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Game Thread BCS Championship Game, tOSU vs. Florida - Jan 8th

buckeyeinfla;702822; said:
yeah..but the people down here in florida really believe they are going to beat osu by 2 TD's

I think that Ohio State will win. However, I'm not about to start calling anyone's predictions "stupid," regardless of how silly they seem at this moment. That's mainly because I've proven time and again that my predictions are typically worse than a monkey trying to pass as a bartender. (And some might say that my analogies are even worse!)
 
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TheMightyQuinn;702775; said:
I just watched the UF preview of the NC on FCS Atlantic. They think their running game is even with ours because they average 1 more yard per carry on 1st down. I think X-rayRandy found a new job.

I can tell you where they got that worthless stat from. Down here in the "Sunshine State", there is a cable sports channel called the "Sunshine Sports Network" or something to that effect. They have done a preview of the NC game that has been running every other day or so for the last 3 weeks (at least). That show is where the "1 more yard per carry on 1st down" stuff comes from.

As one of BP's local stat geeks, one thing that I feel especially qualified to comment on is the proper use of statistics. XRAYrandy is a great example of someone who has no flippin' clue of how to derive meaning from numbers. It was prescient of you to observe that the Gator attempt to draw conclusions from this stat is the same kind of error.

This error is borne of the assumption that all 1st downs are created equal. This is simply not the case.

One of the few things that I didn't keep stats on this year was the number of times that I observed that Ohio State passed liberally on first down until they had a lead, and then ran almost exclusively on first down after building a comfortable lead. Running right at a defense that knows you're going to run is a very different thing than running a reverse at a team that you're trailing by 3.


While this adequately explains that OSU is better at rushing on 1st down than the season-long stats indicate; it is only a part of a much larger point. And that point is:
It is simply not possible to quantify the amount of untapped potential that Ohio State's offense has left on the field this year. Perhaps more accurately, the untapped potential cannot be quantified in a way that would be interesting, and it's effect within the context of our schedule strength would be extremely difficult to quantify meaningfully.​


Jim Tressel did not care about style points in 2002 when we would have been left out of a title game if there had been 3 undefeated teams. So how much more potential is left untapped as he manages a season with a much more powerful offense and with a team that is ranked #1 in the preseason?​
This is why my stats focus on things that I find interesting. This is why I'm not a betting man. The outcome of a game is a simple, efficient, effective and more importantly an interesting means of determining the relative strength of teams. While the game is a single data point, and it may be several sigma outside the mean of numerous contests between the two schools, it is the only data that matters.

The team with more points at the end of the game will hoist the crystal football. Troy Smith and Jim Tressel know what it takes to make that happen. While this doesn't guarantee victory, it is as close as any team can get to it this year.

And it is a more meaningful fact than any set of numbers will ever be.
 
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buckeyeinfla;702822; said:
yeah..but the people down here in florida really believe they are going to beat osu by 2 TD's

They also believe the south will rise again, camouflage can be either casual or formal wear, and the males continue to refer to their fathers as "Daddy" well after their 10th birthday. So take their opinions for what they are worth.

Remember folks, the 2 main exports from the south are Lynard Skinnard and the toothbrush(we know it was invented down here because if it were invented anywhere else it would be called a teethbrush).

These mouth breathers are for amusement purposes only, not to be taken seriously.
 
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ant80;702709; said:
Is BP going to do a preview of this game like all before? If so, has it already been posted?

Patience darlin........patience.:wink2:

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Dispatch

Teamwork matters most in awarding Buckeye leaves
Tuesday, January 02, 2007
Dennis Fiely
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH


Ted Ginn Jr. spent the 2006 season catching passes, returning kicks and raking in leaves.
The junior leads the Ohio State football team with 99 Buckeye leaves ? the famed stickers that decorate the headgear of players. "My helmet was full after the Northwestern game," Ginn said. "But some people think I cheat because my head is not so big."

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Dispatch

NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
Gators put positive spin on rotating QBs
Freshman Tebow spells Leak in running situations
Tuesday, January 02, 2007
Rob Oller
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH


GAINESVILLE, Fla. ? The typical family holiday gathering, where the cute toddler attracts attention while the tepid teenager attracts sarcasm, pretty much describes Florida?s quarterback controversy. Of course, the Gators no longer consider it a controversy. Senior Chris Leak is the starter and freshman Tim Tebow subs only in specific situations. Period. End of story.

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Dispatch

OHIO STATE FOOTBALL
Buckeyes able to enjoy familiar surroundings
Tuesday, January 02, 2007
Ken Gordon
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH


Among those glued to their television sets Nov. 18, cheering for Ohio State against Michigan, was the staff of the Scottsdale Princess resort hotel. "Oh, absolutely. The e-mails were flying back and forth among the staff, we were so excited to be welcoming Ohio State back," said Patti Peppin-Benner, the conference planning manager for the Princess. "They?re a great group of people, and it?s like my good friends are coming back."

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Dispatch

OHIO STATE NOTEBOOK
Buckeyes to take over Sooners? digs
Tuesday, January 02, 2007
Tim May
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH


GLENDALE, Ariz. ? Topranked Ohio State and Oklahoma were like two juggernauts passing each other last night. The Buckeyes, a week away from their national championship game vs. Florida, took in Oklahoma?s Fiesta Bowl matchup against Boise State in University of Phoenix Stadium. This morning, they will move to the Scottsdale Princess resort, where the Sooners stayed.

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Canton

Tressel, Meyer differ in style, share success
Tuesday, January 2, 2007
By Todd Porter REPOSITORY SPORTS WRITER



SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. - For more than 20 minutes, Jim Tressel sat behind a lectern and answered questions two weeks ago. He rarely smiled, never winked, never raised his voice, and hardly laughed ? even at his own jokes. Ohio State?s head coach was composed, almost robot-like in his statements. Presumably, the 54-year-old coach had a pulse.

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CPD

Familiar setting warms OSU


Tuesday, January 02, 2007 Doug Lesmerises
Plain Dealer Reporter
Scottsdale, Ariz.- The 11 palm trees ringing the fountain outside the lobby entrance, the five heated pools, the seven tennis courts, the five restaurants, the seven lounges and the quail hopping through the brush on 450 acres of desert luxury will welcome Ohio State today when the Buckeyes move into the Fairmont Scottsdale Princess resort and get down to bowl preparation.
With the national championship game six days away, the Buckeyes will treat today as a typical Sunday during the season, which means meetings but no practice.

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