BCS Title Contenders (Can tOSU get there?)

[DaddyBigBucks]

I... Maybe the NCAA should stop f-ing around with the clock rules and starting fixing the real problems.

They're too busy worrying about the 2 Native Americans who complained about the use of their tribal name while ignoring the entire rest of the tribe who supported the use of the name.

PC Rules: The candy-ass who is most easily offended makes the rules.

/hijack

 

[JBaney45]

I didn't think there was a rule. Seems like there should be though. Somehow, you can be in a situation where you're not good enough to play for your conference title, but you are good enough to play for the national title. Hmmmmm... something's stinky. Maybe the NCAA should stop f-ing around with the clock rules and starting fixing the real problems.

Well the NCAA doesn't really control the BCS and its selection procedures.

The rule is not official but its became sort of a de-facto rule. Georgia was in the position where it would have been #2 but LSU hopped them in the final polls because they won their conference title game.

 

[BB73]

Post #1 has been updated. Temas no longer a threat to finish above an 11-1 tOSU team have been dropped to the bottom of the post. Teams that have wins in games thought to have been 'tough' have had those opponents changed to a gray color. Depending on your day/night BP view, that may be hard to see.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

Well the NCAA doesn't really control the BCS and its selection procedures.

The rule is not official but its became sort of a de-facto rule. Georgia was in the position where it would have been #2 but LSU hopped them in the final polls because they won their conference title game.

It is not now nor has it ever been a de facto rule. LSU was put in the title game because people thought they were the best 2-loss team available: End of story.

It wasn't that long ago that team(s?) made it to the championship game without winning their division in their conference. (Nebraska I'm sure of without looking it up, there may have been others)

Nothing has changed since then that would prevent it from happening again.

 

[BUCKYLE]

It is not now nor has it ever been a de facto rule. LSU was put in the title game because people thought they were the best 2-loss team available: End of story.

It wasn't that long ago that team(s?) made it to the championship game without winning their division in their conference. (Nebraska I'm sure of without looking it up, there may have been others)

Nothing has changed since then that would prevent it from happening again.

Nebraska getting rolled kind of put that "rule" in voters minds, imo.

 

[JBaney45]

It is not now nor has it ever been a de facto rule. LSU was put in the title game because people thought they were the best 2-loss team available: End of story.

It wasn't that long ago that team(s?) made it to the championship game without winning their division in their conference. (Nebraska I'm sure of without looking it up, there may have been others)

Nothing has changed since then that would prevent it from happening again.

Oklahoma in 2003 made it to the title game after Kansas State took em behind the woodshed in the Big 12 title game

Im just saying they would have been justified in taking Georgia, the losses were early in the season and they were the hottest team. They decided to bump up a conference champion instead. In 2006 Michigan was ranked above Florida until the final week. Florida leaped Michigan after they won their conference when Michigan had not played. I think that's an indicator that the thinking has changed a bit

 

[rocketman]

Our lack of ranking volatility after the 9 spot post-USC drop is really starting to hurt us now. A win over Purdue won't do anything for us.

Mizzou-OSU, LSU-UF, Texas-OU - all those games don't really help us anymore. A Texas upset will most likely keep both teams ahead of us. Same goes for LSU-UF. We almost need OU and LSU to rout their opponents. Oklahoma State might get a huge bump as well for beating the Tigers.

Now we have to count on rather absurd upsets to occur for us to make it into the top 10 next week. New Mexico over BYU? Riiight. TTU over Nebraska? After what Mizzou did to the Huskers? Tennessee over Georgia? Doubtful.

Granted, things look dire if you are focusing solely on a week to week perspective. The good thing is we have 3 potentially ranked teams on our schedule in PSU, MSU, and (believe it) Northwestern.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

Nebraska getting rolled kind of put that "rule" in voters minds, imo.

That was 2001...

Oklahoma in 2003 made it to the title game after Kansas State took em behind the woodshed in the Big 12 title game

Apparently not enough voters got the mind memo.

And more people talk about doing something about it every time a team that failed to win their conference lays an egg in the big one.

But all the "talk" was that it would never happen again after the Huskers. But it did just 2 years later.

Talk is cheap.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

I think our remaining schedule.....every game.....should be included on the first post as emphasis that we need to get our shit done first.

 

[ScriptOhio]

Only two more weeks.......

The BCS will announce its first standings of the season on Oct. 19.

The BCS standings formula consists three components, each weighted equally: the USA Today Coaches' Poll, the Harris Interactive College Football Poll and an average of six computer rankings (Anderson & Hester, Richard Billingsley, Colley Matrix, Kenneth Massey, Jeff Sagarin and Peter Wolfe).

FOX Sports on MSN - COLLEGE FOOTBALL - BCS standings to come out Oct. 19

 

[Gatorubet]

I think our remaining schedule.....every game.....should be included on the first post as emphasis that we need to get our shit done first.

You guys need Penn State to keep winning big. When you beat JoePa, you will get enough props to be in the hunt. The Big-12 and SEC will likely cannibalize each other this year, as the Big-12 depth is better than ever. In the SEC the Kentucky's and Vandy's (and Old Mrs :() are good enough to take you down on an off week, so when the smoke clears, it is unlikely that a one loss team gets out of Atlanta this year.

Make no mistake, I think you guys have a good shot. What you need to ask is whether you will get by an undefeated BYU team that has won a PAC 10 game.

 

[Onebuckfan]

After the loss to USC i thought even if we won out we would be by-passed..but maybe the National Media's love for TP and Beanie might give us a shot at the NC..BUT lets take care of business one game at a time..PSU,MSU and Illini won,t be cake walks! GO BUCKS

 

[Dryden]

Last night on ESPN's College Football Live, Ed Cunningham was trumpeting the Bucks for consideration when discussing the best one-loss teams in the country, at least in the pool with Southern Cal, Georgia, and Florida. Cunningham's argument was that, while the defense hasn't been dominant, it's good enough to get the job done, and would be aided by an offense that can move the ball, which OSU will develop as the Beanie & Pryor backfield evolve. He also suggested that OSU was hamstrung without Beanie in LA.

Also, OSU could likely play four ranked teams in a row when the games are eventually played (Michigan St, Penn St, Northwestern, and Illinois); three of them on the road.

I think the remaining schedule sets up well for OSU to make a run, and it's not a bad thing to have the media wonks at least throwing the Buckeyes out there for consideration.

Outside of the Ws and Ls, obviously, the two biggest things that have to break OSU's way to get into the title discussion are (1) Beanie & Pryor have to go nuts offensively. In a beauty pageant, these two have to be able to match Mizzou, Oklahoma, Texas, etc ... when sorting the teams and (2) Southern Cal has to lose again. If Southern Cal has one loss, they go ahead of Ohio State.

 

[Gatorubet]

After the loss to USC i thought even if we won out we would be by-passed..but maybe the National Media's love for TP and Beanie might give us a shot at the NC..BUT lets take care of business one game at a time..PSU,MSU and Illini won,t be cake walks! GO BUCKS

That is really the other issue. Everybody can say, "Well - we were hurt that game", or "we got better as the year wore on", or "The loss was an aberration", blah blah...

But in your case, your number one Heisman hyped weapon was on the sidelines, and you did not have Pryor in as a starter. Pryor and Beanie are exciting, and I think that Tress can bang that drum and it not sound like whining. Now, that was a butt whipping, but you do have a solid argument why it should not matter as much as - say - UF's loss, which was at home against an unranked team. Ours should count against us far far more than a loss at USC.

 

[rocketman]

Also, OSU could likely play four ranked teams in a row when the games are eventually played (Michigan St, Penn St, Northwestern, and Illinois); three of them on the road.

Just to nitpick, but MSU and Northwestern play each other this week, so one of them won't be ranked afterward. The Illini play Minnesota, Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa, and Western Michigan before they reach us. All of those games are winnable, with the exception of Wisconsin. Beat Wisconsin and they will be ranked.