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BCS Title Contenders (Can tOSU get there?)

I don't see a team that losses 35-3, albeit on the road to the then-#1 team and without its Heisman-caliber running back, deserves a shot at the NC. I'd be saying this about any other team, so I should be objective enough to say it about us.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1276489; said:
I don't see a team that losses 35-3, albeit on the road to the then-#1 team and without its Heisman-caliber running back, deserves a shot at the NC. I'd be saying this about any other team, so I should be objective enough to say it about us.

that's a good point, but what if the other teams in contention have 2 losses, one of which is to an unranked team?

has anyone before made an NC game with one terrible early season loss?
 
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fourteenandoh;1276491; said:
that's a good point, but what if the other teams in contention have 2 losses, one of which is to an unranked team?

has anyone before made an NC game with one terrible early season loss?

Depends on who the other teams in contention beat. If they beat OSU 35-3, then yes, they deserve a shot.
 
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fourteenandoh;1276491; said:
that's a good point, but what if the other teams in contention have 2 losses, one of which is to an unranked team?

has anyone before made an NC game with one terrible early season loss?

1983 Miami. Lost their opener to Florida 28-3.

Also, the 2001 Nebraska team got hammered by Colorado in the B12 title game and STILL went to the Rose Bowl.

So, there's that, for whatever it's worth.
 
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BrutusBobcat;1276530; said:
1983 Miami. Lost their opener to Florida 28-3.

Also, the 2001 Nebraska team got hammered by Colorado in the B12 title game and STILL went to the Rose Bowl.

So, there's that, for whatever it's worth.
The 1975 Oklahoma team lost to Kansas 23-3, at home, in week 9, and still won the NC. Of course, you can give the assist to Ohio Still, who lost the Rose Bowl to UCLA that year....
 
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crazybuckfan40;1274765; said:
With Pryor and Wells in the backfield together that is very dangerous and that is a totally different look from what we played with against USC...

And had it been a close game, people would be more forgiving.

I predict it will take 3 losses by everyone before we're back in the BCS game. (I'd love to be wrong, but I just can't see it happening any other way - as evident by how the rankings dropped us 10 spots for losing to #1 yet losing to nobody drops you 3-4 spots in other conferences
 
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If you remember Virginia Tech was in the discussion at the end of last season. They lost to the number 2 team by 41? (I can't remeber exactly but it was a blowout) They had zero injuries, lost another game and still got into the NC discussion at years end.
 
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mross34;1275474; said:
CFN wrote a great article about this same subject on Sunday.

Came out with a very brief guide to simplify the situation.

Scout.com: So... What Do All The Upsets Mean?


I have one word for this situation - style points. OK two words - need quality wins. OK I am beyond words to describe what I see....

I see qualifiers here for conference champions. I could imagine an upset in the B12 or SEC championship game that leaves a one loss team out of the picture. Does the BCS equation demand a conference champion this year?
 
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We can discuss what should happen all we want. I will probably even participate in that discussion at some point.

But what will happen is not a mystery. After the last two BCS CGs, people were looking for a reason to exclude us from the next one. We gave them a great reason. They will exclude us: end of story.

Go Bucks
 
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fourteenandoh;1276491; said:
that's a good point, but what if the other teams in contention have 2 losses, one of which is to an unranked team?

USC had already lost to an unranked team, and if they lose a close game later to a ranked team I think they would still be considered ahead of us even if we run the table. That 35-3 whippin' gives USC a lot of leeway...
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1277153; said:
USC had already lost to an unranked team, and if they lose a close game later to a ranked team I think they would still be considered ahead of us even if we run the table. That 35-3 whippin' gives USC a lot of leeway...


really? two losses vs one loss. there have been times when two one loss teams are fighting for a spot and the team that beat the other team doesn't get in. think team A beats team B then team A loses a few games later. they both have one loss and for some reason team B gets the nod. if OSU and USC both have one loss, its obvious it goes to USC. if, however, USC loses to UCLA (for example) and we win out you say it goes to USC? you're probably right and i agree with you, but i think that would be unfair (for lack of a better term) to us based on the precedent of every other year in CFB. i guess it all comes down to how much we are really hated right now.

can anyone name a time when two BCS conference teams were trying to get a top ranking and the nod went to a 2 loss team over a 1 loss team? i don't have a very good memory for stuff like that.
 
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Based on this year's polls, it seems as though tOSU will not make it to the NC game. And I'm more than ok with that, I want the team to win out, beat scUM and go to the Rose Bowl and lay the wood on whoever is there. Send the Seniors out on a good game, and get the next generation acclimated to a BCS Bowl setting. End the season with a big bowl win and save some face. I do not want another off-season of shit talk from everyone because no one else could finish their own title run.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1277153; said:
USC had already lost to an unranked team, and if they lose a close game later to a ranked team I think they would still be considered ahead of us even if we run the table. That 35-3 whippin' gives USC a lot of leeway...

I'm not buying this. tOSU would have a big win over Penn St. (assuming they don't lose before then), and USC has absolutely no chance to get any real juice in the polls: they play Oregon (who is now ranked, but lost at home to Boise St.), Arizona State, Cal, and Ntre Ame. I think a 1-loss tOSU gets ahead of a 2-loss USC, and even ahead of a 2-loss SEC or Big 12 champion (having Pryor making the team look exciting is a factor).

Anf for those saying that the team is beter off in another BCS bowl getting a probable win, rather than playing in another BCS Title game: Really, you wouldn't want to play somebody like Missouri or Texas for the National Championship?
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1277153; said:
USC had already lost to an unranked team, and if they lose a close game later to a ranked team I think they would still be considered ahead of us even if we run the table. That 35-3 whippin' gives USC a lot of leeway...


If the second loss comes against a PAC-10 school then USC will have two conference losses. I assume that there will be a PAC-10 team with one loss that will be the conference champ at that point. Loosing the PAC-10 should all but disqualify USC.... as much as that would annoy the college football world.
 
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Whether or not we like it or agree with it, the media and pollsters will insist on pointing to Sep 13th. We all know that we're a markedly better team now with Beanie back and Pryor at the helm, but unfortunately the powers that be still haven't forgotten the last two NC games and Sep 13th...
 
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