Game Thread BCS National Championship Game: tOSU 24, LSU 38 (final)

[sluTiger]

If any LSU fans know of a good source for large LSU photos, please drop me a line or post a link in the following thread. Otherwise, if you'd like some wallpaper sized images from the SEC title game, you can also follow this link. I'm collecting these images for our next wallpaper contest, which will feature both teams.

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To be honest his coaching style is so different from any other coach in LSU's history it is hard to determine what to make of it. Miles seems to put a premium on player relationship over extreme discipline like Saban. Also, he lets his coordinators call the shots. At times it looks like he is not paying attention to the defense. My evaluation is the following:

Positives: Very good with players and developing talent. He can recruit the hell out of kids and has brought in some serious talent to LSU. He has testicles the size of asteroids and is not afraid to gamble and take risk. He is a very good offensive minded coach. He is very quick to discipline major off the field occurrences. (i.e. suspending Fransios for the entire regular season and kicking two players off the team) His command of public speaking is very George Bushish and fun to watch. I do not think anyone can question his integrity.

Negatives: Does not demand excellence on the field and the team shows a lack of minor discipline (lots o penalties). Our team commits a lot of presnap mental errors. His clock management and timeout usage is not very good at times and he does not work the refs enough during the game. Sometimes he takes unnecessary risks.

Overall in my opinion, he is a elite coach that has gone 33-6 in the toughest football conference in college football. He is a great coach and Michigan was idiots for not doing what it took to get him there....

 

[yankee_in_texas]

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[buckeyes_rock]

To be honest his coaching style is so different from any other coach in LSU's history it is hard to determine what to make of it. Miles seems to put a premium on player relationship over extreme discipline like Saban. Also, he lets his coordinators call the shots. At times it looks like he is not paying attention to the defense. My evaluation is the following:

Positives: Very good with players and developing talent. He can recruit the hell out of kids and has brought in some serious talent to LSU. He has testicles the size of asteroids and is not afraid to gamble and take risk. He is a very good offensive minded coach. He is very quick to discipline major off the field occurrences. (i.e. suspending Fransios for the entire regular season and kicking two players off the team) His command of public speaking is very George Bushish and fun to watch. I do not think anyone can question his integrity.

Negatives: Does not demand excellence on the field and the team shows a lack of minor discipline (lots o penalties). Our team commits a lot of presnap mental errors. His clock management and timeout usage is not very good at times and he does not work the refs enough during the game. Sometimes he takes unnecessary risks.

Overall in my opinion, he is a elite coach that has gone 33-6 in the toughest football conference in college football. He is a great coach and Michigan was idiots for not doing what it took to get him there....

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but how do you guys feel the loss of Pelini will affect your defense? Above you mentioned that Les doesn't seem to be very involved in the defense and lets his coordinators do the calling. What do you think this will mean if Pelini isn't there. Or heck, even if he does try to coach in the game despite already taking the reigns at Nebraska? Just curious on the discussions in Tiger land.

 

[Tigertracker]

To be honest his coaching style is so different from any other coach in LSU's history it is hard to determine what to make of it. Miles seems to put a premium on player relationship over extreme discipline like Saban. Also, he lets his coordinators call the shots. At times it looks like he is not paying attention to the defense. My evaluation is the following:

Positives: Very good with players and developing talent. He can recruit the hell out of kids and has brought in some serious talent to LSU. He has testicles the size of asteroids and is not afraid to gamble and take risk. He is a very good offensive minded coach. He is very quick to discipline major off the field occurrences. (i.e. suspending Fransios for the entire regular season and kicking two players off the team) His command of public speaking is very George Bushish and fun to watch. I do not think anyone can question his integrity.

Negatives: Does not demand excellence on the field and the team shows a lack of minor discipline (lots o penalties). Our team commits a lot of presnap mental errors. His clock management and timeout usage is not very good at times and he does not work the refs enough during the game. Sometimes he takes unnecessary risks.

Overall in my opinion, he is a elite coach that has gone 33-6 in the toughest football conference in college football. He is a great coach and Michigan was idiots for not doing what it took to get him there....

I agree with what you listed. I am not going to say that Miles is the best coach in college by any means, but I think is is very underrated. I think part of that comes from his style of public speaking, G Bushish as you call it. One thing I like about him is his demeaner on the sidelines. If you watch him, he seems to be genuinely enjoying himself, rather than looking like he is in agony like most other coaches. I think this influences his players and they enjoy playing for him. His willingness to take chances with fakes and 4th downs also show the players he is willing to let it all hang out, and this rubs off on them also. It has also slowed down any rush on LSU punt and FG attempts. :-) His is the most Competitive coach I think we have ever had, but has a very good sense of humor and good relationship with his players. I have always heard that one sign of a good coach is how they make adjustments during the game and at halftime. Anyone that has watched LSU realizes that they have been a second half team all year.
I think his greatest weakness is clock and timeout management, but in fairness, I find that most college coaches are weak in that area. The number of penalities is disturbing and can probably be blamed in 1 or both of our losses this year. Some penalities are to be expected and to some extent, desired. Aggresive teams make some penalities because of that aggresion and can be tolerated, unfortunatly a lot of ours have not been of that variety. It is interesting to note that for the last 2 or 3 years the team that won the SEC also led the conference in penalities. By the way, did anyone notice that in the SEC championship game that Tenn. did not have any penalities? That doesn't happen very often.

 

[JXC]

Not that there could be more incentive to winning this game than beating the SEC and winning a national championship...but right now as far as winning % in in NCAA history goes, we are 5th, but only by thounsanths of a point:

3. Oklahoma .71536
4. Texas .71533
5. Ohio State .71484

On most lists they would all 3 probably look tied at .715. But if somehow ASU would beat Texas, WV would beat OU, and we would take care of business in the Big Easy...then we'd jump into third.

3. Ohio State .71509
4. Oklahoma .71473
5. Texas .71471

Does anybody know if we have ever been third in winning percentage before at any period of time?

 

[sandgk]

Pelini Reportedly WILL be there - Miles Quote

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but how do you guys feel the loss of Pelini will affect your defense? Above you mentioned that Les doesn't seem to be very involved in the defense and lets his coordinators do the calling. What do you think this will mean if Pelini isn't there. Or heck, even if he does try to coach in the game despite already taking the reigns at Nebraska? Just curious on the discussions in Tiger land.

OK - worth quoting the above to clarify this issue.

With Pelini taking the Husker's Head Coach spot it was presumed by some (raises hand) that Pelini might not be running the LSU D.

They (and I) might have to think again on that point.

Pelini will be running the Defense if Miles' guidance to Pelini holds sway. (Yahoo)

LSU defensive coordinator Bo Pelini accepted the head coaching position at Nebraska on Sunday, ending his three-year tenure with LSU.

LSU coach Les Miles said late Sunday evening that Pelini will likely join the Tigers in the BCS National Championship game Jan 7. "I think he will coach the game," Miles said. "We talked about it on the plane ride [from Atlanta]. The thing about a new job is that there is a lot to do, but there is also a lot of downtime in there during a dead-period when you can not recruit."

 

[Tigertracker]

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but how do you guys feel the loss of Pelini will affect your defense? Above you mentioned that Les doesn't seem to be very involved in the defense and lets his coordinators do the calling. What do you think this will mean if Pelini isn't there. Or heck, even if he does try to coach in the game despite already taking the reigns at Nebraska? Just curious on the discussions in Tiger land.

At this time I don't believe that it has been decided yet. Miles and LSU have no problem with Bo coaching in the game, but Michigan may have objections. If he doesn't coach the game, I think it will have little impact. We will lose his expertise on game planning, but that may be offset by slightly different play calling which may make it harder for OSU to determine tendencies.

 

[BuckeyeTillIDie]

That's a stupid move by Pelini to coach in the game, IMO.

He's the HEAD COACH at Nebraska. Shouldn't he put some work into making their defense worth a crap?

 

[sluTiger]

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but how do you guys feel the loss of Pelini will affect your defense? Above you mentioned that Les doesn't seem to be very involved in the defense and lets his coordinators do the calling. What do you think this will mean if Pelini isn't there. Or heck, even if he does try to coach in the game despite already taking the reigns at Nebraska? Just curious on the discussions in Tiger land.

I am not to worried about this either way. I do not think someone gets to Miles's job without knowing both sides of the ball. I do think Pelini is a good DC but not for LSU. If he wants to coach, then let him...

Pelini like to run a more read and react type of defense but LSU has been characterized since 2000 as an attacking defense. I just do not think our guys have been coached in the skills necessary to run BoTepper's defense. LSU's greatest defensive success has been living and dying by the blitz that is the character of our team. Miles needs to get us back to that and soon or he will have problems long-term in Tigertown.

 

[sandgk]

At this time I don't believe that it has been decided yet. Miles and LSU have no problem with Bo coaching in the game, but Michigan may have objections.

I don't thing Michigan gives a rat's ass what Bo Pelini does on Jan 7th.
Nebraska on the other hand :tongue2:

If he doesn't coach the game, I think it will have little impact. We will lose his expertise on game planning, but that may be offset by slightly different play calling which may make it harder for OSU to determine tendencies.

Disagree on that - Bo Pelini coaching provides continuity, no change in style, play-calling nor implementation. These are good things.
You suggest that his absence might change the determination of LSU's tendencies by OSU - I kind of doubt that. If he is absent I would expect (fully) that LSU adopt the outline of Bo's general defensive philosophy - it is what he coached all year. If he is (hypothetically) absent from the championship game LSU cannot really install too many new wrinkles without confusing themselves.
Now, it isn't as if LSU would be left with only slouches to fall back upon - still, Bo there is big, Bo absent then is clearly a minus. Yes, you would lose his game planning expertise, and in-game adaptation, and play-calling throughout.

 

[muffler dragon]

nt

 

[buckeyesin07]

he does not work the refs enough during the game.

I don't know about that one--he seemed to be all over the refs in the Arkansas game. Then again, maybe that game he was unusually active on the sideline.

 

[martinss01]

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but how do you guys feel the loss of Pelini will affect your defense? Above you mentioned that Les doesn't seem to be very involved in the defense and lets his coordinators do the calling. What do you think this will mean if Pelini isn't there. Or heck, even if he does try to coach in the game despite already taking the reigns at Nebraska? Just curious on the discussions in Tiger land.

imo if he stays he does damage. if he leaves and is replaced internally, i don't think there will be any issues or a significant drop of in overall d.

obviously if he stays he has to walk a very tight rope between the old job and the new. i don't think i really need to go into the whys or hows on this board.

if he leaves and is replaced internally... well, we buckeye fans should be very familiar with how easy a transition that can be. lsu is a permier football program. i can't claim to know much about the assistant d coaches. but i have to assume there is considerable talent there and atleast 1 serious candidate for the job. if that person gets the job i see there being little to no impact on lsu's d. just as i have witnessed with tOSU's defense time after time after we have lost d coordinators.

 

[Bleed S & G]

That's a stupid move by Pelini to coach in the game, IMO.

He's the HEAD COACH at Nebraska. Shouldn't he put some work into making their defense worth a crap?

Uh, this is good for us the way i see it.

Look, we're already preparing for 2 QBs, preparing for a defense that we have no idea what they'll bring would make it even more difficult. Now we have a coach who's been there all year with his play calls and tendencies all on film - plus I'm sure the players aren't going to be winning this one for the gipper.

 

[Tigertracker]

Uh, this is good for us the way i see it.

Look, we're already preparing for 2 QBs, preparing for a defense that we have no idea what they'll bring would make it even more difficult. Now we have a coach who's been there all year with his play calls and tendencies all on film - plus I'm sure the players aren't going to be winning this one for the gipper.

Actually I think the players WILL try to win one for the gipper. Bo is very well liked by the players and there are no bad feelings about him leaving. The players and coaching staff are very happy for him, there is no ill will about his leaving. The fact that LSU has asked him to coach the game, in spite of his new job, speaks a lot for how they feel. Most schools would have bid adios to a coach under these conditions.