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*2024 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

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cincibuck said:
Maybe. But that sounds like something you say when you get your clock cleaned in a big game.
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Actually, there is video evidence of Scum being familiar with other teams play calls, so why not Washington? It is very possible that good ol' Connor had done some previous ground work.

Let's not apologize for the cheating bastards, because their program does not have much credibility.
 
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osuvictory1 said:
It is very possible that good ol' Connor had done some previous ground work.
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I am convinced that they continued to cheat after Stalions left. Stalions is made out to be the leader and the only one responsible, with maybe some coaches benefiting from what he was doing. But I think it goes deeper. Or higher. When he left, they shifted to "Plan B" in their cheating scheme. I mean, how would it look if they get accused of cheating, and then Stalions leaves, and suddenly they lose 3 of their last 6 games? That's a good indication that they really had been cheating up to that point. But if they win the national championship, they can say, "See? We weren't cheating." But they were so married to the idea of cheating, that they had to continue to cheat.

In 2022, they only team they didn't have secret intel on was TCU. And TCU scored about 50 points on them. They weren't going to make the same mistake in 2023. The cheaters had a bunch of info on all of the teams, and when they were caught in cheating "Plan A", they simply shut "Plan A" down and opened the envelope for "Plan B". I don't know what the details are/were of "Plan B", but the cheaters couldn't afford to not cheat. They had enough information on Alabama and Washington to know how to win those games.
 
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Zurp said:
I am convinced that they continued to cheat after Stalions left. Stalions is made out to be the leader and the only one responsible, with maybe some coaches benefiting from what he was doing. But I think it goes deeper. Or higher. When he left, they shifted to "Plan B" in their cheating scheme. I mean, how would it look if they get accused of cheating, and then Stalions leaves, and suddenly they lose 3 of their last 6 games? That's a good indication that they really had been cheating up to that point. But if they win the national championship, they can say, "See? We weren't cheating." But they were so married to the idea of cheating, that they had to continue to cheat.

In 2022, they only team they didn't have secret intel on was TCU. And TCU scored about 50 points on them. They weren't going to make the same mistake in 2023. The cheaters had a bunch of info on all of the teams, and when they were caught in cheating "Plan A", they simply shut "Plan A" down and opened the envelope for "Plan B". I don't know what the details are/were of "Plan B", but the cheaters couldn't afford to not cheat. They had enough information on Alabama and Washington to know how to win those games.
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I have posted on this before, but I also said that I would be repeating this point…

The Differential Red Zone analysis that I did earlier in the thread is consistent with Plan B, as you call it, having been the movement of the laminates that Stallions was seen with on the sidelines up to the press box. That would have created a delay in the communication of the stolen signals, consistent with the change in stats. But the main takeaway is that the stats were, and are, objective evidence that they were still cheating.
 
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DaddyBigBucks said:
I have posted on this before, but I also said that I would be repeating this point…

The Differential Red Zone analysis that I did earlier in the thread is consistent with Plan B, as you call it, having been the movement of the laminates that Stallions was seen with on the sidelines up to the press box. That would have created a delay in the communication of the stolen signals, consistent with the change in stats. But the main takeaway is that the stats were, and are, objective evidence that they were still cheating.
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Yeah. I remember checking out your numbers and thought they were helpful. But I said I was already convinced. The ruling on the field (in my eyes) is that they were still cheating. Each time you or anyone else posts additional "video evidence", it's just piling more evidence on the one side of the argument. I've yet to see any evidence to try to convince me that they weren't still cheating, and I doubt that I ever will. But it'll need to be VERY convincing to get me to change my mind.
 
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Does anyone else think that the NCAA statement will read something like this:

[The out loud part]"Yes, Michigan broke the rules by stealing signs, but it's really our fault for not allowing helmet communication. We hope to do a better job in the future. Now here's your slap on the wrist."

[The quiet part] "Our media and sports wagering partners don't seem to care about the integrity of our product, so why should we?"
 
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