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Game Thread BCS National Championship Game: tOSU 24, LSU 38 (final)

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GeauxTigers99;1041985; said:
Why would we want to do that?? You just posted all of the stats.

We know we have no shot at winning this game. All the stats prove that OSU is the better team. Add in the huge coaching disadvantage the Tigers have, and we'll be lucky to keep this game w/in 3 TD's. Hell, I can't believe they're letting us play on the same field. :biggrin:
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Finally ! it's about time one of you tiger fans get it right.
 
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sandgk;1042001; said:
I'm sure that will displease LSU fans more so than Buckeye fans.
Though I do think Fox missed the perfect balancing act, to have Charlie Weis or Ron Zook as the counter-analyst to Meyer.
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I'm sure others will bring up that 41-14 score to Meyer. Meyer will play the modest coach, while his co-hosts will be the flamers. Meyer is definitely there to sell the Florida program to recruits. Will he come off as cheesy, self-important, and insincere? Or will it be a masterstroke?
 
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GeauxTigers99;1041985; said:
Why would we want to do that?? You just posted all of the stats.

We know we have no shot at winning this game. All the stats prove that OSU is the better team. Add in the huge coaching disadvantage the Tigers have, and we'll be lucky to keep this game w/in 3 TD's. Hell, I can't believe they're letting us play on the same field. :biggrin:
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ugh. i know this is all tongue in cheek, but i hate these lame passive-agressive responses to legit information. instead of being dismissive of a good point, either concede something or offer some kind of rebuttal. posts like these are just a poor excuse to avoid the topic.

both sides do it, and it's just lame.
 
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Pulled up a few stats for you guys:

DEFENSIVE


Passing -- LSU -- 180.77 ypg .........#9 overall
...........-- OSU -- 148.17 ypg .........#1 overall

Rushing -- LSU -- 103.10 ypg........ #14 overall
...........-- OSU -- 77.10 ypg......... #3 overall

Scoring -- LSU -- 19.60 ppg.......... #21 overall
...........-- OSU -- 10.70 ppg.......... #1 overall

Total D -- LSU -- 283.85 ypg.......... #3 overall
...........-- OSU -- 225.25 ypg......... #1 overall


OFFENSIVE

Passing -- LSU -- 229.20 ypg........... #54 overall
...........-- OSU -- 195.80 ypg.......... #87 overall

Rushing -- LSU -- 218.92 ypg ...........#11 overall
...........-- OSU -- 201.25 ypg ...........#21 overall

Scoring -- LSU -- 38.69 ppg............. #12 overall
...........-- OSU -- 32.0 ppg ..............#36 overall

Total O -- LSU -- 448.15 ypg............ #20 overall
...........-- OSU -- 397.08 ypg ...........#58 overall


TURNOVERS

--LSU-- Lost -- 3 Fumbles, 12 INT's Gain -- 12 Fumbles, 21 INT's ....TOM +18.....TPG-- +1.38 ....#3 overall
--OSU-- Lost -- 7 Fumbles, 12 INT's Gain -- 8 Fumbles, 10 INT's ....TOM -1....TPG-- -0.08 ....#65 overall
 
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Electron Boy;1042028; said:
ugh. i know this is all tongue in cheek, but i hate these lame passive-agressive responses to legit information. instead of being dismissive of a good point, either concede something or offer some kind of rebuttal. posts like these are just a poor excuse to avoid the topic.

both sides do it, and it's just lame.
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sorry for an attempt at light hearted humor. I'll make sure to bring more to the table next time.:cheers:
 
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GeauxTigers99;1042037; said:
Pulled up a few stats for you guys:

DEFENSIVE


Passing -- LSU -- 180.77 ypg .........#9 overall
...........-- OSU -- 148.17 ypg .........#1 overall

Rushing -- LSU -- 103.10 ypg........ #14 overall
...........-- OSU -- 77.10 ypg......... #3 overall

Scoring -- LSU -- 19.60 ppg.......... #21 overall
...........-- OSU -- 10.70 ppg.......... #1 overall

Total D -- LSU -- 283.85 ypg.......... #3 overall
...........-- OSU -- 225.25 ypg......... #1 overall


OFFENSIVE

Passing -- LSU -- 229.20 ypg........... #54 overall
...........-- OSU -- 195.80 ypg.......... #87 overall

Rushing -- LSU -- 218.92 ypg ...........#11 overall
...........-- OSU -- 201.25 ypg ...........#21 overall

Scoring -- LSU -- 38.69 ppg............. #12 overall
...........-- OSU -- 32.0 ppg ..............#36 overall

Total O -- LSU -- 448.15 ypg............ #20 overall
...........-- OSU -- 397.08 ypg ...........#58 overall


TURNOVERS

--LSU-- Lost -- 3 Fumbles, 12 INT's Gain -- 12 Fumbles, 21 INT's ....TOM +18.....TPG-- +1.38 ....#3 overall
--OSU-- Lost -- 7 Fumbles, 12 INT's Gain -- 8 Fumbles, 10 INT's ....TOM -1....TPG-- -0.08 ....#65 overall
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okay thanks, this stuff is actually useful. i bolded the stuff i've been wondering about; LSU has been excellent in turnover margin and in most defensive categories all year. but since this is the case, how are the giving up nearly twice the amount of points per game that OSU is?

i mean, even taking out the overtime points, LSU is givng up 16.7 points a game, and that's helped by only giving up 7 points during the first three games. 34 points to alabama? 27 points to kentucky in regulation? how can you explain this, especially in the second half of the season? is dorsey really that important to the defense where his presence alone accounts for several touchdowns prevented? i'm not going to sit here and say the kid isn't any good, i've got eyes, i've seen him play. he's incredible.

all i'm saying is that it seems like LSU gives up way more points than the other stats suggest they would.
 
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GeauxTigers99;1042037; said:
Pulled up a few stats for you guys:

DEFENSIVE


Passing -- LSU -- 180.77 ypg .........#9 overall
...........-- OSU -- 148.17 ypg .........#1 overall

Rushing -- LSU -- 103.10 ypg........ #14 overall
...........-- OSU -- 77.10 ypg......... #3 overall

Scoring -- LSU -- 19.60 ppg.......... #21 overall
...........-- OSU -- 10.70 ppg.......... #1 overall

Total D -- LSU -- 283.85 ypg.......... #3 overall
...........-- OSU -- 225.25 ypg......... #1 overall


OFFENSIVE

Passing -- LSU -- 229.20 ypg........... #54 overall
...........-- OSU -- 195.80 ypg.......... #87 overall

Rushing -- LSU -- 218.92 ypg ...........#11 overall
...........-- OSU -- 201.25 ypg ...........#21 overall

Scoring -- LSU -- 38.69 ppg............. #12 overall
...........-- OSU -- 32.0 ppg ..............#36 overall

Total O -- LSU -- 448.15 ypg............ #20 overall
...........-- OSU -- 397.08 ypg ...........#58 overall


TURNOVERS

--LSU-- Lost -- 3 Fumbles, 12 INT's Gain -- 12 Fumbles, 21 INT's ....TOM +18.....TPG-- +1.38 ....#3 overall
--OSU-- Lost -- 7 Fumbles, 12 INT's Gain -- 8 Fumbles, 10 INT's ....TOM -1....TPG-- -0.08 ....#65 overall
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This is just me, but unless the teams play the same opponents, the stats - while informative - can be very misleading. And here I am not just saying SOS, but style of play of opponents. Finally, I am not familiar enough with the teams on tOSU schedule to say how, if any, the stats might have been skewed, or if they were. But I am reminded of the MSU-UF game where the Gators had about 400 yards passing. Spurdog said: "They had the number one pass defense coming into the game...they don't leaving it"

MSU had not played a "passing" team all that year. So stats are useful, and also meaningless at the same time.
 
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Gatorubet;1042059; said:
So stats are useful, and also meaningless at the same time.
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I agree to a point, but based over the span of a whole season they are a fairly accurate snapshot of a team. When arguing who has certain advantages, especially when you compare two teams from different conferences, it is probably the best way to compare apples to apples.

As for the stats, they certainly don't always pan out when push comes to shove in the actual game. I guess I just think that when we compare teams they are the most accurate way of trying to get our hands around how it will all shake out. Last year things didn't shake out the way the stats said that they would, but if you go through history........they are pretty accurate in giving hints as to what teams will do in the game.
 
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Electron Boy;1042045; said:
okay thanks, this stuff is actually useful. i bolded the stuff i've been wondering about; LSU has been excellent in turnover margin and in most defensive categories all year. but since this is the case, how are the giving up nearly twice the amount of points per game that OSU is?

i mean, even taking out the overtime points, LSU is givng up 16.7 points a game, and that's helped by only giving up 7 points during the first three games. 34 points to alabama? 27 points to kentucky in regulation? how can you explain this, especially in the second half of the season? is dorsey really that important to the defense where his presence alone accounts for several touchdowns prevented? i'm not going to sit here and say the kid isn't any good, i've got eyes, i've seen him play. he's incredible.

all i'm saying is that it seems like LSU gives up way more points than the other stats suggest they would.
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No, I wouldn't put it all on the fact that Dorsey was injured, although I'm sure it played a small role. Not looking at the stats from the games you mention, and just going off of memory, here's my 2 cents:

Kentucky game -- LSU actually played a pretty good 1st half defensively. The 2nd half was a completely different story. LSU had a chance to put the game away at one point, and our "non-receiving" Tight end whiffed on a pass in the end zone. After that the momentum switched and it seemed like Kentucky could do no wrong. They spread the field w/ 4-5 wide and LSU couldn't stop them.

Alabama game -- I'm not sure if you watched this game or not, but the score is not indicative of the game. Like I said, I haven't looked up the stats for this game, but from memory, LSU seemed to dominate everywhere but the scoreboard. I want to say LSU commited 10-11 penalties w/ something like 130-140 penalty yds. It was a very, very sloppy game. I also remember Alabama had a punt return for a TD and a few big plays that accounted for quite a bit of their yardage.
 
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daddyphatsacs;1042067; said:
Last year things didn't shake out the way the stats said that they would, but if you go through history........they are pretty accurate in giving hints as to what teams will do in the game.
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Which brings up an interesting point for the stat-masters. We know the underdog success rate in this thing...but has the betting line underdog also been the "stat" underdog in those games where the favored team lost?
 
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GeauxTigers99;1042069; said:
Alabama game -- I'm not sure if you watched this game or not, but the score is not indicative of the game. Like I said, I haven't looked up the stats for this game, but from memory, LSU seemed to dominate everywhere but the scoreboard. I want to say LSU commited 10-11 penalties w/ something like 130-140 penalty yds. It was a very, very sloppy game. I also remember Alabama had a punt return for a TD and a few big plays that accounted for quite a bit of their yardage.
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We actually had 14 flags for 130 yards. We gave up the 61 yard punt return for Bama's final score and my fuzzy memory tells me 2 of 3 of Matt's picks set up Bama scores. Total offense wise, we dominated almost 2 to 1.
 
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After more than 2100 posts in 4 weeks, we have clearly beaten this thing to death. We have even talked about the bands. There is nothing left to discuss but school colors.

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[Thump]Purple and Gold are Heaux Meaux[/Thump]

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DaddyBigBucks;1042167; said:
After more than 2100 posts in 4 weeks, we have clearly beaten this thing to death. We have even talked about the bands. There is nothing left to discuss but school colors.
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Our colors are better and give us a slight advantage. IMHO:biggrin: OK... What else?
 
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