Anti-trust lawsuit against NCAA

[buckeyebri]

This mostly sounds like various forms of economic compensation. And as far as "medical coverage for injuries", has there ever been a case where a football player or basketball player was injured in a team activity and did not receive medical treatment?

My take on this, and I am not putting words in his mouth, is that this is along the lines of long term injury care beyond their career at the school. So, thinking about long term concussion issues and impacts.

 

[OH10]

Outline of 11 issues the college football players' union expects to bargain for and about (none of which will bring about the destruction of college football as we know it):

http://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...8/college-football-players-union-pay-for-play

But doom and gloom away people...

 

[buckeyebri]

And we have big-wig boosters trying to line the pockets of recruits daily... since before I was born. Yet college football is still here. And bigger than ever.

But, yes, let's only discuss why we think unions will destroy a sport that has survived all the other bull[Mark May] over the years.

So, you don't think that if a team unionizes and a player is not performing and the school wants to yank their scholarship, which occurs, that the union won't step in?

 

[OH10]

And all of those issues deserve some attention - certainly more attention that they've been getting from the multi-million dollar coaches and administrators who run this so-called 'non profit.'

 

[OH10]

So, you don't think that if a team unionizes and a player is not performing and the school wants to yank their scholarship, which occurs, that the union won't step in?

Um, I hope they do. Aren't we the ones always making fun of Alabama for over-signing and cutting players because it's wrong?

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

Heard something interesting this morning. When/if they get declared as employees then the value of that scholarship becomes taxed, so you could have students looking at a very large tax bill from the IRS

 

[buckeyebri]

Um, I hope they do. Aren't we the ones always making fun of Alabama for over-signing and cutting players because it's wrong?

We does not equal me in this instance.

 

[buckeyebri]

Heard something interesting this morning. When/if they get declared as employees then the value of that scholarship becomes taxed, so you could have students looking at a very large tax bill from the IRS

Or their parents...

 

[OH10]

We does not equal me in this instance.

So now cutting players who do everything in the classroom and in practice that they're asked to do just because you scouted their talent incorrectly is ok?

Wow, that scholarship is really worth a whole lot when you give it to someone for one year and then tell them good luck paying for the rest of your degree somewhere else. Awesome value!

 

[Onebuckfan]

So now cutting players who do everything in the classroom and in practice that they're asked to do just because you scouted their talent incorrectly is ok?

Wow, that scholarship is really worth a whole lot when you give it to someone for one year and then tell them good luck paying for the rest of your degree somewhere else. Awesome value!

I am assuming everything will have to be collectively Bargained..just like in the NFL or no?

 

[OH10]

Heard something interesting this morning. When/if they get declared as employees then the value of that scholarship becomes taxed, so you could have students looking at a very large tax bill from the IRS

Isn't this the conundrum?

Some people say, "pay the players." Then the other side says, "They do get paid in the form of a scholarship." Then the players say, "Hey, yeah, we do get paid in the form of a scholarship." And we all say 'good luck with that.' Hilarious irony all around.

 

[OH10]

I am assuming everything will have to be collectively Bargained..just like in the NFL or no?

Yes. The 11 issues outlined above affect all the players so it's in everybody's best interest to have collective bargaining. Unless you want to negotiate funding for concussion research on an individual basis... which would be quite interesting.

 

[buckeyebri]

So now cutting players who do everything in the classroom and in practice that they're asked to do just because you scouted their talent incorrectly is ok?

Like I said prior, go back to true "student-athletes" and minor leagues.

Wow, that scholarship is really worth a whole lot when you give it to someone for one year and then tell them good luck paying for the rest of your degree somewhere else. Awesome value!

It is worth whatever education they get out of it. Carrying a 6 figure college debt is nothing to sneeze at believe me. I have a friend whose son is playing soccer for MSU and he is playing on the promise that he will get half of his junior and senior year paid for.

 

[Onebuckfan]

Yes. The 11 issues outlined above affect all the players so it's in everybody's best interest to have collective bargaining. Unless you want to negotiate funding for concussion research on an individual basis... which would be quite interesting.

Is it confined to those 11 issues or will everything be bargained.

 

[OH10]

It is worth whatever education they get out of it. Carrying a 6 figure college debt is nothing to sneeze at believe me. I have a friend whose son is playing soccer for MSU and he is playing on the promise that he will get half of his junior and senior year paid for.

That's hilarious. "Here, have this one year of education and go get a job. Or take out a loan like every other student. But don't do it here at Alabama because we don't really want you here anymore now that we see you aren't very good at football even though you've spent the last year banging your head around for the program. And good luck getting into another school because you should know that we had to bend our admission requirements just to get you in. But, hey, you got one year of general education so there's, um, that. Peace!"