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BCS Chances (El Gigante Merge)

unlikely...

It all comes down to which Drew Stanton decides to show up, will it be the one that played like a Heisman contender the first half of the season and was 21/25 after three quarters against us, or will it be the one that stole his jersey and ran on the field to take on Purdue?<O:p></O:p>
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MSU is about impossible to predict because they play so sporadic, and scoff at the thought of being a consistent football team. Had the national media, not made a clamor over this game and put up the warning flags for Penn State would i maybe give them a chance, but when considering that JoePa has two weeks to prepare for this game, i doubt he'll blow it.<O:p</O:p
 
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John L Smith seems to think that MSU's problems are the result of the playcalling being too conservative.

Tuesday, November 8, 2005

Smith will 'spiff it up' on offense

Spartans might have stalled in recent losses because play-calling was too conservative.

By Dave Dye / The Detroit News

EAST LANSING -- In Michigan State's four losses, the offense has scored 59 points in the first half and 17 in the second half.

Part of the problem could be conservative play-calling in the second half, coach John L. Smith admitted Monday. He said the coaching staff -- including offensive coordinator Dave Baldwin, who calls the plays -- must "change our mind-set a little bit."

Smith wants a balanced offense, but the Spartans have emphasized the run in the second half to the point that some have questioned whether they're playing not to lose instead of to win.

"We have to spiff it up a little bit in the second half more so than we do," Smith said during his weekly news conference. "Let's not get complacent, let's not get conservative. If anything, open it up more. That's us looking at ourselves (as coaches) and trying to make it better. I think it starts with us and carries over to execution."

Injuries to left tackle Stefon Wheeler, who protects quarterback Drew Stanton's blind side, have been a factor in the play-calling.

Wheeler is the team's top pass blocker, but he hasn't been healthy since the Ohio State game, when his rib area was injured. He missed last week's 28-21 loss at Purdue because of a sprained ankle but told Smith he expects to be available for Saturday's game at Minnesota.

When his teams struggled in the past, Smith said his approach was "spread it, throw it, throw it quick, throw it a lot."

It appears he's ready to do that again -- even in the second half.

Emotional appeal

Smith said the team also must play with a higher level of emotion more consistently. He was disappointed to see only one teammate run to the end zone to celebrate with running back Jason Teague after the opening touchdown against Purdue.

Smith was just as dismayed by a lack of excitement in the locker room at halftime after MSU took the lead with 11 seconds remaining on Eric Smith's fumble return, a play that seemingly should have given the Spartans tremendous momentum.

"It's hard to maintain that high-peak emotion (throughout a season)," Smith said. "But as a coach, you really expect it. We have to start demanding it even more."

Injury update

Receiver Kyle Brown, who has missed the last two games because of an injured ankle, is expected to play against Minnesota, Smith said.

Schedule update

MSU's regular-season finale against Penn State at Spartan Stadium on Nov. 19 will be shown by ESPN at 4 p.m.

You can reach Dave Dye at [email protected].
 
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I think the chances of MSU beating PSU are not that bad. As I've said before, PSU is definitely a different team away from Happy Valley. Remember--they've played 3 games away from home this year so far, one they lost (to scUM), one they should have lost (to NW), and the other game they won convincingly against a terrible Illinois team. MSU has shown that it has the talent to play and beat the big boys--it's now just a matter of whether they can get themselves motivated for this game, considering what's happened to them in the last month.
 
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The MSU-PSU talk is great but we need to take care of our own business. We still have to play at Michigan and they're a lot better than their record shows. Wins up there don't come easy for us. If we're complacent with Northwestern they've also got a shot. I hope the team is really focused these last two weeks.
 
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I don't think MSU has a chance to beat Penn State. The Spartans mailed in their season after the blocked FG attempt before the half in the 'Shoe, and John L Smith decided to throw his entire coaching staff under the bus on National TV.

Just a dumb, dumb, move on Smith's part. The kids basically quit on their coaches after that.
are you serious? The guy took complete blame for it after the game. I'm sure you would have had an eloquent, mild, touching speech if they had interviewed you a few minutes after that horrendous coaching blunder occurred.
 
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It seems like we all think we need an out-right Big10 championship to get a BCS bowl? I honestly think that if the Bucks win out, we're in a BCS game. LSU and Virigina Tech will lose again. Hell, even Alabama looks pretty bad lately, and the Buckeyes could easily jump a 1-loss Alabama team. I'd say that even if PSU beat MSU, we'd end the season 5 or 6 in the BCS.

By the way, although I will be rooting for MSU this weekend, would it really be all that bad to have PSU win? Imagine if Alabama, Miami, and (stick with me here) USC all lose. Penn State could end up in the Rose Bowl against Texas! That would be kind of cool, wouldn't it?
 
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Yertle said:
It seems like we all think we need an out-right Big10 championship to get a BCS bowl? I honestly think that if the Bucks win out, we're in a BCS game. LSU and Virigina Tech will lose again. Hell, even Alabama looks pretty bad lately, and the Buckeyes could easily jump a 1-loss Alabama team. I'd say that even if PSU beat MSU, we'd end the season 5 or 6 in the BCS.

By the way, although I will be rooting for MSU this weekend, would it really be all that bad to have PSU win? Imagine if Alabama, Miami, and (stick with me here) USC all lose. Penn State could end up in the Rose Bowl against Texas! That would be kind of cool, wouldn't it?
No!!! Not at all cool. Screw Penn State. I don't even want them to sniff the BCS. I want Ohio State to win the Big 10 outright. I want Ohio State to be the best team in the Big 10 this year. Maybe if it were a team like Indiana, then i'd root for them...just for pity. But I hate Penn State. They are a bunch of ass holes over there, and i'd love to see their BCS dreams crushed against MSU.
 
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jwinslow: "are you serious? The guy took complete blame for it after the game. I'm sure you would have had an eloquent, mild, touching speech if they had interviewed you a few minutes after that horrendous coaching blunder occurred."

Stop. Smith's tirade wasn't a "given." He panicked. You think if the same thing happened to one of Tressel's teams, that he's be busting a vein and cursing his coaching staff to Jack Arute? No way.

If you're the Head Coach, you have to practice some restraint. And the proof is in the pudding. The Spartans haven't shown up to play since that very snap.
 
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No!!! Not at all cool. Screw Penn State. I don't even want them to sniff the BCS. I want Ohio State to win the Big 10 outright. I want Ohio State to be the best team in the Big 10 this year. Maybe if it were a team like Indiana, then i'd root for them...just for pity. But I hate Penn State. They are a bunch of ass holes over there, and i'd love to see their BCS dreams crushed against MSU.

Don't forget, I said I'd like MSU to win this weekend. However, if PSU wins, I'll be pulling for PSU/Texas in the Rose Bowl. I'd like to think that our two narrow defeats were against the two teams playing for the NC.
 
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jwinslow: "are you serious? The guy took complete blame for it after the game. I'm sure you would have had an eloquent, mild, touching speech if they had interviewed you a few minutes after that horrendous coaching blunder occurred."

Stop. Smith's tirade wasn't a "given." He panicked. You think if the same thing happened to one of Tressel's teams, that he's be busting a vein and cursing his coaching staff to Jack Arute? No way.

If you're the Head Coach, you have to practice some restraint. And the proof is in the pudding. The Spartans haven't shown up to play since that very snap.

I don't think that jwins was saying that he agreed with the behavior but rather that the coach had apologized and taken the blame for his outburst. Thus, he is implying that Smith would not have had the total mutiny that is implied elsewhere in the thread.

Sloopy also has a very valid point, though. You can't take back what is said, ever. Words are like a cancer and Smith's assistant coaches will be much less likely to take acceptable risks or to be innovative in their coaching/play-calling in the future. Smith provides an abject lesson in now to not manage people for high performance.

A good manager to emulate? Jim Tressel.
 
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I don't think MSU has a chance to beat Penn State. The Spartans mailed in their season after the blocked FG attempt before the half in the 'Shoe, and John L Smith decided to throw his entire coaching staff under the bus on National TV.
jwinslow: "are you serious? The guy took complete blame for it after the game. I'm sure you would have had an eloquent, mild, touching speech if they had interviewed you a few minutes after that horrendous coaching blunder occurred."

Stop. Smith's tirade wasn't a "given." He panicked. You think if the same thing happened to one of Tressel's teams, that he's be busting a vein and cursing his coaching staff to Jack Arute? No way.

If you're the Head Coach, you have to practice some restraint. And the proof is in the pudding. The Spartans haven't shown up to play since that very snap.
I'm not suggesting it was ok to have an outburst like that. But to suggest he was throwing the other coaches under the bus (which is something you do to take the blame off of yourself) is completely the opposite of what he did. He blamed the coaches, which includes himself, and took all of the responsibility later.

The proof is in the pudding? In the past, I seem to remember sparty underachieving on a regular basis after starting out hot. The team may have lost heart after that play, but it was due to that play, not what the coach said on live TV. What he said was completely accurate, the players were playing great, and the coaches screwed it up.
 
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The Lantern

Buckeyes bowling, location unknown

By: David Briggs

Issue date: 11/9/05 Section: Sports
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Sophomore wide receiver Anthony Gonzalez is brought down from behind by senior defensive back Morris Virgil of Illinois during Ohio State\'s 40-2 win Saturday.

</td> </tr> </table></td></tr></table>A.J. Hawk knows the Buckeyes will be going bowling, but do not bother asking him where. All he knows is that his team is eighth in the Bowl Championship Series rankings and that he has no idea what that means.

"That stuff is so complicated. I don\'t know how it works," the senior linebacker said. "I just don\'t pay any attention to it because it\'s complicated enough for the experts."

Still, those "experts" have taken their shots, having the Buckeyes playing in anywhere from the Outback Bowl in Florida to the ever-familiar Fiesta Bowl in Arizona.

The players and coaches still echo the same refrain: "If we take care of our business, we\'ll be right where we want to be." But it\'s the business the No. 10 Buckeyes have not taken care of, specifically OSU\'s loss at Penn State, that has clouded the picture.

The Buckeyes (7-2, 5-1 Big Ten) have a chance to pull into a tie atop the Big Ten standings with idle Penn State (9-1, 6-1 Big Ten) if they can top No. 25 Northwestern Saturday at Ohio Stadium.

However, the tie would be in name only. If OSU and PSU were both to finish the Big Ten season with one loss, the Nittany Lions would get the conference\'s automatic BCS bowl bid because of the schools\' head-to-head record.

So if OSU wins Saturday, takes care of Michigan in Ann Arbor and Penn State wins its season finale on the road against a spiraling Michigan State team, BCS selection day promises to be interesting.

The only certainty appears to be a Southern California-Texas Rose Bowl matchup for the national title if the two win out. The rest is anybody\'s guess. The winners of the four other conferences (Big 12, Big Ten, Big East and ACC) will receive automatic bowl bids, leaving two at-large spots.

This is where OSU enters the frame. One only has to be in the top 12 of the BCS rankings to be selected as an at-large team. One-loss teams Virginia Tech, LSU and Georgia and two-loss Notre Dame and OSU appear to be the early favorites for those two spots, leaving Antonio Pittman with a simple wish.

"I don\'t know where we\'re going to end up, but I\'m just hoping everyone\'s going to lose," the sophomore tailback said.

That would certainly clear things up a bit, but senior linebacker Bobby Carpenter realizes it is a bit more complex than that.

"You always try to get into the BCS bowl game no matter what, but if Penn State wins out, are we in good enough position to get the BCS berth?" Carpenter asked.

Some say yes. ESPN.com projects Penn State in the Orange Bowl and OSU facing Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl. Collegefootballnews.com has the same matchup. The Fiesta Bowl usually holds a spot for the Big 12 champ, so with Texas likely playing for the title, this is a sensible pick for where the two at-large teams will face off.

For OSU\'s seniors, it would be their third trip to Tempe in four years. Seemingly, OSU would be in no situation to be picky, but Carpenter joked that he would not mind a change in scenery.

"You like a little variety," Carpenter said. "When you go to a nice restaurant, you don\'t want to get the same thing every time, but I\'ll be more than happy to go back there and play a great team."

Other prognosticators do not give Carpenter the opportunity to order that same dish. SportsIllustrated.com sees the Buckeyes facing Florida in the Capital One Bowl, reserved for the Big Ten runner-up, while one senior writer at ESPN.com projects the Buckeyes to drop into the Outback Bowl (Big Ten No. 3).

Senior defensive end Marcus Green dismissed such talk as "a distraction," going back to that familiar coach-speak.

"I could care less what the Web sites are saying," Green said. "We just have to take care of our own business."

Schedule matters

Ohio University has been added to the 2008 home schedule, school officials announced Monday.

OSU has won the five previous meetings between the two schools, including a 40-16 decision in 1999.

Huston has no problem

It was announced Tuesday that Josh Huston is one of 20 semifinalists for this year\'s Lou Groza Award, given annually to the nation\'s best place-kicker.

The sixth-year senior has nailed 16 of 19 field goals this year and is currently riding a streak that has seen him boot 16 straight kickoffs into the end zone for touchbacks, including eight in Saturday\'s win against Illinois.

"Eight touchbacks is something that I\'m not sure I\'ve ever seen," coach Jim Tressel said Tuesday. "Josh has done an excellent job. He\'s one of those feel-good stories, going through two and a half years of injuries and adversities in the deep shadow of a guy like Mike Nugent. You really have to tip your cap to Josh Huston."
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Sophomore wide receiver Anthony Gonzalez is brought down from behind by senior defensive back Morris Virgil of Illinois during Ohio State's 40-2 win Saturday.

</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>A.J. Hawk knows the Buckeyes will be going bowling, but do not bother asking him where. All he knows is that his team is eighth in the Bowl Championship Series rankings and that he has no idea what that means.

"That stuff is so complicated. I don't know how it works," the senior linebacker said. "I just don't pay any attention to it because it's complicated enough for the experts."

Still, those "experts" have taken their shots, having the Buckeyes playing in anywhere from the Outback Bowl in Florida to the ever-familiar Fiesta Bowl in Arizona.

The players and coaches still echo the same refrain: "If we take care of our business, we'll be right where we want to be." But it's the business the No. 10 Buckeyes have not taken care of, specifically OSU's loss at Penn State, that has clouded the picture.

The Buckeyes (7-2, 5-1 Big Ten) have a chance to pull into a tie atop the Big Ten standings with idle Penn State (9-1, 6-1 Big Ten) if they can top No. 25 Northwestern Saturday at Ohio Stadium.

However, the tie would be in name only. If OSU and PSU were both to finish the Big Ten season with one loss, the Nittany Lions would get the conference's automatic BCS bowl bid because of the schools' head-to-head record.

So if OSU wins Saturday, takes care of Michigan in Ann Arbor and Penn State wins its season finale on the road against a spiraling Michigan State team, BCS selection day promises to be interesting.

The only certainty appears to be a Southern California-Texas Rose Bowl matchup for the national title if the two win out. The rest is anybody's guess. The winners of the four other conferences (Big 12, Big Ten, Big East and ACC) will receive automatic bowl bids, leaving two at-large spots.

This is where OSU enters the frame. One only has to be in the top 12 of the BCS rankings to be selected as an at-large team. One-loss teams Virginia Tech, LSU and Georgia and two-loss Notre Dame and OSU appear to be the early favorites for those two spots, leaving Antonio Pittman with a simple wish.

"I don't know where we're going to end up, but I'm just hoping everyone's going to lose," the sophomore tailback said.

That would certainly clear things up a bit, but senior linebacker Bobby Carpenter realizes it is a bit more complex than that.

"You always try to get into the BCS bowl game no matter what, but if Penn State wins out, are we in good enough position to get the BCS berth?" Carpenter asked.

Some say yes. ESPN.com projects Penn State in the Orange Bowl and OSU facing Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl. Collegefootballnews.com has the same matchup. The Fiesta Bowl usually holds a spot for the Big 12 champ, so with Texas likely playing for the title, this is a sensible pick for where the two at-large teams will face off.

For OSU's seniors, it would be their third trip to Tempe in four years. Seemingly, OSU would be in no situation to be picky, but Carpenter joked that he would not mind a change in scenery.

"You like a little variety," Carpenter said. "When you go to a nice restaurant, you don't want to get the same thing every time, but I'll be more than happy to go back there and play a great team."

Other prognosticators do not give Carpenter the opportunity to order that same dish. SportsIllustrated.com sees the Buckeyes facing Florida in the Capital One Bowl, reserved for the Big Ten runner-up, while one senior writer at ESPN.com projects the Buckeyes to drop into the Outback Bowl (Big Ten No. 3).

Senior defensive end Marcus Green dismissed such talk as "a distraction," going back to that familiar coach-speak.

"I could care less what the Web sites are saying," Green said. "We just have to take care of our own business."

Schedule matters

Ohio University has been added to the 2008 home schedule, school officials announced Monday.

OSU has won the five previous meetings between the two schools, including a 40-16 decision in 1999.

Huston has no problem

It was announced Tuesday that Josh Huston is one of 20 semifinalists for this year's Lou Groza Award, given annually to the nation's best place-kicker.

The sixth-year senior has nailed 16 of 19 field goals this year and is currently riding a streak that has seen him boot 16 straight kickoffs into the end zone for touchbacks, including eight in Saturday's win against Illinois.

"Eight touchbacks is something that I'm not sure I've ever seen," coach Jim Tressel said Tuesday. "Josh has done an excellent job. He's one of those feel-good stories, going through two and a half years of injuries and adversities in the deep shadow of a guy like Mike Nugent. You really have to tip your cap to Josh Huston."</td></tr></tbody></table>
 
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"I could care less what the Web sites are saying," Green said. "We just have to take care of our own business."

Thats the perfect mind set. Dont go pulling a Va Tech and bitching about the rankings and shit, only to be firmly knocked on your ass on national tv. We have to go take care of business, everything else is not even close to as important as that. If we win out, we will be in the position that we need to be in to get into a BCS bowl game.
 
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