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2024 College Football Playoffs Discussion (12 Team Format)

Maybe if they re-seeded teams after each round might help. But that ruins the college brackets people expect.
Yeah. But I don’t care about college brackets.
Re-seeding would help, but it won’t make it right.
I know I’m not preaching to anyone who has any power, but they should have added a provision for X losses and you’re out. I’d vote for 2, but that makes it really hard to schedule a tough out of conference game. Lose it plus 2 more tough conference games and you’re already dead.
They won’t do it, so I’ll stop bitching.
For now.
 
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Maybe TDunk got it in one? The 'expectations' of the fanbases, and the panderings of the talking heads that write about, or even have the vote to put these teams in place to participate in the playoff seems to weigh in in bunches. I'm old enough to recollect when ND had the power/sway to come into a state and say, we'll take your best OL, and RB thank you very much, and did. I guess the mystic bubble that surrounds ND back then still holds power, but they just aren't elite anymore. Very good, yes, but elite, not so much. Cannot remember if it's been discussed, but can I assume that there is a committee that evaluates teams in an on-going way, and shapes the rankings? Would like to see the metrics of what makes a playoff team, versus one with a better record, in a lesser league, playing a weaker schedule. Am very happy to be loyal to a team that really doesn't have to worry about all that stuff, as tOSU has a bubble of its own, and from I read/infer, a two loss tOSU will get 'in', versus a team with fewer losses, but weaker schedule (or more probably, a better traveling fanbase, that will fill stadium seats). And grudgingly, have to agree with Zurp, once a team is in, lightening could indeed strike, and the WR catches a ball and takes it to the house, upsets a heavy favorite, and does it again the next week to stand tall on the championship podium. Believe tOSU has done that, (circa the 2002 Buckeyes against Miami), and again in 2014 against Alabama. Go Bucks!
 
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I mostly agree with what you’ve said. But the playoffs are supposed to determine a champion. And once a team is in the playoffs, they have a chance. Sure, better seeds theoretically gets you an easier road, but the chance is there for #12 to win it. I’m more than a little annoyed that we’re already fighting for an 8-4 team to have a chance at being champions. If Iowa loses to Ohio state and Oregon and Penn state and Nebraska, but they’re #12, I don’t think they deserve to be considered. And if they go on a run and get to the championship against one of those four teams, why does that rematch count for more? Just because the title “championship game” says it does? Bah.

I know that the NFL has rematches all the time and no one cries. So maybe I’m old. But this isn’t the NFL (yet). The rematches can’t be avoided. But there should be more to keep these teams out of a chance to win a championship.
If the objective was to achieve a balance between the odds the best team gets left out verses the best team gets upset, I’m thinking four is close to the optimum number of playoff teams. Unfortunately for us, the objective appears to be maximizing television revenue. I don’t know what that number is, but I’m sure that’s what we’re going to get.
 
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If the objective was to achieve a balance between the odds the best team gets left out verses the best team gets upset, I’m thinking four is close to the optimum number of playoff teams. Unfortunately for us, the objective appears to be maximizing television revenue. I don’t know what that number is, but I’m sure that’s what we’re going to get.
Yep. I think I read that it's increasing to 14 teams soon. I'd be shocked if it stops there.
 
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Yep. I think I read that it's increasing to 14 teams soon. I'd be shocked if it stops there.
I think it may boil down to how many rounds the networks want to televise. Seems like it would be hard to have more than four or five rounds between the end of the college football season and the start of the NFL, so that would be 16 or 32 teams with no byes. The NFL has 14 playoff teams, so maybe that is indicative of where it goes.
 
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I think it may boil down to how many rounds the networks want to televise. Seems like it would be hard to have more than four or five rounds between the end of the college football season and the start of the NFL, so that would be 16 or 32 teams with no byes. The NFL has 14 playoff teams, so maybe that is indicative of where it goes.
True - the networks won't want an NFL vs College ratings battle. At least, not the major networks. So that leaves playing the games Monday night through Friday night.
But... once they figure out how to expand, they will. Maybe start adding some more hours to each day? And make them all primetime hours?
 
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That's what is needed here. Thinking outside of the box. Brainstorm, spitballing, throwing things up to see if they stick. Break out of the iconoclastic molds. If enough stuff comes out, then amongst these things could/should be the solution.
 
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Yep. I think I read that it's increasing to 14 teams soon. I'd be shocked if it stops there.
14 really doesn't make much sense to me. Two play-in games? I think if it expands, it'll go straight to 16 where it should absolutely stop. Byes would go away, so you wouldn't add an additional round. First two rounds at home stadiums and then the final four under the current format.

The run up to 16 will be fun because all the mid-majors will be demanding auto bids for every FBS conference only to slapped down by their own irrelevance.
 
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14 really doesn't make much sense to me. Two play-in games? I think if it expands, it'll go straight to 16 where it should absolutely stop. Byes would go away, so you wouldn't add an additional round. First two rounds at home stadiums and then the final four under the current format.

The run up to 16 will be fun because all the mid-majors will be demanding auto bids for every FBS conference only to slapped down by their own irrelevance.
I mean, imagine the fans reactions when they get to pay 100s to 1,000s of dollars to watch their home team Bama play the unstoppable MAC champion, Toledo.
 
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14 really doesn't make much sense to me. Two play-in games? I think if it expands, it'll go straight to 16 where it should absolutely stop. Byes would go away, so you wouldn't add an additional round. First two rounds at home stadiums and then the final four under the current format.

The run up to 16 will be fun because all the mid-majors will be demanding auto bids for every FBS conference only to slapped down by their own irrelevance.
I think it would be 2 teams get a bye, like the NFL now. 3 plays 14, 4 plays 13, etc. 1 and 2 get a first-round bye. I'm not crazy about it. If you're going to expand, go to 16. I think I've made my opinion clear in that 12 is too many, already. But that's a battle I've already lost. So my next battle is to stay at 12. I'm sure I'll lose that one, too. So, next choice is to go to 16. And I'd do first three rounds at home stadiums, but I'm sure I'll lose that one, too.

I mean, imagine the fans reactions when they get to pay 100s to 1,000s of dollars to watch their home team Bama play the unstoppable MAC champion, Toledo.
Yeah - keep auto-bids out. I mean, I also think the auto-bids should be ignored if the Power 5 (4) conference champion is boof. If a 4-loss team wins its conference championship game (Northwestern could have done it in 2018, if I remember correctly), I say they don't get an auto-bid.
 
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The one thing the B1G and SEC need to make clear is that we want two rounds of home games. The bowls aren't driving a god damned thing anymore. Does anyone think for one moment that money and ratings would drop one bit if the bowls were frozen out entirely? Let them wet their beeks in the semifinal round for nostalgia's sake, but they bring nothing to the table anymore. Hell, other than the Rose Bowl, all of them are played in rented out NFL stadiums anyways.

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The one thing the B1G and SEC need to make clear is that we want two rounds of home games. The bowls aren't driving a god damned thing anymore. Does anyone think for one moment that money and ratings would drop one bit if the bowls were frozen out entirely? Let them wet their beeks in the semifinal round for nostalgia's sake, but they bring nothing to the table anymore. Hell, other than the Rose Bowl, all of them are played in rented out NFL stadiums anyways.

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Just sayin': I don't know if the SEC would "buy in" to that; somehow I don't see them supporting a plan that in the second round could get one of their teams playing at a cold weather school. However, if it was adopted there would be just 3 games (2 semifinal games and the final game) left which is basically where we were last season. The semifinal games in rotating "NY6 bowl games" and the final game in a bid to get the game stadium. The thing that I'm pretty sure of is the number of home games will probably just come down to the money. Look at the bracket, round 1 has 6 (probably home) games, there are 7 games left that leaves 6 (rounds 2 & 3) games for the NY6 bowls and the championship game in a bid for stadium. I can't see the CFPs making more money on round 2 home games than they would be getting with the NY6 game payouts.

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