Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[OSU_D/]

If Missouri gets admitted to the B1G then they better be school 16 and allowed to join only to help firm up conference geography to make UT and TAMU happy to have someone decently close.

Missouri has 1 good academic program, would be toward the bottom of the B1G in academics, offers no brand name sports teams, offers a marginal athletic dept overall and offers no good new markets. Illinois already helps us get the StL market and Kansas owns half of the KC market. Missouri is NOT a keystone addition; they should only be able to join if we have UT and TAMU.

 

[MaliBuckeye]

UT and ND to the B1G? Or aTm?

WildcatReport

(who had pretty dead on connections to the B1G offices last summer)

 

[FCollinsBuckeye]

UT and ND to the B1G? Or aTm?

WildcatReport

(who had pretty dead on connections to the B1G offices last summer)

Reminds me of the good ol' days where we excitedly followed PBC's B1G expansion updates on Wildcat Report - and JT was still our coach. :ohwell:

Still, I had to chuckle one guy's sig in that thread:

 

[knapplc]

I'm ready to play Texas in football every year. We owe them for several close losses. But I cannot fathom how anyone thinks they are an appropriate fit for the Big Ten. Texas is just not like any other school, they do not play well with others, and they are going to continually try to eke out every advantage for Texas they can get.

This is not a program that fits with the Big Ten model. If we bring the Longhorns in, it is purely a cash grab.

 

[BUCKYLE]

It caved in Nebraska because the storm arrived quite a bit earlier than TWC expected. From what I understand there were dozens of calls daily either dropping TWC or threatening to drop them if they missed airing the Tennessee-Chattanooga opener on "regular" cable. From the woman I talked to when I made my call threatening to drop them, they were "buried" in those kinds of calls. So yeah, we're a bit more avid than most, and probably quite a bit more than New Yorkers.

BUT, didn't cable companies (and specifically TWC) pull shenanigans elsewhere, and eventually caved in to demand both from the public and BTN itself? I'm pretty new to the BTN so again correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the network pretty good at exerting pressure and getting their way?

I believe that within a year they'd have their way in the New York market, and those nickels would be rolling in.

But this is all academic anyway, since like most everyone else I'm unimpressed with Rutgers and/or Syracuse as expansion targets, because although they may deliver the New York TV market eventually, they're niche teams, not national brands. The Big Ten needs to look at nationally branded teams like they got with Nebraska, who can deliver eyeballs from Poughkeepsie to Albuquerque, Walla Walla to West Palm Beach. That isn't any team in the NE quadrant of the States.

From what I know, which is limited at best, the BTN is not on the basic cable tier in any market that doesn't include a B1G team. So the demand in NYC metro for Rutgers or 'Cuse would not likely be high enough for the BTN to have enough leverage to demand it. It would be like me telling you "If you don't buy this penny off me for twenty bucks...I won't sell it to you at all". If all die hard Rutgers and 'Cuse fans switched providers, TWC would not be filing bankruptcy.

 

[BUCKYLE]

I'm ready to play Texas in football every year. We owe them for several close losses. But I cannot fathom how anyone thinks they are an appropriate fit for the Big Ten. Texas is just not like any other school, they do not play well with others, and they are going to continually try to eke out every advantage for Texas they can get.

This is not a program that fits with the Big Ten model. If we bring the Longhorns in, it is purely a cash grab.

I don't think the Big Ten is stupid. If...IF Texas was asked to join, they'd be playing by the same rules as everyone else. The B1G will be just fine without them. tOSU splits its bowl/tv money with every member, including NW. So would UT.

 

[BB73]

Reminds me of the good ol' days where we excitedly followed PBC's B1G expansion updates on Wildcat Report - and JT was still our coach. :ohwell:

Still, I had to chuckle one guy's sig in that thread:

He managed to get banned for trolling on BP.

 

[bassbuckeye07]

This would be Delany's biggest fuck you to ESPN ever

 

[Basebuck]

Dallas and Austin radio reporting that A&M to SEC is done deal. To be announced the 22nd. Posting from phone so no link

 

[Sportsbuck28]

Given the shit Texas always seems to pull on their conference mates, I want no part in them in the Big Ten.

 

[korchiki]

Just a thought from left field but what kind of presence does Boston College have in the northeast? Would they be a "Bigger get" than Maryland, Rutgers, or Syracuse?

Again just thinking outside the box...

 

[bassbuckeye07]

Given the shit Texas always seems to pull on their conference mates, I want no part in them in the Big Ten.

This was the plan from the beginning.......the "tech problem" is solved

 

[Woody1968]

Just a thought from left field but what kind of presence does Boston College have in the northeast? Would they be a "Bigger get" than Maryland, Rutgers, or Syracuse?

Again just thinking outside the box...

Boston College, UConn, Rutgers and Syracuse have followings in Mass., Conn., New Jersey, and New York respectively. Boston College is mainly popular in, well, Boston. Maryland has a large following in DC and Baltimore, but outside of Maryland/DC, not really. The most popular team in NYC is either Syracuse (in basketball, it is the 'Cuse no contest) or Penn State, followed by Notre Dame. tOSU and scUM are also fairly popular. There is no school that commands the entire attention of the Northeast.

 

[MUBuck]

And is BTN on Comcast?

Yes, thank God.

 

[Buckeyefrankmp]

If NoD joined, wouldn't that open the door for the B1G to NBC? And is BTN on Comcast?

I don't know how many years the NBC contract has left on it. My guess is that the B1G would allow the ND to stay with NBC until the contract runs out and grab every ND away game.