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BCS Title Game: ND + 9.5 vs Alabama (ov/un 41.5)

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Watching the SEC teams in action today and throughout the year, I am starting to believe that ND has a real shot. Going to be a strong defensive day all the way around I think. 20-17 or 20-14 type of game.
 
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Bestbuck36;2284463; said:
Watching the SEC teams in action today and throughout the year, I am starting to believe that ND has a real shot. Going to be a strong defensive day all the way around I think. 20-17 or 20-14 type of game.
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Agree. Despite what we've been sold ("4-5 sec teams could easily be playing for the NC" :roll1:), I've been quite underwhelmed when watching them. Not just in bowl season, all year.
 
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Bestbuck36;2284463; said:
Watching the SEC teams in action today and throughout the year, I am starting to believe that ND has a real shot. Going to be a strong defensive day all the way around I think. 20-17 or 20-14 type of game.
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Regardless of who I want to win (go meteor!) I have been of the opinion ND wins straight up since that Pitt kicker shanked the FG in OT.

I have a decent chunk of money on them ML at +300
 
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Buckeye doc;2284547; said:
Watching bowl games today has made me realize my SEC hatred far outpaces my domer loathing. Fuck tide, go Irish!

(sorry ord and cinci, I just hate satan and his minions more)
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watching the bowl games confirmed my suspicion that the SEC is vastly overrated.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;2282360; said:
You won't be if, a couple of years down the road, the domer resurgence has been proven legit and Ohio Catholic schools (and most of the entire Cincy area) are sending a stream of 4 and 5 star players to South Bend.
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3074326;2282368; said:
If Notre Dame wins, we will still be hearing about it in 30 years. If Alabama wins, nothing changes.
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Bing-fucking-o. Originally, I was so tired of the "S-E-C!" bullshit, I thought I could tolerate ND beating the Tide...not any more. Alabama--and the SEC as a whole--have earned the right to crow of their sustained success. On the other hand, Notre Dame's flash-in-the-pan national title would be talked about for years as if it were the very plan of The Almighty Himself. Fuck that.
 
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How many kids has Alabama raided from OSU's territory? 1?

How many does ND raid when they are terrible? How many more will they raid if they become relevant for the first time in decades?
 
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jwinslow;2285482; said:
How many kids has Alabama raided from OSU's territory? 1?

How many does ND raid when they are terrible? How many more will they raid if they become relevant for the first time in decades?
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If I recall Notre Dame pulls in 1/3 of the recruits that Michigan takes out of Ohio if I remember, with many coming from the Catholic schools and Cincinnati anyway. It was somewhere around 8 guys on roster right now, but I haven't gone back to check the math so don't quote me. I certainly wouldn't say Buckeyes are hurting once the Irish get their guys. Right now they're doing more to try and strengthen recruiting outside of the Midwest too.

On an unrelated note, some of you guys picking the Irish to win are starting to scare me...it's like a jinx waiting to happen :wink2: I think it'll be a good match up, but I think the depth Alabama brings and the experience on this stage will be the deciding factor.
 
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ulukinatme;2285630; said:
If I recall Notre Dame pulls in 1/3 of the recruits that Michigan takes out of Ohio if I remember, with many coming from the Catholic schools and Cincinnati anyway. It was somewhere around 8 guys on roster right now, but I haven't gone back to check the math so don't quote me. I certainly wouldn't say Buckeyes are hurting once the Irish get their guys. Right now they're doing more to try and strengthen recruiting outside of the Midwest too.
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Jimmy Byrne & Jaylon Smith were tough losses (yes I know where Jaylon resides :wink:). ND also snagged another buckeye brother in Heuerman who talked Bosa & Anzalone into OSU.

I prefer having ND steal 1 midwest battle every year, not 3-5 like this year (Bivin, Anzalone, McGovern). I expect more of the latter if ND were to upset Bama.
 
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jwinslow;2285796; said:
Jimmy Byrne & Jaylon Smith were tough losses (yes I know where Jaylon resides :wink:). ND also snagged another buckeye brother in Heuerman who talked Bosa & Anzalone into OSU.

I prefer having ND steal 1 midwest battle every year, not 3-5 like this year (Bivin, Anzalone, McGovern). I expect more of the latter if ND were to upset Bama.
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The way I see it, it's just been a magic year that isn't going to occur again until maybe this recent class matures. Heres my take: some of the B1G had a bad year, lot of rebuilding and sanctions going on. There were a lot of other perennial powerhouses that didn't meet expectations this year that kind of let ND land in the big game. They won't be back there next year with the schedule, losing a lot of the offensive line, and several key defenders. They have to start fast with Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, and Oklahoma all in Sept, no way they make it out of there without 1-2 losses. Michigan State will be improved, Wisconsin will be better imo without the slow start and a good replacement, OSU will dominate again, all good for the B1G. Without the sanctions, I don't see anyone holding the Buckeyes back next year with Urban getting another year to integrate his plans and recruiting. I see OSU being a favorite for the MNC next year, with the Irish picking up 2-4 losses. All things recruiting will be back to normal then.
 
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ulukinatme;2285803; said:
The way I see it, it's just been a magic year that isn't going to occur again until maybe this recent class matures. Heres my take: some of the B1G had a bad year, lot of rebuilding and sanctions going on. There were a lot of other perennial powerhouses that didn't meet expectations this year that kind of let ND land in the big game. They won't be back there next year with the schedule, losing a lot of the offensive line, and several key defenders. They have to start fast with Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, and Oklahoma all in Sept, no way they make it out of there without 1-2 losses. Michigan State will be improved, Wisconsin will be better imo without the slow start and a good replacement, OSU will dominate again, all good for the B1G. Without the sanctions, I don't see anyone holding the Buckeyes back next year with Urban getting another year to integrate his plans and recruiting. I see OSU being a favorite for the MNC next year, with the Irish picking up 2-4 losses. All things recruiting will be back to normal then.
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Truth. But that won't stop the bandwagon fans yelling the return to the top and how ND doesn't need a conference BS. I'd rather a B1G team derail the SEC dominance train over ND any day. Then I don't have to hear about how ND gave us the "game plan" to beat a SEC team in the big game (which is have a good D and an efficient O with good linemen).

Plus Brian Kelly is the biggest douche north of the Mason-Dixie line since Bret left.
 
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