Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[MaxBuck]

Hey. Crackers for years have named their daughters "Tiffany" without having any hope of being able to afford anything other than a watch battery there.

Stupid is stupid, and it's colorblind.

 

[Buckeyefrankmp]

I don't think the BigTen would've 'rescued' them in that scenerio. Delany still needs a linchpin in the BigXII 2.0.

Delany might have felt that taking Mizzu would have destroyed that conference sending the teams to the Pac-10. It's better for the Big-10 to have a weakened Big-12 than a superconference Pac-10.

 

[brutus2002]

Mizzou adds jack and shit to the B10...really what does it add. It add mediocrity. Nebraska, Texas, and ND were the only candidates that added the entire package. I think if we go to 16 teams in the future we should grab Boston College, Notre Dame, Pitt, and Syracuse...Thats one badass conference in BBall and everyone of those team have a football tradition no matter how bad they have fallen right now. They all fit academically as well.

 

[PlanetFrnd]

Mizzou adds jack and shit to the B10...really what does it add.

St. Louis and KC... you and others can debate whether or not that part of the I-70 corridor is shit, jack or otherwise. I'm abstaining.

 

[Woody1968]

[quote='BusNative;171799;1]St. Louis and KC... you and others can debate whether or not that part of the I-70 corridor is shit, jack or otherwise. I'm abstaining.[/quote]

I would guess that Kansas would have provided us with a significant share in those markets as well, plus a better basketball program.

 

[jwinslow]

I would guess that Kansas would have provided us with a significant share in those markets as well, plus a better basketball program.

Not really. It's 5 hours from Lawrence to St. Louis & they don't have a football following.

It's 2 hr 10 min from Columbia to both of those markets.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

The best postmortem on the week's events comes out of Nebraska.

The ?Texas problem? is never going away. Not for the Big 12, not for Beebe - who will try to jump ship at the first sign of shore - and, perhaps worst of all, not for Texas, whose appetite is insatiable and antithetical, frankly, to good sense. The Horns? reaction to the mere prospect of realignment was both childish and hypocritical, an impulse of jealousy and base greed. Think Jett Rink. Or Hud.

So Nebraska needs to walk away. No regrets.

And in a decade, you?ll see why. NU will be in a coffee shop talking research with its new friends. The Big 12 will be in another barroom brawl. Texas will be standing on a table, looking to dive into the scrum, a broken bottle in one hoof, a money clip in another.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

 

[matcar]

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

..wheels on the bus go round and round...

 

[red in colorado]

I think the same now as I did when I watched the game live. Bo should not be complaining about the officials, he should instead be out on a football field with his place kicker making the kid run gassers until next September for kicking off out of bounds. Colt McCoy is good enough on his own. You don't need to spot him an extra 20 to 25 yards.

There have bee a LOT of heated debates on this issue at each and every Husker board you visit. Most of as more mature participants realise that yeah, technically putting the 1 second back on the clock was correct but what is infuriating is the inconsistency this particular technicality is enforced. Just a few years ago we were trying to kick a feild goal to end the half against Colorado and the replay of the previous play clearly showed 3 seconds left on the clock when the wistle blew ending that play but the officials let those three seconds run off and denied us the opportunity to kick the ball. Where was replay to put those three seconds back on?

Last years CCG against Texas the fault is ours for the botched kickoff followed by a personal foul which quickly put Texas in a position to kick the game winner.
As for Adi Kunalic, our kicker, he led the nation in touchbacks and pinning opponents inside the twenty with his leg and that particular kick was an anomaly. A kick which he a few days later admitted he tried to hard blast it through the endzone instead of just normally kicking the ball which resulted in the miss hit. Had we not followed that botched kickoff with a personal foul on the very next play we would have been in position to win.

 

[Oh8ch]

Message boards leave an amazing audit trail.

Back when RR was still with WVU he was offered and was rumored to have accepted the Alabama job. Then a few days later turned it down and reaffirmed his undying love for the Mountaineers.

It was so much fun reading about how wonderful this man was from folks who two days before had said he was dead to them.


Last week the PAC 16 was the greatest conference in the history of football. This was a wonderful move that was brilliantly engineered by the grand University of Texas.

Well, not really.

It is the reconstituted Big XII that rules the roost. They have "trimmed the fat" and "proven their allegiance". Increased per team TV revenue that made no sense in the PAC is now suddenly available in the smaller, less stable, no-CCG, Huskerless Big XII.

And just when is Nebraska going to pay the penalty for abandoning the conference - those back-stabbing money-grubbers?

 

[Oh8ch]

And here is the "whole truth" from Chip Davis:

Orangebloods.com - How the Big 12 came back to life

 

[cincibuck]

I am going to take off the scarlet colored glasses for a moment. Its seems like most folks on this thread have no problem with the Big 10 playing cutthroat in terms of forcing the hands of teams (ND, Texas, etc) to join the conference in order to increase the $, power and prestige of the Big 10. So why get pissy when Texas does the same in their own self-interest??

I wanted Texas as much as anyone but I am not going to gripe about their actions in their own self-interest.

I don't disagree with your sentiments, but it seemed to me that the Big 10 kept all discussion private until they were all but forced to speak/leak. In as much as it was a business deal designed to be of benefit to both parties it still seems to me that Texas was duplicitous and that Delany was 'had.'

The Big Ten comes away with a fourth team to balance out their three top football schools, and one with a notable academic reputation, but they gain a negligible new TV market.

Maybe I'm naive, but shouldn't Delany have known that state politics was going to get involved? Shouldn't he have floated a deal in such a way as to be left with deniability if things such as Baylor/T Tech/Aggies and the Pac 10 arose?

I compare this to a Wall Street merger in which details aren't known until they have to be and if people with no more scruples than Wall Street possess can play fair why can't universities?

 

[cincibuck]

Not really. It's 5 hours from Lawrence to St. Louis & they don't have a football following.

It's 2 hr 10 min from Columbia to both of those markets.

It's more like five light years from Lawrence to Kansas City, let alone St. Louis, just ask Dorothy and Toto. Been there, seen that.

 

[Piney]

And here is the "whole truth" from Chip Davis:

Orangebloods.com - How the Big 12 came back to life

So he basically admits he was being used by the Texas admin... nice...