Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[OSU_D/]

Funny how they don't really care if Missouri leaves for the BIG 10, it's all about Nebraska. Talk about not showing Missouri any love here.

Delany should note that and take CU instead!

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

My preference

 

[ScriptOhio]

My preference

Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri, Syracuse & is ND #16?

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri, Syracuse & is ND #16?

They are unless they want to become Fordham. If so, we take Rutgers or poach the ACC for BC or Maryland.

 

[ScriptOhio]

No matter what happens you can always count on the politicians/lawyers to try and screw it up.

... or megaconference expansion
6. The Pac-10 evolves into the Pac-16, taking Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Baylor and Colorado, effectively disbanding the Big 12.
7. The Big Ten, panicking, forces Notre Dame's hand by setting off the dissolution of the Big East (see No. 9) with the additions of the Irish, Nebraska, Missouri, Virginia and Georgia Tech, getting a variety of markets for its Big Ten Network.
8. The SEC then adds Texas A&M (which opts out of the Pac-10 move), Virginia Tech, Florida State and Miami.
9. The ACC, severely damaged by the expansion process, regroups by merging with the Big East and adding Syracuse, Pittsburgh, UConn, Louisville, West Virginia, Cincinnati, Rutgers and USF. It also adds Memphis.
10. The Mountain West, with the backing of a growing list of stuffed-shirt congressmen, files suit against the entire process.

Entire article: SN10: Preferred expansion scenarios - Matt Hayes - College Football - Sporting News

 

[Gatorubet]

No matter what happens you can always count on the ...lawyers to try and screw it up.

How else can you bill to unscrew it?

 

[Mike80]

How else can you bill to unscrew it?

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Why is there a need for a playoff? Because the SEC has one? Wait till the three loss SEC East/West team upsets the undefeated East/West team (hopefully in a re-match game they lost 42 - 7 the first time around).

Or a 2-loss team from one division beats the shit out of an undefeated team from the other division 35-7 in the conference title game, like Kansas State did to Oklahoma in the 2004 Big XII title game. You had the conference "champ" ending up with a worse conference record than the team they beat (7-2 vs 8-1). And the conference runner-up went to the national title game while the champ had to settle for the Fiesta Bowl. Conference title games don't "determine" shit...

 

[BB73]

Or a 2-loss team from one division beats the shit out of an undefeated team from the other division 35-7 in the conference title game, like Kansas State did to Oklahoma in the 2004 Big XII title game. You had the conference "champ" ending up with a worse conference record than the team they beat (7-2 vs 8-1). And the conference runner-up went to the national title game while the champ had to settle for the Fiesta Bowl. Conference title games don't "determine" shit...

Who's this n00b with over 24,000 posts?

 

[jwinslow]

Or a 2-loss team from one division beats the shit out of an undefeated team from the other division 35-7 in the conference title game, like Kansas State did to Oklahoma in the 2004 Big XII title game. You had the conference "champ" ending up with a worse conference record than the team they beat (7-2 vs 8-1). And the conference runner-up went to the national title game while the champ had to settle for the Fiesta Bowl. Conference title games don't "determine" shit...

1) The BCS system produced that stupidity, you're using that as ammunition against an alternative? That's rather backwards.

2) An expansion to superconferences, with CCG lead-ins to a playoff would prevent OU's presence in the NC hunt.

2) The SOS in the BCS formula was problematic and revised after that season.

Or we could just keep scheduling a B12-SEC title game every preseason like we're doing now unless there are no worthy members in those conferences. That system is an excellent one, given how well their flagship school has performed. 03 OU chosen over USC, 08 OU over Texas (who beat them), and to a lesser extent 04 OU over AUB (who was more deserving on paper but clearly not NC material after USC destroyed them).

 

[jwinslow]

Who's this n00b with over 24,000 posts?

uh...

 

[Meyer]

Who's this n00b with over 24,000 posts?

idk but I'm wondering where that douche MililaniBuckeye went

 

[Wingate1217]

Hey, I resemble that remark!!!!!

 

[MissouriFan]

Five I am pulling for: CU, Nebraska, GT, Maryland and ND. If Mizzou comes I would reluctantly cut CU. I'd also cut CU for UVA (read: any great academic school from the mid atlantic or southeast) if that pipe dream happened too.

CU, Iowa, ILL, NU, Neb, Minn, UW, ND : OSU, UM, MSU, PSU, GT, MD, IU, PU - I just have a hard time thinking ND would go along w/ that set up. Perhaps the 4 pods of 4 teams each somehow?

Why would you want CU over MU?

Missouri
- Larger Population (5,987,580)
- Two large media markets
- borders two current Big Ten states and three if you add Nebraska
- Good Football and Basketball programs
- 71,000 Capacity Football Stadium
- Already has a rivalry with Illinois and Nebraska and would quickly grow one with Iowa

Colorado
- Smaller Population (5,024,748)
- One large media market
- Borders only Nebraska
- Once was a good Football Program, Basketball has always sucked. A few years ago they averaged about 3,000 a game.
- 53,000 Capacity Football Stadium
- Has a rivalry with Nebraska

Also consider CU is isolated out west in the Big 12, they would really be an island in the Big Ten where their two closest conference members would be Nebraska at 501 miles away and Iowa 799 miles away.

MU to Iowa City is 230 miles, to Champaign it's 269 miles, to Lincoln it's 325 miles, to Bloomington it's 342 miles, to West Lafayette it's 363 miles, to Chicago it's 384 miles, to Madison it's 420 miles, to Minneapolis it's 500 miles. In fact Columbia MO to Columbus OH is 503 miles. Only two miles more than what would be Colorado's closest conference foe.

Both have enrollments over 30,000 and are AAU members that already do a couple hundred million dollars in research each year.

Taking Colorado over Missouri makes no sense.

 

[billmac91]

Why would you want CU over MU?

Missouri
- Larger Population (5,987,580)
- Two large media markets
- borders two current Big Ten states and three if you add Nebraska
- Good Football and Basketball programs
- 71,000 Capacity Football Stadium
- Already has a rivalry with Illinois and Nebraska and would quickly grow one with Iowa

Colorado
- Smaller Population (5,024,748)
- One large media market
- Borders only Nebraska
- Once was a good Football Program, Basketball has always sucked. A few years ago they averaged about 3,000 a game.
- 53,000 Capacity Football Stadium
- Has a rivalry with Nebraska

Also consider CU is isolated out west in the Big 12, they would really be an island in the Big Ten where their two closest conference members would be Nebraska at 501 miles away and Iowa 799 miles away.

MU to Iowa City is 230 miles, to Champaign it's 269 miles, to Lincoln it's 325 miles, to Bloomington it's 342 miles, to West Lafayette it's 363 miles, to Chicago it's 384 miles, to Madison it's 420 miles, to Minneapolis it's 500 miles. In fact Columbia MO to Columbus OH is 503 miles. Only two miles more than what would be Colorado's closest conference foe.

Both have enrollments over 30,000 and are AAU members that already do a couple hundred million dollars in research each year.

Taking Colorado over Missouri makes no sense.

boom goes the dynamite. Well played.

I've always had a soft spot in my heart for Missouri after Andy Katzenmoyer murdered Corby Jones on the field.