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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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exhawg;1996161; said:
I wonder if TCU would rethink the move to the Big East if the B12 called? If I were the B12 I'd go after TCU, Boise, Nevada, and BYU to get back to 12 assuming A&M and Mizz bolt to the SEC.
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Saw something on my twitter feed last night, reported that a Big 12 official said, if the Big 12 can survive, league needs to get Texas to change mind on letting TCU in.

The interesting thing is what concessions the schools force Texas into doing to keep the Big 12 together.

This ain't over... should be more expansion fun in the future.
 
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Piney;1996242; said:
Saw something on my twitter feed last night, reported that a Big 12 official said, if the Big 12 can survive, league needs to get Texas to change mind on letting TCU in.

The interesting thing is what concessions the schools force Texas into doing to keep the Big 12 together.

This ain't over... should be more expansion fun in the future.
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All of this has shown me that UT has to be the worst business partner conceivable.
 
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The Pac-12 presidents felt the efforts of NCAA president Mark Emmert to reach out and warn against the possible negative ramifications of super-conferences was effective, a source told ESPN's Joe Schad.
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It figures. Emmert is a fucking tool. Why is it any of his got-dam business?

Oh, that's right. The super-conferences would be able to derail Emmert's own little personal gravy train.

I'm happy with the outcome, but remain disgusted with this leech.
 
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MaxBuck;1996264; said:
It figures. Emmert is a fucking tool. Why is it any of his got-dam business?

Oh, that's right. The super-conferences would be able to derail Emmert's own little personal gravy train.

I'm happy with the outcome, but remain disgusted with this leech.
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If he's able to put a stop to it, then I'm all for him butting in. I'm of the IMO that Super Conferences are a terrible idea, and anything that stops them is good by me.
 
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Woody1968;1996280; said:
1. Too many deserving programs left out. - which are "deserving" programs?
2. Destruction of historical rivalries. not necessarily, and I only care about one
3. No geographic sense. remember, people fly airplanes now and have satelite TV
4. Not enough home runs to justify. could have a point here... I dont want crap schools just for the sake of hitting a number
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Buckeye Maniac;1996282; said:
It turns college football into a pseudo pro league. And I don't know about you, but I loathe the NFL. I don't want college football to look anything like the NFL.
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Except for pay, its likely too late... perhaps always has been "too late"

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/10/the-shame-of-college-sports/8643/
 
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Glad to hear the PAC 12 announcement that they are not going to expand. At least not this week. Hopefully, they stay at 12 and the B1G stays there, too. Nebraska was a good add but that's enough for me.

If Texas and/or Notre Dame knocked on our door I'd listen, but I doubt either is going to happen in the near future.

:bigten:

We need the new B1G logo. :wink2:
 
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BusNative;1996279; said:
Don't understand the downside of superconferences when the B1G stands to survive/gain...
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It's called timing. The timing just isn't right at this moment. In the B1G's case, this is a lifelong commitment.

There are way too many question marks at this time that make the targets that the B1G craves too hard to get at the moment. But, with time things may/will open up.

#1 - Does the Longhorn network work? Right now it is a bust. Besides a few small outlets, who even gets the network let alone watches it. If ESPN keeps demanding high fees and keeps striking out, how quickly does ESPN try to buyout the contract or re-negotiate it? OR, maybe it becomes a huge revenue source. Right now Texas thinks it will be a boom, but if it becomes a bust, they might be more willing to play ball.

#2 - How much bigger does BTN become? Face it, the BTN is still growing and as it gets bigger, it will make the B1G that much favorable of a destination.

#3 - How does the Pac12 Network do? While they own 100% of the network versus BTN owning 49/51%, they also don't have a rabid fan base like the BTN does, so ratings/cable fees may be lower. Plus owning 100% of the network means startup costs could be staggering. Does it start turning a profit as quickly as BTN? How high is the ceiling? If it turns a profit quickly and with 100% ownership starts giving them crazy money, then they have a decided edge in the expansion game. BUT, I just have a feeling since they have 100% ownership PLUS a less rabid fan base, they may have tougher sledding. Afterall, IF Texas is a prime candidate, the Pac12 is the B1G biggest competitor for them.

#4 - NBC/Notre Dame TV Deal. So how much does NBC pay a Notre Dame that can barely win 7 games a year? Do their ratings keep going down? Or does NBC (or maybe another network) ponies up money to keep the party going?

#5 - The wildcard... The B1G TV Contract Negotiation. If the Pac12 is worth $3billion over 12 years, how much is the Big10 worth??? The B1G has the 3 most popular teams, biggest fan bases and combination of huge media markets and population. The contract is up in 4-5 years. How big can this contract get? Safe to just double the Pac12 deal? And that is just by standing pat. Heck, in 4-5 years what does TV look like? Do we even need to sell these rights to ABC/ESPN. Or some combination like only selling 2 games a week to ABC/ESPN (or Fox/CBS/NBC whoever) and then add more games to an expanded BTN?

Think of this, all these recent TV deals finally caught up to the B1G contract they signed back in 2006? We are not just talking about a ton of money... we are talking about a shitload of money... heck, we are talking about being able to buy and sell every other college out there type of money.

What if the B1G waits til 2016 to expand... AFTER the new TV deal is signed that basically pays the B1G twice as much as anyone else gets? While everyone is in the $20 million per year range, the B1G gets $40 million per year?

That gives the B1G the upperhand on everything. Right now it seems like everyone is making similar money with all the new contracts. While I am sure Delany is painting this picture now telling the teams he wants how much money the B1G will be rolling with in 5 years... that is still 5 years away. While you can sell on what will happen, you have better leverage the day after that new TV rights deal is signed and you can show them proof that they can double their TV money by going to the B1G.
 
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Piney;1996332; said:
It's called timing. The timing just isn't right at this moment. In the B1G's case, this is a lifelong commitment.

There are way too many question marks at this time that make the targets that the B1G craves too hard to get at the moment. But, with time things may/will open up.
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This is how I feel as well. The timing isn't right for a lot of reasons. I think some of the tweener schools have a chance at becoming national brands if you give them another decade or two of success. What will it mean for college football if Boise State plays for and wins a national championship this year? Only time will tell. But this is the kind of thing that I think major conferences are trying to stave off. They want to protect their brands long term. To do that, you have to prevent the little guys from stealing some of your pie.
 
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kn1f3party;1996346; said:
This is how I feel as well. The timing isn't right for a lot of reasons. I think some of the tweener schools have a chance at becoming national brands if you give them another decade or two of success. What will it mean for college football if Boise State plays for and wins a national championship this year? Only time will tell. But this is the kind of thing that I think major conferences are trying to stave off. They want to protect their brands long term. To do that, you have to prevent the little guys from stealing some of your pie.
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The biggest loser in that regard is Notre Dame, imo. For years, they portrayed themselves as giant killers to attract bandwagon fans along with an older, mainly Catholic base. Younger Catholics don't have the same alliegence to the Catholic universities as they did in 1950, and many of their old fans from Pre-1980 are dying off, so now Boise is taking the giant killer role, and people are on their bandwagon.
 
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Woody1968;1996350; said:
The biggest loser in that regard is Notre Dame, imo. For years, they portrayed themselves as giant killers to attract bandwagon fans along with an older, mainly Catholic base. Younger Catholics don't have the same alliegence to the Catholic universities as they did in 1950, and many of their old fans from Pre-1980 are dying off, so now Boise is taking the giant killer role, and people are on their bandwagon.
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It's a 'bus', not a bandwagon, at least according to that douchebag Pat Ford-e.
 
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