dollar deal. Because the $3 billion they are getting is from Fox/ESPN for their TV rights. Not from the Pac12 Network.

And yes, I thought I was saying due to the BTN they can leverage that to make the networks pay through the nose to get those Tier 1/2 rights like they have now. Which is why I was saying doubling the Pac12 deal would be conservative in my eyes.

 

[Muck]

Jim Boeheim blames Syracuse's departure from Big East on Notre Dame and conference leadership

Syracuse University basketball coach Jim Boeheim doesn?t usually mince his words.

On Tuesday, the Hall of Fame coach talked about Syracuse?s impending departure from the Big East. He pointed a finger at Notre Dame?s president, who despite the fact that Notre Dame has its own television contract and isn?t a member of the Big East?s football conference, advocated walking away from a $1 billion deal with ESPN earlier this week.

.../snip/...

And in his most pointed words, Boeheim chastised Big East commissioner
John Marinatto, who told the New York Times that the Big East would force Syracuse and Pittsburgh to remain in the league for 27 months, according to the league?s by-laws.

?I think that speaks to the problem in our league,?? Boeheim said. ?That?s foolish. He should be thinking about how he can save the Big East, not keep Syracuse and Pitt hostage. The best way to save the Big East is to get out and get a couple teams to come in. Because we?re gone. He needs to concentrate on getting somebody to replace us.??​

.../snip/...

What are you looking forward to with the move to the ACC?

"It's a great challenge. To quote me accurately, which nobody has seemed to want to do. I'm obviously disappointed that the Big East broke up. But it's not the Big East it used to be either. It's 17 going to 20 teams. I never said I'm unhappy about going to the ACC. There was a headline or something. I never said I'm unhappy about going to the ACC. I'm unhappy the Big East broke up. That's a completely different thing than saying I'm unhappy about going to the ACC. I think it's a great league. I think we can benefit from being in the ACC. It'?s a great basketball league. If anything, it helps our recruiting. With the state the Big East has been in and the fact that certain schools and Notre Dame's one of them that voted down the football contract, we'd probably be in the Big East right now if it wasn't for that. But now they're crying about us leaving. They shouldn't have even voted on the football contract because they're not even in it?" ​

To clarify, youre talking about Notre Dames Father Jenkins being on the committee.

?Yeah. I dont know why that is. Why would he have a say on the football contract when they dont participate in it? If they really wanted to keep the Big East together they would have come in in football, then we wouldn?t be talking about this. ​

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Ouch.

 

[Muck]

CBSSports

STORRS, Conn. -- Multiple officials at Connecticut say the school has not committed to staying in the Big East Conference and continues to look at other conference options.

The officials, who asked that their names not be used because of the sensitive nature of the negotiations, denied that Connecticut and Rutgers agreed to stay in the conference during a three-hour meeting among Big East football members on Monday.

Commissioner John Marianatto emerged from that meeting to say that all the members had "pledged to each other that they are committed to move forward together."

Connecticut President Susan Herbst issued a statement Tuesday thanking fans for their patience and reiterated that the school "will always do what is in the best interests for the University of Connecticut."