2023 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

[buckeyemania11]

Cheating scandal starting to cost them? Capt. Spin Pass only makes Honorable Mention in this Heisman list. Wasn't he being discussed as the favorite recently?

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Their WR who has 10 TD catches (2nd among P5 players) was completely left off of the updated Biletnikoff watch list.

 

[BUCK3YE5]

Holy shit, he's still going

 

[buckford]

Klatt says "Rushing into decisions to appease a mob is not leadership and has backfired in the recent past if you haven't forgotten."

So what is "leadership" in this situation? If cheating has occurred and is apparent in the course of a season, where the season is yet in progress, is it not the duty of a "leader" to address it immediately? If the leader(s) is/are in the form of B1G officials, Michigan officials, individual schools' officials or even hamstrung NCAA officials, do they not each have a duty to act? What, per Klatt, would a leader do? Is a "wait and see" approach the act of a leader?

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[ORD_Buckeye]

Their WR who has 10 TD catches (2nd among P5 players) was completely left off of the updated Biletnikoff watch list.

 

[buckeyemania11]

Holy shit, he's still going

"We should let this team continue on their cheating business as usual until they can 100% iron clad prove everything on paper!!!" - Brilliant

Criminals get convicted on circumstantial evidence all the time. And the NCAA & B1G aren't a fucking court of law.

 

[3074326]

I like Rich, but not when he talks about Michigan. Bruce Feldman offers pushback against Rich in this segment. At one point even said Rich was whataboutism-ing. The denial is in full swing. Rich is more concerned about the private investigation firm than his team cheating. Seems dumbfounded at the whole thing, needs to know for sure what is happening.

Stalions has already been suspended. We saw him in costume on another team's sideline. We see a guy in the recruiting office standing beside the HC and DC with a sheet of signs. We have ticket stubs. We have images of him in the stands at other teams' stadiums.

What more do you need to see?

 

[scarletngray]

If the B1G can only suspend the coaches for two games, I don’t believe there’s a requirement that those games be consecutive.

The B1G should suspend Harbaugh and the coordinators for the Penn State and Ohio State games, and the suspensions should be for the full game weeks, not just the day of the game.

Doubtful to happen but would be the dream scenario for sure. If he wanted to penalize Harbaugh and the OC & DC to the maximum extent, this would be the way to go. This would almost assure that they don't make the BIG championship game.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Klatt"s "process" argument conflates B1G jurisdiction with NCAA jurisdiction. There is a process in the B1Gs bylaws. It's, to all appearances, being followed.

 

[buckeyeintn]

Holy shit, he's still going

Somebody should tell him that's how the NCAA works. Cheaters Up North Toward Saginaw (CUNTS for short) also belong to a consortium of well respected universities whose reputations can be damaged by their association with these CUNTS. Those universities have an obligation to step in and put an end to the massive cheating now, not 3 years from now or even 3 months from now. The reputation of the consortium has already been damaged. They need to stop any further damage.
UTQTFS, disband the athletic department, raze the stadium and salt the field.

 

[scarletngray]

Raze the stadium and salt the field.

 

[buckeyemania11]

Somebody should tell him that's how the NCAA works. Cheaters Up North Toward Saginaw (CUNTS for short) also belong to a consortium of well respected universities whose reputations can be damaged by their association with these CUNTS. Those universities have an obligation to step in and put an end to the massive cheating now, not 3 years from now or even 3 months from now. The reputation of the consortium has already been damaged. They need to stop any further damage.
UTQTFS, disband the athletic department, raze the stadium and salt the field.

You already have at least 2 compromised seasons with this with half of a 3rd one, doing absolutely nothing basically means you are allowing a 3rd complete compromised season

 

[OHSportsFan]

I’m all for due process for off field cheating but this was a systemic overreach and vast network that conspired to steal playcalls, impacting on field results when the other party was not aware.

Pryor playing in the Sugar Bowl? Arkansas knew the starting lineup, whether he was later ineligible or not.

Opposing teams being blindsided and losing plays/points/games due to the other side cheating requires more than a slow due process.

Fix it now and sort out the rest later. This is the bed Michigan made so they need to deal with it.

 

[buckeyemania11]

I’m all for due process for off field cheating but this was a systemic overreach and vast network that conspired to steal playcalls, impacting on field results when the other party was not aware.

Pryor playing in the Sugar Bowl? Arkansas knew the starting lineup, whether he was later ineligible or not.

Opposing teams being blindsided and losing plays/points/games due to the other side cheating requires more than a slow due process.

Fix it now and sort out the rest later. This is the bed Michigan made so they need to deal with it.

Yep. It's obvious that at minimum they seriously broke the in person scouting rules. Nobody is buying the "ROGUE STAFFER!" shit, it doesn't take a team of seasoned investigators to figure out that is bullshit. With how vast it appears to be just from the evidence we've seen. It's enough to suspend Harbaugh and any major assistants until otherwise proven that they didn't really do anything wrong (not likely)

 

[buckeyemania11]

Stallions being that close to the actual coaches during games on the sidelines and constantly appearing to feed them info is "proof" enough that the coaches were in on everything. There's no plausible deniability on this one. Serious coaches aren't suddenly seriously taking info/play calling advice from some random "low level staffer" unless they know damn well the info was good and how it was obtained.

 

[Jake]

There's FOX's official pushback. Klatt doesn't bother trying to hide it.

"We want the best TV ratings possible!"

Cowherd did the same thing, still playing the "everybody does it" card. Big Noon isn't going to pay for itself.