*2024 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

[Captain Buckeye]

Also, bear in mind, the whole bit about them possessing stolen tOSU practice videos is NOT a part of this current investigation/NOA as it's part of an open and active FBI investigation. Even after all of this, there will still be more in the pipeline. The depths of their cheating knows no bounds.

Will be hilarious when a third NOA drops after they get vacated wins and bowl bans.

 

[NFBuck]

Maddening.

Last year it was “we need due process let this play out” and now it’ll be “well you can’t punish the kids. These kids weren’t even involved”.

Basically they’ll claim well everyone involved is now gone so how can you do this to us.

Well someone has to pay you ignorant fucks. That’s why they’re charging the university with a lvl 1 too.

 

[NFBuck]

Maddening.

Last year it was “we need due process let this play out” and now it’ll be “well you can’t punish the kids. These kids weren’t even involved”.

Basically they’ll claim well everyone involved is now gone so how can you do this to us.

Well someone has to pay you ignorant fucks. That’s why they’re charging the university with a lvl 1 too.

With the NCAA essentially having free agency, I don't think the kids are as much of a consideration anymore. They can go elsewhere.

 

[Zurp]

This is exactly it. They had knowledge of the cheating and allowed it to continue. WHILE ALREADY UNDER NCAA INVESTIGATION. They, at an absolute bare minimum should have told the coaches to shut down the sign stealing operation NOW. But nope. They decided they were just gonna try to race to the finish line before it was exposed. Zero integrity. They are, by any definition, the most corrupt program we've seen since the heydays of dirty/rogue CFB programs in the 1980's.

Death penalty? Is it warranted? I'd say given the size and scope of the operation, and the inaction of the school administration...if ever it was warranted, this, along with the ped aggy saga in 2011/12 are the cases for it. Unfortunately, the NCAA has said it is not something they will ever do again. However, they need to exact vengeance at a level that leaves their program crippled for years to come.

I didn't realize that they learned of the cheating that long ago. If that can be proven, that's really bad. I thought it was bad enough that the school was supporting the team in October. How can anyone take that school seriously?
Cheated at football? Let's see if we can win a championship before it's discovered.
Cheated on your test? Let's see if you can get hired by some big corporation before it's discovered.
Cheated on your research project? Let's see if we can get national recognition before it's discovered.
Cheated on your spouse? Well, I don't have anything to say about that but I'd guess that *ichigan is okay with that, too.
Can Harvard of the east take any legal action anytime someone refers to *ichigan as "Harvard of the west"? I don't know anything about Harvard, but I'm guessing it's an insult to them, at this point.

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

 

[NFBuck]

Once all this is done, if the practice footage shit is confirmed to be true, they should crippled their program for the whole next decade at least. Like 8-10 total years of postseason bans is basically a death penalty in this day and age.

I'd say more than 2-3 years of postseason bans is a pipedream. But, again, this is unprecedented, so I don't even want to start to guess what's going to happen.

 

[Captain Buckeye]

Agree. This scandal far exceeds anything we've ever seen. As to the penalties, they should absolutely set a new precedent as there is no precedent to the depths of their violations. Will we see it? I'm optimistic that the hammer is absolutely going to fall on them at a level we've never seen, but I'm not sold 100% given the NCAAs track record. We can only speculate and hope justice is served.

I know many point to the NCAA not having teeth but other than the Kansas basketball flip I think the NCAA has shown they’ll hit hard for things not even as serious as this.

And btw these programs cooperated.

I think everyone is underestimating the NCAA and how they can be motivated by people lying and skirting the rules.

I’m absolutely in the belief they’ll get hit hard. It’ll be such a great day because they’ll be so besides themselves. They’ll be so confused how they can get punished so hard.

 

[Captain Buckeye]

With the NCAA essentially having free agency, I don't think the kids are as much of a consideration anymore. They can go elsewhere.

And they will when they get their bowl ban.

 

[buckeyemania11]

I'd say more than 2-3 years of postseason bans is a pipedream. But, again, this is unprecedented, so I don't even want to start to guess what's going to happen.

2-3 years for the Stallions shit, then they'd have to tack on more for the computer crimes shit you'd think. Maybe only 2-3 again but 4-6 years of postseason bans still sets you back quite a bit.

 

[zbuck]

I'd say more than 2-3 years of postseason bans is a pipedream. But, again, this is unprecedented, so I don't even want to start to guess what's going to happen.

I don't know. I gotta believe that two years is on the table for NOA #2. What do they do once the Weiss computer stuff comes out of the FBI investigation ? I don't think the NCAA will say ... "Gee you guys keep fucking up, but we're done punishing you." This stuff will just continue to be layered on top ....

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

Also, bare in mind, the whole bit about them possessing stolen tOSU practice videos is NOT a part of this current investigation/NOA as it's part of an open and active FBI investigation. Even after all of this, there will still be more in the pipeline. The depths of their cheating knows no bounds.

Yes... still more in the pipeline.

What I want to happen, looking as far into the future as I can see:

3 years of massive scholarship reductions AND elimination of NIL
3 year post season ban; the ban only reduces by a year for every year when they would have actually played in the post season. A losing record hits the snooze button on the counter.
When the FBI is done sending people to federal-pound-you-in-the-ass-prison and the NCAA is able to drop the NOA for surreptitious access to the OSU server(s), the NCAA acquiesces to the necessity that constrains them to impose the death penalty (2 year DP)
The above penalties are suspended during the death penalty years and pick up where they left off after the DP has been served. So they start back up with scholarship reductions and then only get their post season bans at such time when the get back to the point where they are eligible for the post season.

This is what they deserve. They would almost certainly quit the sport rather than bother trying to come back from the DP.

I know it will not happen; it was cathartic to type it.

 

[NFBuck]

Yes... still more in the pipeline.

What I want to happen, looking as far into the future as I can see:

3 years of massive scholarship reductions AND elimination of NIL
3 year post season ban starting AFTER the years of their reduced scholarships AND elimination of NIL Most importantly, the ban only reduces by a year for every year when they would have actually played in the post season. A losing record hits the snooze button on the counter.
When the FBI is done sending people to federal-pound-you-in-the-ass-prison and the NCAA is able to drop the NOA for surreptitious access to the OSU server(s), the NCAA acquiesces to the necessity that constrains them to impose the death penalty (2 year DP)
The above penalties are suspended during the death penalty years and pick up where they left off after the DP has been served. So they start back up with scholarship reductions and then only get their post season bans at such time when the get back to the point where they are eligible for the post season.

This is what they deserve. They would almost certainly quit the sport rather than bother trying to come back from the DP.

I know it will not happen; it was cathartic to type it.

Elimination of NIL would be tantamount to the death penalty in today's CFB world. I'd love to see it, but I have a hard time seeing them going THAT far. Prove me wrong, NCAA, you cowards!

 

[zbuck]

Elimination of NIL would be tantamount to the death penalty in today's CFB world. I'd love to see it, but I have a hard time seeing them going THAT far. Prove me wrong, NCAA, you cowards!

Elimination of NIL would be something SCUM could / would fight. And would most likely win.

 

[buckeyemania11]

Scholarship reduction accompanied with a total roster size allowed reduction as well........ What's the current limit 120? Cut them down to 90 max and cut their scholarships from 85 to like 60. That would be a nice crippling.

 

[buckeyemania11]

Elimination of NIL would be something SCUM could / would fight. And would most likely win.

Yea I doubt the NIL limitation thing is happening.