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Big 10 Bowl Matchups

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Pheasant;1013149; said:
13 out of 85. Against Stanford. The 5th best player on Stanford's team would likely be the 50th best player (at best) on USC's.
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Can you validate that assertion, lol. Comparing which position?

As Buckeye fans, we appreciate stout defensive play, and USC has the #2 defense in the country. A good defense like theirs is essential for wiping the field with good teams. And for the most part, their track record at season's end and bowl games is impressive (save the UCLA game last year).

I only brought up the pummeling of Georgia because 1) I think the RB committee will pick UGA over Illinois, 2) It's an interesting matchup, 3) I would find it delightful to see a top SEC team get embarrassed, and 4) I think USC is playing like a team that could do that to UGA. I was not hoping to derail this thread with a discussion on how good USC is.
 
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Zem;1013318; said:
Can you validate that assertion, lol. Comparing which position?

As Buckeye fans, we appreciate stout defensive play, and USC has the #2 defense in the country. A good defense like theirs is essential for wiping the field with good teams. And for the most part, their track record at season's end and bowl games is impressive (save the UCLA game last year).

I only brought up the pummeling of Georgia because 1) I think the RB committee will pick UGA over Illinois, 2) It's an interesting matchup, 3) I would find it delightful to see a top SEC team get embarrassed, and 4) I think USC is playing like a team that could do that to UGA. I was not hoping to derail this thread with a discussion on how good USC is.
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What would really be funny is if Tennessee beats LSU today and then Tennessee gets an automatic BCS bid and Georgia probably gets an at large that would put LSU in the Capital One Bowl against Michigan.

Les vs. Lloyd!!!!

I'd tune in!!

Go Bucks!!!!!
 
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Zem;1013318; said:
Can you validate that assertion, lol. Comparing which position?

As Buckeye fans, we appreciate stout defensive play, and USC has the #2 defense in the country. A good defense like theirs is essential for wiping the field with good teams. And for the most part, their track record at season's end and bowl games is impressive (save the UCLA game last year).

I only brought up the pummeling of Georgia because 1) I think the RB committee will pick UGA over Illinois, 2) It's an interesting matchup, 3) I would find it delightful to see a top SEC team get embarrassed, and 4) I think USC is playing like a team that could do that to UGA. I was not hoping to derail this thread with a discussion on how good USC is.
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Trying to stay on topic...I don't understand. :biggrin:

I agree it would be nice to see a top SEC team get smoked, but it wouldn't deter the SEC faithful from pointing out the Georgia wasn't even the best team in their division, let alone the entire conference, and thus the win should have gone to USC. I also wouldn't want any more of the "USC is playing better than anyone else in the country right now" crap to get any added credibility.

I would love to see Illinois play against USC, but I will be happy as a clam if tOSU gets the opportunity to play USC.
 
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CG: OSU vs. LSU
Sugar: UGA vs. Hawaii
Fiesta: Oklahoma vs. ASU
Orange: VT vs. Missouri/WVU
Rose: USC vs. Illinois/Missouri

I think it comes down to whether WVU gets in over Illinois. If the OB selects WVU, the RB would probably go with Mizzou? I just can't see Missouri, who only lost to Okla, getting knocked out of the BCS. And I think, despite the abysmal showing last night, WVU would still get in over Illinois in the OB. But I think the RB would choose Illinois over WVU.

I know the Sugar chooses first or second because they lost LSU. Does the Rose choose first or second because they lost OSU? Of the other bowls, I don't know the selection order.

Cap1: UF vs. Illinois
Outback: Tennessee vs. Wisconsin
Alamo: PSU vs. Texas
Insight: scUM vs. Texas Tech or A&M
Motor City: Iowa vs. CMU

So scUM has to pull for Ill to be invited to the BS, and play Florida in the Cap1, or else drop down to the Insight. If Ill does go to a BS bowl, Iowa moves up to the Insight and MSU/Indiana/Purdue gets invited to the Motor city.

I don't think there is a bowl specified for the Big10 #5 team. The Sun bowl isn't taking a Big10 team this year. I think that game will be South Fl vs. Oregon State, and Oregon will go to the Pioneer bowl.
 
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Rose or Sugar gets first pick based on who is BCS #1. That should be tOSU, but there's a slight chance LSU could get to #1 with a boost from the computer rankings.

I think the Rose will take Illinois, and the Sugar will take Georgia.

Rose : USC-Illinois
Sugar: Georgia-Hawaii (they get the last choice)
Orange: Va. Tech-West Va.
Fiesta: Oklahoma-Kansas (these teams didn't play this year)
 
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Zem;1015333; said:
CG: OSU vs. LSU
Sugar: UGA vs. Hawaii
Fiesta: Oklahoma vs. ASU
Orange: VT vs. Missouri/WVU
Rose: USC vs. Illinois/Missouri

I think it comes down to whether WVU gets in over Illinois. If the OB selects WVU, the RB would probably go with Mizzou? I just can't see Missouri, who only lost to Okla, getting knocked out of the BCS. And I think, despite the abysmal showing last night, WVU would still get in over Illinois in the OB. But I think the RB would choose Illinois over WVU.

I know the Sugar chooses first or second because they lost LSU. Does the Rose choose first or second because they lost OSU? Of the other bowls, I don't know the selection order.

Cap1: UF vs. Illinois
Outback: Tennessee vs. Wisconsin
Alamo: PSU vs. Texas
Insight: scUM vs. Texas Tech or A&M
Motor City: Iowa vs. CMU

So scUM has to pull for Ill to be invited to the BS, and play Florida in the Cap1, or else drop down to the Insight. If Ill does go to a BS bowl, Iowa moves up to the Insight and MSU/Indiana/Purdue gets invited to the Motor city.

I don't think there is a bowl specified for the Big10 #5 team. The Sun bowl isn't taking a Big10 team this year. I think that game will be South Fl vs. Oregon State, and Oregon will go to the Pioneer bowl.
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WVU is automatically in by winning the Big East.
 
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Zem;1015333; said:
CG: OSU vs. LSU
Sugar: UGA vs. Hawaii
Fiesta: Oklahoma vs. ASU
Orange: VT vs. Missouri/WVU
Rose: USC vs. Illinois/Missouri

I think it comes down to whether WVU gets in over Illinois. If the OB selects WVU, the RB would probably go with Mizzou? I just can't see Missouri, who only lost to Okla, getting knocked out of the BCS. And I think, despite the abysmal showing last night, WVU would still get in over Illinois in the OB. But I think the RB would choose Illinois over WVU.

I know the Sugar chooses first or second because they lost LSU. Does the Rose choose first or second because they lost OSU? Of the other bowls, I don't know the selection order.

Cap1: UF vs. Illinois
Outback: Tennessee vs. Wisconsin
Alamo: PSU vs. Texas
Insight: scUM vs. Texas Tech or A&M
Motor City: Iowa vs. CMU

So scUM has to pull for Ill to be invited to the BS, and play Florida in the Cap1, or else drop down to the Insight. If Ill does go to a BS bowl, Iowa moves up to the Insight and MSU/Indiana/Purdue gets invited to the Motor city.

I don't think there is a bowl specified for the Big10 #5 team. The Sun bowl isn't taking a Big10 team this year. I think that game will be South Fl vs. Oregon State, and Oregon will go to the Pioneer bowl.
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Worst Vagina has to be included in a BCS bowl. Only putting them as a possibility in one bowl implies otherwise. It's not up to the bowl committee's discretion. I wish it were. Kantpass against anyone decent, probably gets the nod over Misery, as a 1-loss team in the same conference. The fighting Illini's BCS hopes were vanquished by the Warriors last night.
 
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Bernini;1015371; said:
Worst Vagina has to be included in a BCS bowl. Only putting them as a possibility in one bowl implies otherwise. It's not up to the bowl committee's discretion. I wish it were. Kantpass against anyone decent, probably gets the nod over Misery, as a 1-loss team in the same conference. The fighting Illini's BCS hopes were vanquished by the Warriors last night.
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Even with Hawaii having a guaranteed spot by being in the BCS top-12, there still need to be 3 at-large teams from 3 different BCS conferences.

SEC gets 2
Big 12 gets 2

Illinois is basically in a beauty contest with Arizona St. from the Pac 10.

Because the Rose picks before the Fiesta (who would glady grab the local Arizona State squad) , the Rose can (and probably will) take Illinois over Georgia, Kansas, Mizzou or Arizona State because of the traditional Big 10-Pac 10 factor (and USC already played ASU).
 
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Originally Posted by Bernini
Worst Vagina has to be included in a BCS bowl. Only putting them as a possibility in one bowl implies otherwise. It's not up to the bowl committee's discretion. I wish it were. Kantpass against anyone decent, probably gets the nod over Misery, as a 1-loss team in the same conference. The fighting Illini's BCS hopes were vanquished by the Warriors last night.
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Not at all. This is how it will shake.

CG: OSU vs LSU
RB USC vs Illinois
Fiesta: OU vs Kansas
Orange: VT vs West Virginia
Sugar: Georgia vs Hawaii

I guarantee the Rose will choose Illinois. The Rose will take Illinois because if not Delaney will be pissed if they don't. If Delaney gets pissed, he might start to lean towards a playoff which the Rose Bowl does not want, at all. The only possible variance from my projections is a switch of KU and WVU.
 
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t_BuckeyeScott;1015386; said:
Not at all. This is how it will shake.

CG: OSU vs LSU
RB USC vs Illinois
Fiesta: OU vs Kansas
Orange: VT vs West Virginia
Sugar: Georgia vs Hawaii

I guarantee the Rose will choose Illinois. The Rose will take Illinois because if not Delaney will be pissed if they don't. If Delaney gets pissed, he might start to lean towards a playoff which the Rose Bowl does not want, at all. The only possible variance from my projections is a switch of KU and WVU.
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The Rose bowl went untraditional with Texas in '05. You saying the Pac 10 has no big league clout?
 
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Bernini;1015396; said:
The Rose bowl went untraditional with Texas in '05. You saying the Pac 10 has no big league clout?
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The Rose Bowl only had a choice of Texas or Utah in '05. Texas was ranked 4th in the BCS and 1-3 were conference champs. They were an auto qualifier. Utah was 6th and also an auto qualifier. The Rose Bowl would have picked Cal if they it were possible.
 
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Zurp;1015411; said:
What is the situation with the Orange Bowl and the Big East / ACC tie-in? Do they get to choose if they want the ACC champion or Big East champion? Or does it alternate?
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As stated, Va. Tech (ACC) is tied in to the Orange.

Some (not me) think that the Orange will take Kansas over West Va. But they'll get to make that choice.
 
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