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2023 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

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How in the face of all of this they can extend Harbaugh is mind blowing to me.

Seriously mind blowing.

So if all of this is true do they just not care? Would they just go down with the ship then?

Until anything is done by the B1G or NCAA, there is nothing happening. They will protect themselves contractually as well as the program (recruiting, opportunities, etc.) until they have reason not to.

Language in any contract put in front of him, I’m sure, will be such that it will be easy for them to jettison him if / when they want.
 
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Until anything is done by the B1G or NCAA, there is nothing happening. They will protect themselves contractually as well as the program (recruiting, opportunities, etc.) until they have reason not to.

Language in any contract put in front of him, I’m sure, will be such that it will be easy for them to jettison him if / when they want.
Yep my thoughts too.

Wild they’re choosing now though.

If I’m the Big Ten or the NCAA I mean damn how is that not a challenge to them.

Edited: should be mentioned too that maybe they both get what they want with an extension.

Jim gets the “vote of confidence” and maybe Michigan gets a better out clause? This way Michigan is like “ok we’ll give you the contract but we want an out if this sign stuff goes south”
 
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Or Harbaugh has a couple of high profile Regents/donors in his camp who've gone to the mattresses, and JuggalOno is bending to the prevailing winds. What's Harbaugh's relationship with Ross like.

On a Tuesday morning Michigan admin meeting and its outcome ...

President Ono's last word on it was "get it finalized immediately." Some believe the announcement could come by the end of the week. That depends on Jim signing, etc. — of course, he's indicated publicly he wanted it, so it would be a bad look if he didn't, and there's no indication he won't. But a lot of the groundwork had already been laid, progress made before the pause, so it's not like they are in tough negotiations here. They are all on the same page.

This is what we know — NOW. And there are clauses for NCAA stuff. If anything else were to break, for example, that would be bad for the program, as you'd expect, things would change.

Sounds like they’ve covering their ass as much as they are interested in retaining him—if you actually had this success? Great, have an extension. This NCAA stuff? Please sign this and make it easier for us to fire you if any of this sticks.

He’s such a stubborn SOB, maybe they’re giving him the rope, via his own arrogance and stubbornness regarding whether he did anything wrong, to hang himself with a contract that on the surface looks like a win for him but will trigger his firing with new language regarding NCAA violations.
 
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Wild they’re choosing now though.

The "report" (from a here's a nugget, I got some subscriptions to sell dude) was "positive news" (for him) and "soon" like... that could mean, "Hey Jim, if you're lying ass isn't actually lying, you know what? We'll totally have a positive contract situation for you as "soon" as this is all over."

Man I get DiHard Flashbacks from that Balas guy. $77! Elevnty!?!?!?!?!e
 
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What?! I was fully convinced this was going to be a nothing burger. Yeah it looks like him but it also looks like about 15% of the male population in thier 20s-30s.

But if this was a CMU staffer/intern, certainly they can identify who or at least get confirmation from another staffer. “Oh, that’s just Joe” was is all it takes to kill this story.

The fact that more than 24 hours later they can’t say its not Private Porno Name is interesting.
 
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Sounds like they’ve covering their ass as much as they are interested in retaining him—if you actually had this success? Great, have an extension. This NCAA stuff? Please sign this and make it easier for us to fire you if any of this sticks.

He’s such a stubborn SOB, maybe they’re giving him the rope, via his own arrogance and stubbornness regarding whether he did anything wrong, to hang himself with a contract that on the surface looks like a win for him but will trigger his firing with new language regarding NCAA violations.
Ha that’s what I think too.

Jim’s like “I swear I’m not involved”

Michigan like “prove it sign this extension”

Jim: “if you drop corn in a “

Michigan “shut the fuck up and sign the contract”

Jim “crack it’ll grow. Also ok deal”
 
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... hang himself with a contract that on the surface looks like a win for him but will trigger his firing with new language regarding NCAA violations.
I would love for this to be true; just not sure that they would need "new" language regarding NCAA violations.

Don't ALL FBS HC contracts have clauses regarding violations? <-- Not rhetorical: I assume this is true but I honestly don't know

If they did need "new" language in that realm, then... wow
 
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I would love for this to be true; just not sure that they would need "new" language regarding NCAA violations.

Don't ALL FBS HC contracts have clauses regarding violations? <-- Not rhetorical: I assume this is true but I honestly don't know

If they did need "new" language in that realm, then... wow
There’s been a lot of conversation around there not being exact penalties laid out in the NCAA rule book for the violations that took place and a lot of wishful thinking from DFBIA about how they masterfully exploited a gray area in the rules. I can imagine there might be space to tighten up his ‘for cause’ termination language in either scenario.
 
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Sounds like they’ve covering their ass as much as they are interested in retaining him—if you actually had this success? Great, have an extension. This NCAA stuff? Please sign this and make it easier for us to fire you if any of this sticks.

He’s such a stubborn SOB, maybe they’re giving him the rope, via his own arrogance and stubbornness regarding whether he did anything wrong, to hang himself with a contract that on the surface looks like a win for him but will trigger his firing with new language regarding NCAA violations.
Harbaugh is the proverbial dumb guy who's convinced himself that he's the smartest guy in the room. tsun will have lawyers that are far smarter writing the "with cause" clauses.
 
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I would love for this to be true; just not sure that they would need "new" language regarding NCAA violations.

Don't ALL FBS HC contracts have clauses regarding violations? <-- Not rhetorical: I assume this is true but I honestly don't know

If they did need "new" language in that realm, then... wow

I’m 100% sure that language exists in pretty much every one… the fact that he was going to get a new contract and there was a pause when all this blew up suggests to me that tsun wanted to gauge the situation — which includes determining how much of the narrative they could control, and then revisit the language in the document to ensure that it’s iron-clad if they had to exercise a dismissal clause for anything up to and including eating boogers on the sidelines during a game.

Doing the above is just prudent business. So is continuing in the intended process / direction in the absence of any formal reason not to.

I think that tsun will continue to operate as though nothing has happened until it is informed that, it is believed by the NCAA and / or B1G that, non-trivial things HAVE happened.
 
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I would love for this to be true; just not sure that they would need "new" language regarding NCAA violations.

Don't ALL FBS HC contracts have clauses regarding violations? <-- Not rhetorical: I assume this is true but I honestly don't know

If they did need "new" language in that realm, then... wow
One would assume. Yet their primary dna is based on the notion that they would never cheat, so who knows.
 
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