5 players suspended for 5 games in 2011 regular season (Appeal has been denied)

[WolverineMike]

Obviously not.....but that's not the point.

Penalty option 1: Say you're going pro, sit for the Sugar Bowl
Penalty option 2: Say you're staying, actually stay, sit at most 5 games next year
Penalty option 3: Say you're staying, leave anyway. Good luck with that.

In my opinionated IMO, option 3 would be the most severe penalty of the 3.

kind of manipulating the situation to his benefit with all those options, in my IMO.

 

[OH10]

Will Tress sue one of them if they go back on this "contract" to come back in 2011?

I have to assume you're being facetious.

The fact is that most people who live and work in or around Columbus know that "former Buckeye" status is a golden ticket to future employment. If these players went back on their word, they better make it in the NFL because there won't be a welcoming mat for them in central Ohio.

Its that simple. I'm not saying all of these guys fully understand the benefits of being a former Buckeye, but if they do, they know it would be a mistake to go pro now.

 

[exhawg]

Obviously not.....but that's not the point.

Penalty option 1: Say you're going pro, sit for the Sugar Bowl
Penalty option 2: Say you're staying, actually stay, sit at most 5 games next year
Penalty option 3: Say you're staying, leave anyway. Good luck with that.

In my opinionated IMO, option 3 would be the most severe penalty of the 3.

I agree. A non-football career can be made just by leaving OSU in good standing with the fanbase. Option 3 would ruin that. Better to show regret, take the medicine and make the most of what they get out of next season.

 

[OH10]

kind of manipulating the situation to his benefit with all those options, in my IMO.

How is that? He's basically saying that there are consequences for violating the rules. Pick which consequence at your own risk.

I, for one, was disappointed that Ohio State didn't suspend these guys for the bowl game because it left an out for the players to avoid any punishment at all. This closes that out. Anybody that is still critical would never be satisfied with anything Tressel did in this situation.

 

[WolverineMike]

the more I think about this, I guess it's really the only thing Tress could have done. I'll be curious to see if any of them still bail after playing. They could probably all use another year anyway. Should be interesting to see what happens.

 

[WolverineMike]

I have to assume you're being facetious.

The fact is that most people who live and work in or around Columbus know that "former Buckeye" status is a golden ticket to future employment. If these players went back on their word, they better make it in the NFL because there won't be a welcoming mat for them in central Ohio.

Its that simple. I'm not saying all of these guys fully understand the benefits of being a former Buckeye, but if they do, they know it would be a mistake to go pro now.

how's that former buckeye status working out for Clarette? The status is only a golden ticket if you don't embarrass the university.

 

[osugrad21]

how's that former buckeye status working out for Clarette? The status is only a golden ticket if you don't embarrass the university.

Well, MoC's situation is obviously a work in progress but the fact that JT has assisted him post-scandal says plenty. There have been rumors that MoC's book will include him admitting that he fabricated most of the allegations he made while in Columbus.

So, time will tell...

 

[BayBuck]

how's that former buckeye status working out for Clarette? The status is only a golden ticket if you don't embarrass the university.

No May, genius, that's exactly what exhawg said just 3 posts ago.

But then again, even after a prison stint, Clarett continues to benefit from his relationship with Tressel, and he is still welcome on campus by his former coach. That's probably at least half the reason he was able to get on the field again this year in Omaha. So yeah, that former Buckeye status is actually working out okay, even for an ex-con.

 

[Captain Hindsight]

how's that former buckeye status working out for Clarette? The status is only a golden ticket if you don't embarrass the university.

Well, like OH10 said, if you make a mistake and bring about embarrassment to the University, then our fanbase can be very unforgiving.

With that being said, Clarett was punished and seemingly learned his lesson. Personally, I'm glad to see that he's playing (or at least attempting) in the UFL.

The guy was young and immature, and had to learn the hard way. I'm not saying I "like" the guy, but I'm also not saying that I "hate" the guy. After all, he was a large part in bringing a national championship back to Columbus. Whether he was a punk or not at the time, he produced quite a few awesome memories. And I can say that these five players did as well. Although they messed up, there is still so much time for them to make amends with the fans, the university, and the NCAA.

 

[DaveyBoy]

What is advantageous about getting to play in the Sugar Bowl? The advantageous part would be to start the 5 games immediately so we aren't playing a conference game without 5 of our best players.

the advantageous part of playing in the SUgar Bowl is that we won't get destroyed by 21 to 26 points....which would have been likely had these guys not played in the Sugar Bowl...or it least would have been a distinct possibility.

 

[cjmik_75]

Of course a scUM fan would try to correlate MoC with this situation.

Since you asked, I think it worked out alright for Clarett so far. Jim Tressel only welcomed him back, helped him get back to school and secure employment in semi-pro football and I'm pretty sure Jim let him address the current Buckeye squad this year too.

Any other asinine jabs you'd like to take, Mike?

 

[buckeyesin07]

Will Tress sue one of them if they go back on this "contract" to come back in 2011?

I think this is a joke. At least, I hope it is.

 

[buckeyesin07]

Of course a scUM fan would try to correlate MoC with this situation.

Bingo. If there's anything you can always count on in scUM land, it's an obsession with Terrelle Pryor and attempting to re-hash the Clarett saga whenever possible.

 

[stkoran]

See your point, but not quite the right analogy. The tOSU 5 intentionally sold stuff for profit. You don't get sentenced for much of anything and certainly not VM for a complete accident (no specific intent or gross negligence).

How about receipt of stolen property instead? Maybe that is more apt. Son claims that he honestly didn't know it was stolen, but he had reasonable cause to believe that it was stolen. Maybe that's closer since the players didn't know it was a violation, but it seems most think they had reasonable cause to believe it was. I don't really want to nitpick about the crime, I'm just looking for something with low culpability/lack of intent to harm and or break a rule.

By the way, specific intent or gross negligence are not required for VM. All you need is regular negligence, or for the death to be a proximate result of committing a violation of any traffic law that is a minor misdemeanor. See R.C. 2903.06(A)(3)-(4).

 

[JXC]

I don't think any of them should be team captain given they won't play in a game until October due to suspension. I won't be upset if they are, though. That's up to Tressel and the team and I'll go with their decision.

Or maybe, depending on how the football team responds to all of this happening, a few of them will be captians.

If these guys stay, work harder than anybody towards next season, and become leaders helping other players at their positions, then the team may rally around them. I bet the feeling by most of the football players is that it's bogus that they are suspended in the first place.