BCS Title Contenders (Can tOSU get there?)

[nwbuckeye]

For Ohio State to get back into the title game, every other BCS conference team (except 1 team that they would face), would have to have AT LEAST 1 more loss than the buckeyes. tOSU won't get the nod over any other team from a BCS conference if the records are the same, even if we have only one loss to USC, and that team has a loss to a weaker opponent. Is it fair, not really, but its the result of being man handled in the last two BCS games. The voters, and the public at large doesn't want to see tOSU in the title game again. If given another choice, be assured they will take that choice.

I would go as far to say that there is a GOOD chance that if LSU/AL had 2 losses, and tOSU had 1 loss, AL/LSU might get the nod to play say USC, or Oklahoma in the title game.

We will not get the nod over a 2 loss SEC team, not after what has happened the last two years. The only way we make it in this year, is as the 2nd team in to play a undefeated or 1 loss team with nobody from the SEC having less than 3 losses. An unlikely scenario at best. I think the ideal thing from a mental standpoint is to play the 2nd best SEC team in a BCS bowl (assuming SEC champ goes to NC) and getting a big win and the monkey off our back to set up runs for the NC game the next two years with TP at the helm.

 

[mross34]

CFN wrote a great article about this same subject on Sunday.

Came out with a very brief guide to simplify the situation.

Scout.com: So... What Do All The Upsets Mean?

7. As it stands now, the national title pecking order is (for right or wrong) ...
1. Unbeaten SEC champion
2. Unbeaten Big 12 champion
3. Unbeaten Big Ten champion
4. One loss SEC champion
5. Unbeaten Big East Champion
6. One loss USC, 7. One loss Big 12 champion
8. One-loss Big 12 champion
9. Unbeaten Mountain West champion
10. One loss Big Ten champion
11. Two loss SEC champion.
(Note: The ACC doesn't have an unbeaten team and likely has no shot of anyone, except maybe Virginia Tech, getting into the national championship.)

 

[HOLYBUCKEYE10]

I still don't see really any way we can make an NC. Unless people will realize that this OSU team with TP as QB and Beanie back is a new team. A good offense is sometimes the best D, and our D right now is already good lol. I just don't see people giving us any credit based on the USC game as well as the last 2 NC's. Unfair or not, that's probably how it is.

 

[MD Buckeye]

Why are we even talking about the NC Game? How about we focus on what we have infront of us and worry about getting through this tough Big Ten schedule and potentially winning the Big Ten.

 

[ScriptOhio]

Re: As it stands now, the national title pecking order is (for right or wrong) ...
1. Unbeaten SEC champion
2. Unbeaten Big 12 champion
3. Unbeaten Big Ten champion
4. One loss SEC champion
5. Unbeaten Big East Champion
6. One loss USC,
7. One loss Big 12 champion
8. One-loss Big 12 champion
9. Unbeaten Mountain West champion
10. One loss Big Ten champion
11. Two loss SEC champion.

I guess, theoretically, Penn State does have a chance at that.

P.S. I would also say that Northwestern has a zero chance at that.

 

[BB73]

CFN wrote a great article about this same subject on Sunday.

Came out with a very brief guide to simplify the situation.

Scout.com: So... What Do All The Upsets Mean?

I saw that article yesterday after I started this thead. It's saying almost the same thing as my first post, but its pecking order makes it a little easier to see. But I also wanted to be able to track all of the teams involved.

The only thing I question is the placement of a 1-loss Big-12 Champion. Depending on which team that is, they could be ahead of an undefeated Big East champion, and they probably should be ahead of a 1-loss USC. It bothers me that USC could get a title spot handed to them based on prior year's Bowl Game performances, rather than solely what teams earn from their play in 2008.

 

[BB73]

Why are we even talking about the NC Game? How about we focus on what we have infront of us and worry about getting through this tough Big Ten schedule and potentially winning the Big Ten.

I understand your point, and I hope that's the focus of the team. And there's a thread for the Big Ten in the college football forum. Bucklion made a great point this morning about PSU and tOSU's history with their remaining schedules.

But with BP, separate topics, separate threads. Some people will wonder about this topic throughout the course of the season, as long as tOSU keeps winning, so we should have a place to track the information and have the discussion of the team's chances, even though they are slim.

 

[MD Buckeye]

I understand your point, and I hope that's the focus of the team. And there's a thread for the Big Ten in the college football forum. Bucklion made a great point this morning about PSU and tOSU's history with their remaining schedules.

But with BP, separate topics, separate threads. Some people will wonder about this topic throughout the course of the season, as long as tOSU keeps winning, so we should have a place to track the information and have the discussion of the team's chances, even though they are slim.

Sorry if I came off as busting you for starting this thread, that wasn't my intent. I think we, as Buckeye fans, have been "spoiled" with being in the NC Game the two previous years and people may be expecting too much from this team. I don't know about the rest of you, but personally, I'll be damn happy with a winning season and the potential of winning the Big Ten.......and obviously crushing scUM on 11/22.

No matter where we end up though, I know I'll be supporting our Buckeyes. LETS GO BUCKS!!!!

 

[Southpaw Stone]

2 things that may help up get to the NC:

1. TP's progression at QB. Each game he seems to get a little better. We will need him to carry us in games where we once couldn't count on a less mobile qb.

2. Our defense needs to get nasty. What happened to the silver bullets of old? We are missing the nasty streak from the Tenuta-Pugac-Dantonio years.

My opinion, we need both of these and maybe we get enough respect to go to Miami IF we remain undefeated.

Oh yeah, a healthy Beanie would be nice too.

 

[rocketman]

This game was fun to play last year.

IF WE WIN ON SATURDAY...

• Alabama needs to lose to Kentucky. Do the wildcats have it in them to pull off an upset like they did last year?
• Texas needs to lose to Colorado. The Buffs upset OU last year. Can they take it to the Longhorns?
• OU needs to lose to Baylor. Can the Bears do... something? Anything?
• Mizzou needs to lose to Nebraska. Can Bo Pelini fire up the Huskers?
• BYU needs to lose to- who am I kidding? They won't lose to anyone on their schedule besides maybe the Utes. Utah State doesn't stand a chance this week, but we can dream.
• USF is in the same category, their schedule is too easy for them to fail. If the Wannstache pulls off another miracle, I hope its this Thursday.
• Texas Tech needs to lose to KSU. This might be the most probable upset of the weekend.
• USC needs to lose to Oregon. Another Trojan loss doesn't help our credibility, but the best chance I see at making another title run is convincing the pollster that we are a different team and that game should be treated as a mulligan. Remember, VT was #3 at the end of the regular season, with some yahoos saying they deserve to be in the NC game over LSU even though they got their asses handed to them by the Tigers. One of the big reasons was because of Tyrod Taylor's emergence as a playmaker. Sounds familiar... (It's about as flimsy of an argument one can make, but damnit I want to believe!)

For those arguing against contemplating a NC run: This is an internet message board. The whole point of this site is to make crazy, off-the-wall arguments and have fun about it. If you don't want to think we have a shot at making it to the title game, then don't visit this thread. None of us here actually play for the Buckeyes (I hope) so idle speculation won't actually harm the team. Personally, as things stand now, I don't think we have a snowballs chance in hell to make it to Miami, but who cares? Upsets make CFB special.

 

[MD Buckeye]

ESPN - On The Mark: Week 5 - College Football

Last year shows that one loss is not a season ender

And you thought the roller-coaster ride of 2007 was over.

College football fans on campuses at Florida, Georgia and Wisconsin awoke Friday morning with renewed dreams of winning a BCS National Championship.

But the euphoria from Oregon State's 27-21 upset of No. 1 Southern California on Thursday night lasted less than 48 hours for most of those fans.


No. 3 Georgia laid a golden egg in a 41-30 loss to No. 8 Alabama at Sanford Stadium on Saturday night. No. 4 Florida lost to Ole Miss 31-30 in the Swamp on, of all things, a blocked extra-point attempt. No. 9 Wisconsin blew a 19-point lead and lost to unranked Michigan 27-25 in the Big House.

Contd....

Ohio State

Good news: The Buckeyes welcomed back tailback Chris "Beanie" Wells in a 34-21 win over Minnesota on Saturday. Wells, who had missed the previous two games with a foot injury, ran 14 times for 106 yards. Freshman quarterback Terrelle Pryor has more big-play potential than former starter Todd Boeckman. Pryor ran for 97 yards and two touchdowns and threw for 70 yards and one score in his second start.

Bad news: How forgiving will voters be? The Buckeyes not only have to make voters forget about their 35-3 loss at USC on Sept. 13, but also about their performances in the last two BCS Championship Games. Fair or not, Ohio State is fighting a national perception that it can't perform in big games.


Its road to Miami: The Buckeyes have to beat No. 18 Wisconsin and No. 6 Penn State and hope USC isn't one of the last one-loss teams left at season's end.

 

[Taosman]

Expect the unexpected in another wacky college football season. And the new clock rules don't make things better.

 

[JSooner]

Things could go one of two ways for us. We could have FSU's fortune of making it back to the BCS title game for the third straight time despite losing the previous two, or we could end up being like Oklahoma, which lost to LSU handily and then got blown out by SC and never made it back. I'm thinking that we are going to be like Oklahoma. However, convincing wins here on out could change my mind.

What is losing "handily" to you? Throwing it into the end zone to send it into overtime as time is expiring? A 7 point loss? That's "handily" to you?

And never make it back? So you mean if you don't make it to the BCS title game for three years, that means you never made it back? How many years is never to you? Four? That's how many years it took for OSU to get back to the title game after the win over Miami. Last year we were as close to making it back as a Sam Bradford injury vs texas tech. And it seems like we've got a pretty good chance to make it back this year too.

 

[BUCKYLE]

What is losing "handily" to you? Throwing it into the end zone to send it into overtime as time is expiring? A 7 point loss? That's "handily" to you?

And never make it back? So you mean if you don't make it to the BCS title game for three years, that means you never made it back? How many years is never to you? Four? That's how many years it took for OSU to get back to the title game after the win over Miami. Last year we were as close to making it back as a Sam Bradford injury vs texas tech. And it seems like we've got a pretty good chance to make it back this year too.

Uh...welcome to BP!

 

[fourteenandoh]

Uh...welcome to BP!

that is an interesting first post. he must get an email every time the word "oklahoma" comes up on a message board. then he signs up for the site and defends the honor of the sooners.