5 players suspended for 5 games in 2011 regular season (Appeal has been denied)

[kentuckbuck]

This may have 0 relation, but I think the information matches up interestingly.

My buddy and I had some extra 2010 Pro Combat jerseys we posted on craigslist to sell. We were approached by a guy who wanted to buy 6 of them. He claimed he was friends with some of the players and wanted to get the jerseys signed as gifts for his family members.

We were semi hesitant but did some research and found his twitter ID was @Finelineinkusa where he had communicated with TP so it seemed legit. This was early last week. We haven't heard back from him since.

I hate when I have 10 extra buckeye jerseys...and then all the time I waste making sure they go to a good home...looks like we're in the same boat.

 

[Tlangs]

If Auburn taught us anything....deny deny deny and you will be fine.

[don't actually do this]
Just say "I paid cash for my tatoo." If the IRS is involved, the tatoo parlor was obvisoulsy under reporting cash receipts.

If they say well this artist has an autograph. Just say, "I sign autographs all the time for my fans. After he was done with the tatoo he asked me to sign his Jersey. I get my haircut, pay for it, then sign an autograph for the barber. I ate at applebes yesterday. The waitress asked me to sign her OSU jersey that she had out in the car. Durring fall camp, I signed about a thousand autographs at the open practice." [/don't actually do this]

 

[Poe McKnoe]

Good news.

I don't see a Corvette out front so TP must be cleared.

 

[Onebuckfan]

If I was to violate NCAA rules and risk losing my elligibilty it would not be for a tat..maybe a remodeling of my dad's church or an Escalade..not a TAT!

 

[Tlangs]

look at this shaggy bevo poster:

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

I understand that there needs to be rules and, to the extent possible, clearly defined rules at that. But...

I'm not a scholarship football player. I wasn't a scholarship football player when I went to OSU. None-the-less, I have received "benefits" just because of who I am. For example, when I was at Ohio State, I was able to take a final exam via fax while I sat on a beach in Florida. This didn't happen because I played football, it happened because I asked for it.

Nowadays, I receive "benefits" like free lunches or the like from time to time. And why? Because of my job. I realize this is more "apples to oranges" than a sound argument/position... but... fuck an A... If Terrelle Pryor walks in to my barber shop and I decide to give him a free haircut... what goddamned difference does it make? It's my business, no? I could decide to give you a free hair cut... or a free burger... or whatever.... and businesses make these decisions all the time for one reason or another.

Again - I get that lines need to be drawn and the lines on improper benefits have been so drawn. Just seems silly. In the wake of the Cam Newton thing... well.. it just makes the NCAA and its rules lose more credibility. In my opinion.

All that said... rules are rules.. and regardless of what Auburn did with Newton... I expect that Ohio State will play by the rules. If there has been improper benefits, under the NCAA rules, then appropriate consequences should be anticipated. And ESPN, Herby, etc.. can say whatever they want... "integrity" doesn't sell, so... I'd expect more screw turning from the "mother ship"

 

[Esoteria]

Yes, you are saying I'm making something up and that's cool. I've got nothing to prove here. I don't leverage my NCAA contact for the purpose of coming onto forums and bragging about what I know. All I know is that it's not just internal and there's more to it than tattoos. Whether that translates to suspensions, no idea. I'm waiting for more details just like everyone else. Your skepticism is justified.

Scepticism lies in fact. Here are the facts so far.
1) IRS was investing Fine Link Ink regarding financial issues
2) FBI raids Fine Link Ink in connection with IRS investigation.
3) Signed OSU memorabilia were found, including current players.
4) Tattoo Parlor shop owner claims they were given to him for free to cover costs of services performed.
5) Terrelle Pryor, Dan Herron, DeVier Posey, Chris Fields, Nate Oliver, Travis Howard, Mike Adams, Jonathan Newsome, Michael Brewster and Jordan Hall are the names mentioned so far.
5a) Terrelle Pryor denies his involvement - http://twitter.com/#!/TPeezy2/status/17780798866329600
5b) Michael Brewster denies his involvement - http://twitter.com/#!/Brewster50/status/17813845468774400
6) If two of the players are incorrectly accused, then it stands to reason that this story is more BS then fact.

If he didn't want to put up with them, he could have just paid his way to school and used its facilities to train himself to be a NFL prospect.

Do you really think that a high school athlete can take 3 years off from football before declaring for the draft and actually get drafted because he's still physically fit, but with only high school football experience?

 

[Bestbuck36]

Two things:

Fuck the NCAA. Fuck the IRS!

Two criminal organizations that need abolished sooner rather than later. Somehow, these organizations have had their "guidelines" incorporated into law and enforced as such.

Again, I say Fuck em.

Now, lets play some football!!

 

[Esoteria]

look at this shaggy bevo poster:

What about me? lol.

 

[DaveyBoy]

Do you really think that a high school athlete can take 3 years off from football before declaring for the draft and actually get drafted because he's still physically fit, but with only high school football experience?

That's precisely my point. If one wants to argue that the athletes are getting the shaft due to amateurism then they need to point out the value that they are getting by attending big time programs like Ohio State. My point is people can't claim that the athletes are slave labor while simultaneously admitting that the athletes are using the university to position themselves for a bigger payday down the road.

 

[Tlangs]

Scepticism lies in fact. Here are the facts so far.
1) IRS was investing Fine Link Ink regarding financial issues
2) FBI raids Fine Link Ink in connection with IRS investigation.
3) Signed OSU memorabilia were found, including current players.
4) Tattoo Parlor shop owner claims they were given to him for free to cover costs of services performed.
5) Terrelle Pryor, Dan Herron, DeVier Posey, Chris Fields, Nate Oliver, Travis Howard, Mike Adams, Jonathan Newsome, Michael Brewster and Jordan Hall are the names mentioned so far.
5a) Terrelle Pryor denies his involvement - http://twitter.com/#!/TPeezy2/status/17780798866329600
5b) Michael Brewster denies his involvement - http://twitter.com/#!/Brewster50/status/17813845468774400
6) If two of the players are incorrectly accused, then it stands to reason that this story is more BS then fact.



Do you really think that a high school athlete can take 3 years off from football before declaring for the draft and actually get drafted because he's still physically fit, but with only high school football experience?

OSU memorabilia located in a business in Columbus....stop the presses. There was a signed AJ Hawk jersey at a BWs in Dayton when he was at OSU, I wonder if he was given free wings for that Jersey!!!!111

Also, I'm assuming the IRS is investigating issues with their recordkeeping. Isn't it easier to say they were never paid cash for all these tatoos to cover for skimming money off the top. My scarlet glasses say it is self preservation by the tatoo shop owner.

 

[Esoteria]

OSU memorabilia located in a business in Columbus....stop the presses. There was a signed AJ Hawk jersey at a BWs in Dayton when he was at OSU, I wonder if he was given free wings for that Jersey!!!!111

Also, I'm assuming the IRS is investigating issues with their recordkeeping. Isn't it easier to say they were never paid cash for all these tatoos to try and hide the missing cash than to say they were paid cash but have no record of it thus making them guilty of skimming money off the top. My scarlet glasses say it is self preservation by the tatoo shop owner.

That was pretty much my point ... his saying he received jerseys for services was to cover up the fact that he performed services off the book.

 

[Onebuckfan]

I understand that there needs to be rules and, to the extent possible, clearly defined rules at that. But...

I'm not a scholarship football player. I wasn't a scholarship football player when I went to OSU. None-the-less, I have received "benefits" just because of who I am. For example, when I was at Ohio State, I was able to take a final exam via fax while I sat on a beach in Florida. This didn't happen because I played football, it happened because I asked for it.

Nowadays, I receive "benefits" like free lunches or the like from time to time. And why? Because of my job. I realize this is more "apples to oranges" than a sound argument/position... but... fuck an A... If Terrelle Pryor walks in to my barber shop and I decide to give him a free haircut... what goddamned difference does it make? It's my business, no? I could decide to give you a free hair cut... or a free burger... or whatever.... and businesses make these decisions all the time for one reason or another.

Again - I get that lines need to be drawn and the lines on improper benefits have been so drawn. Just seems silly. In the wake of the Cam Newton thing... well.. it just makes the NCAA and its rules lose more credibility. In my opinion.

All that said... rules are rules.. and regardless of what Auburn did with Newton... I expect that Ohio State will play by the rules. If there has been improper benefits, under the NCAA rules, then appropriate consequences should be anticipated. And ESPN, Herby, etc.. can say whatever they want... "integrity" doesn't sell, so... I'd expect more screw turning from the "mother ship"

I agree with you..to me did the players say would you take an autograph for a tat or did the players plan on paying but the owner wanted the autograph in lieu of cash..big difference in my book...

 

[Tlangs]

What about me? lol.

I haven't seen Lloyd Sevs name in awhile. Are you the infamous Lloyd Sev?

 

[OH10]

Also, I'm assuming the IRS is investigating issues with their recordkeeping. Isn't it easier to say they were never paid cash for all these tatoos to cover for skimming money off the top. My scarlet glasses say it is self preservation by the tatoo shop owner.

And so here's the rub in that situation: someone is lying and we don't know who. The parlor owner obviously would have a strong reason to implicate the players if he felt it would protect him from the IRS. The players (in this case, being TP and Brewster) would obviously have a strong reason to lie to protect themselves and their future from suspension/potential character issues for the NFL.

This is all assuming, of course, that Pryor and Brewster have actually been implicated by the owner.

Make no mistake about it, I don't want this shit to be true. If it is true, then I expect Ohio State to suspend them for the Sugar Bowl. Precedent has been set with Troy Smith/Alamo Bowl AND I do appreciate that my alma mater takes proactive rather than reactive measures to NCAA violations - irregardless of whether the media will give them credit for it.