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2024 College Football Playoffs Discussion (12 Team Format)

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ORD_Buckeye said:
And if the B1G winner is Ohio State or the pedsters watch how they'll manipulate the seeding to prevent an SEC team from playing in the cold.

If they do get five in, everybody had better root for them to have a complete disaster or it will be the norm moving forward. Still think--depending how things end up--there will be immense pressure to put both academies in at the cost of a B1G, SEC or ACC team. Boise with a Heisman winner won't get that same consideration, but the second place academy team will.
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And where does ND fit in, as ACC or independent?
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
So:

UGA, tejas, LSU, aggy, Bama and Tennessee
Navy, Army, Boise
B12 winner
ACC winner
B1G winner

A joke, but not really. It could happen.

Maybe, it's the year they throw the G6 a bone and let them have three (hoping they all get curb stomped) to shut them up for the next decade. These aren't your normal G6 teams from a viewership perspective Two academies and Boise with the Heisman winner would all be incredible tv draws, so they're really not losing anything in viewership--probably equal or better draws than a one-loss Indiana or two-loss Ohio State/pedster. Anyone in the media who questions both academies getting in gets silenced with the "why are you disrespecting the troops" crap.

Lotta in...lotta outs to this case. Lotta strands in Ol' Duder's head.
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Army - Navy game is 12/14, a week after SEC, BIG CGs. How's that fit in with the playoffs?
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Maybe in a normal year but not this year. If they lose to the pedsters but beat IU, that leaves the B1G runner up with 1 loss and the winner undefeated and Ohio State with no extra data point from a championship game. Oregon and ped both get in. Between the way the SEC!SEC!SEC! is setting up this year and the possible huge pressure to get both academies in (not to mention possibly a one loss Boise with the Heisman winner), that is not a sure bet by a long stretch. Better hope for UNLV to beat Boise on Friday, and Notre Dame to curb stomp (not just beat) Army and Navy and some of the SEC contenders to pick up a third loss, not to mention that at least two of the three ACC contenders pick up two losses.
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I’d rather Army and Navy curb stomp ND and deal with the results.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
So:

UGA, tejas, LSU, aggy, Bama and Tennessee
Navy, Army, Boise
B12 winner
ACC winner
B1G winner

A joke, but not really. It could happen.

Maybe, it's the year they throw the G6 a bone and let them have three (hoping they all get curb stomped) to shut them up for the next decade. These aren't your normal G6 teams from a viewership perspective Two academies and Boise with the Heisman winner would all be incredible tv draws, so they're really not losing anything in viewership--probably equal or better draws than a one-loss Indiana or two-loss Ohio State/pedster. Anyone in the media who questions both academies getting in gets silenced with the "why are you disrespecting the troops" crap.

Lotta in...lotta outs to this case. Lotta strands in Ol' Duder's head.
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I’m too lazy to do the analysis, but some of those SEC teams play each other. Add in a random upset or two and I doubt more than four of them will finish with less than three losses. If the top six SEC teams all finish with two losses each, that could be a problem. Don’t know if that’s possible, but there’s a lot of football left.
 
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CincyInterloper said:
I’m too lazy to do the analysis, but some of those SEC teams play each other. Add in a random upset or two and I doubt more than four of them will finish with less than three losses. If the top six SEC teams all finish with two losses each, that could be a problem. Don’t know if that’s possible, but there’s a lot of football left.
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Okay, I've done the analysis, and I agree that we have a potential problem.

UGA has Tennessee and four stiffs remaining, so they'll be at least 10-2. Probably 10-1.

Texas has Texas AM and four stiffs remaining, so they'll be at least 10-2. Probably 10-1

LSU has Alabama, Texas AM, Choklahoma, and two stiffs. They have a good shot at 10-2. Figure one of Alabama and TAM is a loss. Maybe hope they lose both to end up at 9-3.

TAM has LSU, Texas, and three stiffs. Similar situation as LSU, figure they drop one of LSU and Texas and end up 10-2. Maybe hope for two losses here as well, but that could put LSU in.

Alabama has LSU, Oklahoma, and Auburn, and needs to win out to be 10-2, so say LSU loses to Alabama and beats TAM to get LSU to 10-2. Oklahoma, you have one job to do. That Vandy loss is pretty embarrassing. Maybe that keeps them out.

Tennessee has GA and four stiffs, so they likely end up at 10-2.

So, do we root for TAM and Alabama to lose and keep it at four? Can Missouri sneak in if they beat Alabama?
 
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CincyInterloper said:
Okay, I've done the analysis, and I agree that we have a potential problem.

UGA has Tennessee and four stiffs remaining, so they'll be at least 10-2. Probably 10-1.

Texas has Texas AM and four stiffs remaining, so they'll be at least 10-2. Probably 10-1

LSU has Alabama, Texas AM, Choklahoma, and two stiffs. They have a good shot at 10-2. Figure one of Alabama and TAM is a loss. Maybe hope they lose both to end up at 9-3.

TAM has LSU, Texas, and three stiffs. Similar situation as LSU, figure they drop one of LSU and Texas and end up 10-2. Maybe hope for two losses here as well, but that could put LSU in.

Alabama has LSU, Oklahoma, and Auburn, and needs to win out to be 10-2, so say LSU loses to Alabama and beats TAM to get LSU to 10-2. Oklahoma, you have one job to do. That Vandy loss is pretty embarrassing. Maybe that keeps them out.

Tennessee has GA and four stiffs, so they likely end up at 10-2.

So, do we root for TAM and Alabama to lose and keep it at four? Can Missouri sneak in if they beat Alabama?
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LSU has no business being in with 2 losses, considering one of their losses is to a USC team that is likely to finish 6-6 at best at this point. SEC though so they'll keep gaslighting that "USC WAS A TOP 25 TEAM WHEN THEY LOST TO THEM!"

If Texas finished with 2 losses that means their best win is likely against Vanderbilt, no business being in but TEXAS and SEC so of course they aren't getting left out.

There's a definite nightmare scenario where they are able to possibly push not only 5 but 6 SEC teams in if things keep falling into place right.
 
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ESPNSEC will of course use their shitty FPI rankings to help justify their campaigning for a outrageous amount of SEC teams

Look at this garbage

www.espn.com

2024 College Football Power Index - ESPN

View the 2024 College Football power index on ESPN. The FPI is the best predictor of a team's performance going forward for the rest of the season.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

Bama #3, Ole Miss #5, FLORIDA AND SOUTH CAROLINA in the top 25

Oklahoma #29, Arkansas #32, 2-5 Auburn #33
 
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I know there's a lot of CFP talk in the scUM thread, maybe we can move it over here.

Honestly, even with the loss to UGA, I'd still have Tejas as possibly the best team in the SEC. And that's not really saying much. Tejas, UGA, Tenn and LSU all have MAJOR flaws. If anyone thinks that OSU doesn't have a chance, then they're kidding themselves, I watched that UT-UGA game and laughed, Both teams looked like trash
 
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pnuts34 said:
I know there's a lot of CFP talk in the scUM thread, maybe we can move it over here.

Honestly, even with the loss to UGA, I'd still have Tejas as possibly the best team in the SEC. And that's not really saying much. Tejas, UGA, Tenn and LSU all have MAJOR flaws. If anyone thinks that OSU doesn't have a chance, then they're kidding themselves, I watched that UT-UGA game and laughed, Both teams looked like trash
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Whelp, Texas, Tennessee and Georgia are probably all going to get into the playoffs. It's almost like the SEC is designing team schedules with the objective of packing the playoffs with SEC teams.
 
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pnuts34 said:
I know there's a lot of CFP talk in the scUM thread, maybe we can move it over here.

Honestly, even with the loss to UGA, I'd still have Tejas as possibly the best team in the SEC. And that's not really saying much. Tejas, UGA, Tenn and LSU all have MAJOR flaws. If anyone thinks that OSU doesn't have a chance, then they're kidding themselves, I watched that UT-UGA game and laughed, Both teams looked like trash
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I think we absolutely have a chance if we're in. I'm just starting to worry that unless we run the table, there is a significant chance that we won't get to prove it.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
I think we absolutely have a chance if we're in. I'm just starting to worry that unless we run the table, there is a significant chance that we won't get to prove it.
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Yep, if we lose again it has to be in the B1G title game, and even then you really don't want to risk it

We could have 2 losses to Oregon (#1) and they'd still do all they could to slide a 2 loss Bama (one loss being to fucking Vandy) in over us. That's the sad state of affairs you get when ESPN is basically running the show with their huge SEC interests.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
Yep, if we lose again it has to be in the B1G title game, and even then you really don't want to risk it

We could have 2 losses to Oregon (#1) and they'd still do all they could to slide a 2 loss Bama (one loss being to fucking Vandy) in over us. That's the sad state of affairs you get when ESPN is basically running the show with their huge SEC interests.
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That's an interesting one. 2-loss Ohio State versus 1-loss pedsters and IU who we will have beaten in the last half of the season. All four should get in, but will they do that at the expense of a 5th SEC team and/or a second academy? So how do they play that? 5 SEC, 2 ACC, 2 G6 and 1 B12 leaves two spots for the B1G.

As for espn, the B1G, B12 and G6 are really going to need to be on the same team when the playoff media deal expires and make sure that FOX, CBS and NBC get in on it. You can't leave the playoff as essentially the in-house property of one network.
 
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