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Just sayin': There needs to be an asterisk.

Indiana's Curt Cignetti w/shots fired at SEC: "We don't run a hype machine up here in the Midwest. We believe everything is earned, not given. When we fall short, we say we fall short. When we don't win, we don't cry a river. We don't whine & complain.* That's why we're the best."

* except (of course) for Penn State.

:lol:
 
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Just sayin': There needs to be an asterisk.

Indiana's Curt Cignetti w/shots fired at SEC: "We don't run a hype machine up here in the Midwest. We believe everything is earned, not given. When we fall short, we say we fall short. When we don't win, we don't cry a river. We don't whine & complain.* That's why we're the best."

* except (of course) for Penn State.

:lol:
and TTUN... :ohbrother:
 
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Just sayin': In all fairness to TTUN, yeah, they complained some about the NCAA sign stealing investigation; however, they aren't the habitual whinners and complainers that Penn State are. With that being said, TTUN are definitely habitual liars and cheaters though.
They still bitch and moan about the 4th down spot from 2016 and that game overall. They are very much whiny bitches
 
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They still bitch and moan about the 4th down spot from 2016 and that game overall. They are very much whiny bitches

Yeah, they did whine about that game:

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However, it in the history of the rivalry it didn't use to be like that. I can remember a time when the head coaches at the 2 schools were actually good friends and respected each other:

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Yeah, they did whine about that game:

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However, it in the history of the rivalry it didn't use to be like that. I can remember a time when the head coaches at the 2 schools were actually good friends and respected each other:

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I think the respect the coaches had for one another died when Carr moved on from scUM. RichRod came off as a pompous blowhard who was going to revolutionize football with his slot dots and spread wide offense.
cHoke took it to another level when he started the whole Ohio thing, and then the hatred was turned to 11, and Urban stoked those flames and loved every minute of it.
 
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I think the respect the coaches had for one another died when Carr moved on from scUM. RichRod came off as a pompous blowhard who was going to revolutionize football with his slot dots and spread wide offense.
cHoke took it to another level when he started the whole Ohio thing, and then the hatred was turned to 11, and Urban stoked those flames and loved every minute of it.
Yeah, you might be right.
November, 2006, Bo Schembechler (spelling?) passed away and we had a moment of silence in Ohio Stadium.
We might do the same for Lloyd Carr.
No way we do it for RRod, Hoke, Harbaugh, or whats-his-name.

There's definitely a different feel toward *ichigan lately. At least, for me. There was a respectful hatred for them for a long time. It was declining into a disrespectful hatred throughout the 2010's. Their ducking of their ass-beating may have finished it off. I don't think the cheating scandal affected it - the respect was already gone.
 
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I think the respect the coaches had for one another died when Carr moved on from scUM. RichRod came off as a pompous blowhard who was going to revolutionize football with his slot dots and spread wide offense.
cHoke took it to another level when he started the whole Ohio thing, and then the hatred was turned to 11, and Urban stoked those flames and loved every minute of it.

I've always felt like the fans went to real, actual hate and not grudging respect due to the shit we had to listen to during the Cooper years.

The Woody/Bo era guys seem to have some semblance of respect for tsun.

I have never known anything but pure, naked, burning hate.

No way you ever get the genie back in the bottle now after our 20 year of dominance and then the cheating bullshit.

Two different tribes that stone flat HATE each other. There is no respect. There is no common ground.

Fuck *ichigan.
 
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