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Automatic or manual transmission?

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scott91575 said:
If I was in the area you could drive mine. It's a corporate lease that I keep a max of 12 months. Every time I have a manual I let people grind the gears and burn the cluth all they want. Doesn't cost me a dime.

I luckily learned on test vehicles during an internship. When I brought the vehicles inside the whole lab smelled of burnt clutch.
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Ha... I could have become proficient on brand-new BMWs, but somehow didn't think that was a great idea. I just limited myself to getting them into a parking space (and usually stalling there). Actually, more often than not, one of the guys who washed the cars would keep an eye out when I came back with customers, and park it for me. I bribed him with lunches from Taco Bell. :biggrin:
 
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I think there should be a nationwide law that people under 20 drive manuals. It will teach you to pay attention when driving, instead of talking on your cellphone and fixing your hair and changing the radio station all at once. That's my opinion. Most poeple my age that learn stick never want to go back to auto also, or so I've seen.
 
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Manual for the reasons already stated: much more fun, better on snow and ice, better gas mileage, cheaper, etc.

As for replacing clutches, I have been driving manual transmissions for over 20 years and never replaced a clutch. My last car, which I just donated last Friday, had 150,000 miles on it and the original clutch. A clutch can and should last a long time as long as one doesn't ride it.
 
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Thump said:
Ballers.:biggrin:
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fags buy sporstcars/musclecars with automatics. Nothing is more disappointing than walking thru an auto show and seeing a classic mustang or corvette, and then seeing the gay automatic.

When I have the money to afford it, I will probably get an automatic car that I drive more often, and a manual fun car that i keep for 20+ years.
 
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if i had to take someone to the hospital, i could probably drive a stick. otherwise, im automatic. i dont need to prove my manhood by owning a car with a manual transmission. besides, its too hard to drive a manual while talking on my cell, eating, and changing the radio station all at once. i only have two hands.:tongue2:
 
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Thump said:
You know there's a reason they came up with automatic transmission, it's easier. Also, I never have to pay to have my clutch replaced.
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auto's are the aol of the driving world. they are for people who don't have the motor coordination to drive a stick.

The only person who should be driving a manual is someone who does lots of pulling, farmers, truck drivers etc...
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or someone who wants more fuel efficiency from their vehicle, or more power, or more control. you know... the unimportant things. on average a stick will put 5 to 10% more whp/wtq to the ground than an auto.

And as far as sticks being easier to get out of the snow, whatever. Automatics have 1st and 2nd gear just like sticks. I've done both and automatics are easier in my opinion.
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sticks being easier is an incorrect statement. the real reason a stick is "easier" to get out of a difficult situation is because a person used to driving a stick is going to be more comfortable doign things like manually changing gears on their own. i would venture a guess that 90% of all persons who have only owned auto's would be completely incapable of say rocking their car out of an ice hole. you seem to have considerable experience with sticks. because of this you are comfortable changing the gears manually in your auto. i would venture to guess that the only reason you are so comfortable doing so is because of your past experience with sticks. not because of your past experience with auto's.

those who drive sticks are safer/better drivers. you have to pay far more attention to what you are doing, where you are going, and how you intend to get there than someone driving an auto. why? because of all of the things you seem to hate so much. changing gears. i have to know what my current situation is in order to be in the proper gear. otherwise im banging off the rev limiter or bogging down the engine. i also have to know where im going in order to properly shift to the correct gear to get me there. whereas an auto driver simply points their vehicle in the direction they wish to travel and pushes the gas pedal. this watered down version of driving disassociates the driver from what they are doing and the fact that there are consiquences to actions thereby making them less safe. furthermore, the time and attention that driving a stick requires generally makes it more difficult to do stupid shit you shouldn't do while driving. like talking on a cell phone, putting on makeup, reading a newspaper, eating, beating your children, etc...

oh and btw, i can't stand auto's. both my cars are sticks.

*cough* 146k on my ranger with original clutch and tranny...*cough*

deety, this might sound odd. but if you want to learn to drive a stick do so in a vehicle with a big v8. the clutch might be harder for you to push down, but the engine will be far more forgiving.
 
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martinss01 said:
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deety, this might sound odd. but if you want to learn to drive a stick do so in a vehicle with a big v8. the clutch might be harder for you to push down, but the engine will be far more forgiving.
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If I could give you a great post award, I would. Maybe that's why I can't...hmmm.
Anyways, don't learn on a Honda, unless it's your Honda. It's just too easy to shift, and when you try to drive a different car (esp. domestic trucks) you will be real shitty.
 
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reading about clutch or automatic superiority is hilarious. one is not better than the other. i live in an area where traffic is stop-and-go (westchester county, ny... with plenty of nyc driving), and choosing a manual is largely asinine. sure, if it's a sports car that you're driving, manual makes much more sense and is much more fun; otherwise, driving a stick is cumbersome.

as a side note, a state that does not require drivers to where cellphone earpieces is way behind the curve
 
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OSU_Buckguy said:
reading about clutch or automatic superiority is hilarious. one is not better than the other. i live in an area where traffic is stop-and-go (westchester county, ny... with plenty of nyc driving), and choosing a manual is largely asinine. sure, if it's a sports car that you're driving, manual makes much more sense and is much more fun; otherwise, driving a stick is cumbersome.

as a side note, a state that does not require drivers to where cellphone earpieces is way behind the curve
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Stop and go traffic isn't a deterrent to a manual, IMO.
States that legislate how I can talk on my phone are on the wrong curve.
 
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OSU_Buckguy said:
as a side note, a state that does not require drivers to where cellphone earpieces is way behind the curve
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to my knowledge there is no proof to indicate that holding an inanimate object in your hand is more of tax on your attention span than begging your gf to not break up with you over the phone. isn't it just easier to pull over if the conversation is that critical? and if it isn't... how about waiting until your no longer operationg a hunk of metal weighing well over 2k pounds at high speeds? very few conversations in the history of mankind have ever been so important as to risk the lives of so many.

it often amazes me the selfperceived importance people tend to place on otherwise arbitrary tasks like a 2 min conversation on what they need from the store. seriously, your going to be in the parking lot in 5 min, isn't it easier to stop and then ask your wife what she needs you to pick up on the way home?
 
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FindlayBucks said:
Stop and go traffic isn't a deterrent to a manual, IMO.
States that legislate how I can talk on my phone are on the wrong curve.
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no, stop-and-go traffic is a deterrent to a manual -- by definition of deterrent. if stop-and-go traffic were a deterrent to driving with a manual, automatics would be far less popular for city driving.

well, if there are going to be idiots who attempt to drive a manual and talk on the cellphone without an earpiece, states absolutely have the right to legislate how one uses a cellphone. states are not infringing the rights of the cellphone user. one can still talk on a cellphone.
 
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