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rmjones25
Junior
Way I figure it, we have two chances for a BCS game:
I automatically assume that ND makes a BCS game because of their love from the media and coaches polls. Those two 7's (Harris Poll and USA Today) can (and will) only go up. They will get a huge jump in the BCS as their current computer ranking of 18 will skyrocket (Mainly from losses from Texas Tech, Florida, Wisconsin, maybe Colorado/Georgia--there were others as well.) When you look at who was ahead of ND in each of the polls (and behind tOSU) they seemed to unequivocally suck today.
It's too depressing to analyze exactly how much they will soar, but I'd not be shocked to see a huge leap (including jumping us). Maybe later when I get back from the bars I'll crunch things on a spread sheet. I'd guestimate a jump up to their top-6 holy-grail in the BCS.
Joe Pa and his Lions choke against MSU? This is probably our best shot to get a bid as we'd take the sole lead of the Big-10. If we aren't as lucky as this there is still a shot. We just need to make sure the Big-10 is the only conference to send two teams (which is plausible).
What we need. An Alabama loss to Auburn knocks Alabama behind us (the coaches/polls know the SEC is overrated and a 2 loss 'Bama is worthless). Then LSU needs to win the SEC championship to take their auto-bid (and therefore make
Some extra flair we have going for us:
1. WE are a sexy university as far as traveling and TV money for the hosting bowl game. The Fiesta Bowl (who gets the first selection for an at-large--cough cough Notre Dame--bid) might go for the Fan-base gusto and bring us in.
2. Who is going to play Miami in the Orange Bowl (assuming they win the ACC, and we actually need to root for Miami to win the ACC). VaTech--no--they just played each other? An OSU rematch with Miami makes sense (even if it is in their back yard).
GOD DAMN THE FREAKING BIG EAST SACKS OF CRAP. EVERYONE ROOT FOR West Virginia to choke so that their auto-bid gets revoked in the '06 season (I think they need to end up at 18 at end-of-season to lose it). Worst case we have to put up with another powerful BIG east POS team in a BCS game next year. By '07 its guaranteed they are eliminated (unless the sum of the Big East winner's end BCS rankings this year and next is <=18).
BOTTOM LINE: ALL OF THIS IS MOOT UNLESS WE TAKE CARE OF MICH. Lose to Mich and I see us getting Outback bowl. Worst case Alamo Bowl (San Antonio was a beautiful city, but I can only see it once in my life... God please.) Besides I like the sound of Mich playing in the Motor City Bowl or some other shit-bowl. If we are lucky they can battle University of South Florida or Toledo.
I automatically assume that ND makes a BCS game because of their love from the media and coaches polls. Those two 7's (Harris Poll and USA Today) can (and will) only go up. They will get a huge jump in the BCS as their current computer ranking of 18 will skyrocket (Mainly from losses from Texas Tech, Florida, Wisconsin, maybe Colorado/Georgia--there were others as well.) When you look at who was ahead of ND in each of the polls (and behind tOSU) they seemed to unequivocally suck today.
It's too depressing to analyze exactly how much they will soar, but I'd not be shocked to see a huge leap (including jumping us). Maybe later when I get back from the bars I'll crunch things on a spread sheet. I'd guestimate a jump up to their top-6 holy-grail in the BCS.
Joe Pa and his Lions choke against MSU? This is probably our best shot to get a bid as we'd take the sole lead of the Big-10. If we aren't as lucky as this there is still a shot. We just need to make sure the Big-10 is the only conference to send two teams (which is plausible).
What we need. An Alabama loss to Auburn knocks Alabama behind us (the coaches/polls know the SEC is overrated and a 2 loss 'Bama is worthless). Then LSU needs to win the SEC championship to take their auto-bid (and therefore make
Some extra flair we have going for us:
1. WE are a sexy university as far as traveling and TV money for the hosting bowl game. The Fiesta Bowl (who gets the first selection for an at-large--cough cough Notre Dame--bid) might go for the Fan-base gusto and bring us in.
2. Who is going to play Miami in the Orange Bowl (assuming they win the ACC, and we actually need to root for Miami to win the ACC). VaTech--no--they just played each other? An OSU rematch with Miami makes sense (even if it is in their back yard).
GOD DAMN THE FREAKING BIG EAST SACKS OF CRAP. EVERYONE ROOT FOR West Virginia to choke so that their auto-bid gets revoked in the '06 season (I think they need to end up at 18 at end-of-season to lose it). Worst case we have to put up with another powerful BIG east POS team in a BCS game next year. By '07 its guaranteed they are eliminated (unless the sum of the Big East winner's end BCS rankings this year and next is <=18).
BOTTOM LINE: ALL OF THIS IS MOOT UNLESS WE TAKE CARE OF MICH. Lose to Mich and I see us getting Outback bowl. Worst case Alamo Bowl (San Antonio was a beautiful city, but I can only see it once in my life... God please.) Besides I like the sound of Mich playing in the Motor City Bowl or some other shit-bowl. If we are lucky they can battle University of South Florida or Toledo.
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The SEC upsets today are good for us, with Bama Losing, Georgia losing, and florida losing, there should be no team left in the SEC that can afford to LOSE the championship game and still be picked ahead of us. Now root for Auburn to knock off bama next week.
NotreDame was already way ahead of everyone in the human polls, they cant go up much, they are already way down in the computer polls, but they cant go up much more because of their weak ass end schedule. They will likely get in, but I dont expect their BCS standing to improve much.
Our biggest competition now is going to be Texas or USC with a late loss, or VT.
NotreDame was already way ahead of everyone in the human polls, they cant go up much, they are already way down in the computer polls, but they cant go up much more because of their weak ass end schedule. They will likely get in, but I dont expect their BCS standing to improve much.
Our biggest competition now is going to be Texas or USC with a late loss, or VT.
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scarletngrey11
All right, all right, all right.
Anyone else on here that can help break this down for us retards???
With Bama, Georgie, Texas Tech, and Florida losing today, did our chances improve or get worst?
With Bama, Georgie, Texas Tech, and Florida losing today, did our chances improve or get worst?
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CleveBucks
Serenity now
Our best scenario would've been Bama winning out and taking the SEC auto bid. That would mean 2+ losses for LSU, Auburn, and Georgia. Now Bama has an easy shot at a 1-loss season with another SEC team getting the auto bid. It looks like OSU will have to compete with 1-loss VT, Alabama, and Oregon teams for the last BCS bid, assuming all win out.
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The Bama loss hurt, the other losses were good. We really need to see the next couple of weeks.
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2002UNC
Senior
If Auburn beats Alabama we are ok. Georgia will meet LSU in the title game and the loser will have 2 L's. Auburn-Bama is huge for us.
ND'S Schedule might screw them out of a BCS game. Michigan State losses are killing the domers(MSU will not make a bowl if the lose to PSU). If ND drops out of the top 12 in the BCS they will not be playing in the Fiesta.
ND'S Schedule might screw them out of a BCS game. Michigan State losses are killing the domers(MSU will not make a bowl if the lose to PSU). If ND drops out of the top 12 in the BCS they will not be playing in the Fiesta.
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NOTREDAMECHIEF
Legend
According to local ND sportcasters several bowl rep's have assured them that if ND wins out they are a lock for a BCS bowl. Stanford makes me nervous....
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daddyphatsacs
Let the cards fall...
That's kind of a no-brainer.......even though it's arguable as to who deserves it more between OSU and the Domers. Both of our losses came to top 6 teams. The Domers lost to the #1 team, and an unranked team that may not make a bowl game.
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nothing like bias winning out over logic (not yours, those who did the assuring, who sadly will probably be correct. ND's biggest win will be over a four loss team come next week)
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jenkinswoody
I heart Wendy Peffercorn
ND brings too much money to be passed up- assuming that they win out. IMO we need to root our asses off for Auburn next week. I'm not worried at all about a 1 loss Va Tech or Oregon team (thats where we bring too much money to be passed up).
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ND will probably draw the Big Least champion too, that way they can win that game and everyone will just assume they are the greatest team in the nation.
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SOS (Chief, didn't you once argue that ND's was very very tough???)
Rank Team W L W L W L SOS Quartile Week +/- SOS Diff
7 Ohio State 7 2 45 26 325 295 0.5973 0.28 4 -3 0.12 -0.16
29 Notre Dame 6 2 32 29 299 220 0.5418 1.16 28 -1 2.08 0.92
And Projections:
<CENTER>Projected BCS Schedule Strength
Highest rated team is projected to win all unplayed games.</CENTER>
Last Updated: 08-Nov Opponent Opp-Opp Last CurrentRank Team W L W L W L SOS Quartile Week +/- SOS Diff
1 Michigan 7 4 70 38 649 544 0.6134 0.04 1 0 0.16 0.12
2 Penn State 10 1 68 41 672 516 0.6045 0.08 5 3 0.20 0.12
3 Ohio State 9 2 68 43 668 539 0.5929 0.12 2 -1 0.28 0.16
4 North Carolina 6 5 69 41 625 575 0.5918 0.16 9 5 0.08 -0.08
5 Tennessee 6 5 66 40 613 547 0.5912 0.20 7 2 0.04 -0.16
6 Oklahoma 7 4 65 39 592 549 0.5896 0.24 4 -2 0.12 -0.12
7 Stanford 6 5 65 37 539 584 0.5848 0.28 17 10 0.60 0.32
8 Colorado 9 3 71 48 703 585 0.5797 0.32 10 2 0.64 0.32
9 Texas 12 0 68 47 705 564 0.5794 0.36 13 4 0.48 0.12
10 Minnesota 8 3 65 44 643 544 0.5781 0.40 12 2 0.44 0.04
11 Florida 9 2 65 43 627 555 0.5781 0.44 6 -5 0.68 0.24
12 Virginia Tech 10 1 64 43 634 551 0.5771 0.48 8 -4 0.52 0.04
13 Northwestern 7 4 64 45 659 535 0.5754 0.52 11 -2 0.36 -0.16
14 Alabama 12 0 68 46 659 591 0.5734 0.56 14 0 2.32 1.76
15 Kansas 4 6 61 41 563 547 0.5678 0.60 29 14 1.32 0.72
16 Arkansas 2 8 60 41 552 546 0.5636 0.64 3 -13 0.32 -0.32
17 South Carolina 7 4 62 46 620 543 0.5604 0.68 21 4 0.84 0.16
18 North Carolina St 5 5 60 43 580 560 0.5579 0.72 19 1 0.72 0.00
19 Southern Cal 12 0 66 50 676 605 0.5552 0.76 25 6 1.80 1.04
20 Georgia Tech 7 4 61 47 628 562 0.5525 0.80 42 22 1.44 0.64
21 South Florida 6 4 60 42 533 577 0.5522 0.84 59 38 0.24 -0.60
22 Georgia 10 2 64 51 671 586 0.5490 0.88 16 -6 1.52 0.64
23 Purdue 5 6 60 48 636 554 0.5485 0.92 39 16 0.40 -0.52
24 Miami FL 11 1 65 54 722 604 0.5456 0.96 31 7 1.04 0.08
25 Michigan St 5 6 59 50 664 539 0.5448 1.00 24 -1 2.28 1.28
26 Texas A&M 4 6 56 44 564 539 0.5438 1.04 35 9 2.04 1.00
27 Arizona St 6 5 57 49 637 520 0.5420 1.08 28 1 1.28 0.20
28 Oregon 9 1 55 44 577 544 0.5419 1.12 34 6 0.80 -0.32
29 Iowa 4 6 56 47 602 526 0.5404 1.16 71 42 1.92 0.76
30 Colorado St 7 4 62 49 609 611 0.5388 1.20 26 -4 0.56 -0.64
31 Notre Dame 9 2 58 51 633 530 0.5362 1.24 43 12 1.16 -0.08
</PRE>
Who knows if it works out like the projections. But, lets assume for a moment that it does. Not only has Ohio State lost
</PRE>
to better opponants but they've run to 9-2 (like ND) with a SOS remarkably more difficult.
</PRE>
Rank Team W L W L W L SOS Quartile Week +/- SOS Diff
7 Ohio State 7 2 45 26 325 295 0.5973 0.28 4 -3 0.12 -0.16
29 Notre Dame 6 2 32 29 299 220 0.5418 1.16 28 -1 2.08 0.92
And Projections:
<CENTER>Projected BCS Schedule Strength
Highest rated team is projected to win all unplayed games.</CENTER>
Last Updated: 08-Nov Opponent Opp-Opp Last CurrentRank Team W L W L W L SOS Quartile Week +/- SOS Diff
1 Michigan 7 4 70 38 649 544 0.6134 0.04 1 0 0.16 0.12
2 Penn State 10 1 68 41 672 516 0.6045 0.08 5 3 0.20 0.12
3 Ohio State 9 2 68 43 668 539 0.5929 0.12 2 -1 0.28 0.16
4 North Carolina 6 5 69 41 625 575 0.5918 0.16 9 5 0.08 -0.08
5 Tennessee 6 5 66 40 613 547 0.5912 0.20 7 2 0.04 -0.16
6 Oklahoma 7 4 65 39 592 549 0.5896 0.24 4 -2 0.12 -0.12
7 Stanford 6 5 65 37 539 584 0.5848 0.28 17 10 0.60 0.32
8 Colorado 9 3 71 48 703 585 0.5797 0.32 10 2 0.64 0.32
9 Texas 12 0 68 47 705 564 0.5794 0.36 13 4 0.48 0.12
10 Minnesota 8 3 65 44 643 544 0.5781 0.40 12 2 0.44 0.04
11 Florida 9 2 65 43 627 555 0.5781 0.44 6 -5 0.68 0.24
12 Virginia Tech 10 1 64 43 634 551 0.5771 0.48 8 -4 0.52 0.04
13 Northwestern 7 4 64 45 659 535 0.5754 0.52 11 -2 0.36 -0.16
14 Alabama 12 0 68 46 659 591 0.5734 0.56 14 0 2.32 1.76
15 Kansas 4 6 61 41 563 547 0.5678 0.60 29 14 1.32 0.72
16 Arkansas 2 8 60 41 552 546 0.5636 0.64 3 -13 0.32 -0.32
17 South Carolina 7 4 62 46 620 543 0.5604 0.68 21 4 0.84 0.16
18 North Carolina St 5 5 60 43 580 560 0.5579 0.72 19 1 0.72 0.00
19 Southern Cal 12 0 66 50 676 605 0.5552 0.76 25 6 1.80 1.04
20 Georgia Tech 7 4 61 47 628 562 0.5525 0.80 42 22 1.44 0.64
21 South Florida 6 4 60 42 533 577 0.5522 0.84 59 38 0.24 -0.60
22 Georgia 10 2 64 51 671 586 0.5490 0.88 16 -6 1.52 0.64
23 Purdue 5 6 60 48 636 554 0.5485 0.92 39 16 0.40 -0.52
24 Miami FL 11 1 65 54 722 604 0.5456 0.96 31 7 1.04 0.08
25 Michigan St 5 6 59 50 664 539 0.5448 1.00 24 -1 2.28 1.28
26 Texas A&M 4 6 56 44 564 539 0.5438 1.04 35 9 2.04 1.00
27 Arizona St 6 5 57 49 637 520 0.5420 1.08 28 1 1.28 0.20
28 Oregon 9 1 55 44 577 544 0.5419 1.12 34 6 0.80 -0.32
29 Iowa 4 6 56 47 602 526 0.5404 1.16 71 42 1.92 0.76
30 Colorado St 7 4 62 49 609 611 0.5388 1.20 26 -4 0.56 -0.64
31 Notre Dame 9 2 58 51 633 530 0.5362 1.24 43 12 1.16 -0.08
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Who knows if it works out like the projections. But, lets assume for a moment that it does. Not only has Ohio State lost
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to better opponants but they've run to 9-2 (like ND) with a SOS remarkably more difficult.
</PRE>
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daddyphatsacs
Let the cards fall...
Of the list above, 8 Big Ten teams are above Notre Dame. I guess that is what happens when you play in a good conference.
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