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2023 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

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I think the conference and NCAA are in a bind. Specifics to this case aside, if you're in the situation of basically ending a team's hopes to win a championship, you need to take it if that team took part in a major violation, and you need to avoid it if they didn't. I believe in due process, so the Big Ten and NCAA need to thoroughly investigate. But, knowing about the allegations as of 10/25, if either had a chance to stop M*ch*gan now, and didn't take it, and they win anything of note (conference championship or national championship), it's embarrassing for you to have to take it away. Neither entity is up against a deadline at this point, but it would be a disaster if either waits until November 27 to make a decision and a ruling.

Of course, if Ohio State takes care of business on November 25, this can just be a fun debate, instead of a potential disaster.
 
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Three year ban from the playoffs--just as multiple other programs will be getting a real shot at making it--will send that program back to the stone age..

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Jaxbuck said:
They aren't winning the fucking NC no matter what happens with Thee Stallion stuff.

They are going to get nuked, eventually, for a couple of B1G championships that they will likely end up having to vacate. Just like the Fab 5, a lot of cheating resulting in an empty trophy case even before they get hammered.
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Agreed. If Georgia remembers that they're Georgia, or Alabama remembers that they're Alabama, they can tell M*ch*gan what play they're running and winning by 3 touchdowns.

I hope they vacate the games and seasons and championships. But vacating is kinda dumb. I mean, in 2010, officially, Ohio State didn't beat M*ch*gan - that game was vacated. But in 2010, M*ch*gan officially lost to Ohio State. Weird.
Vacate the games both ways. Vacate the wins in 2021 and 2022 if you want, but vacate the losses, too. Or something....
 
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Three year ban from the playoffs--just as multiple other programs will be getting a real shot at making it--will send that program back to the stone age..
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Yikes! I just thought about it - ban them from playoffs when playoffs become open enough that it's almost a sure-thing that they'll get a spot each year... had they kept winning. Of course, if the program gets nuked (as it should), the playoff ban won't mean anything because they wouldn't get into a 12-team playoff, anyway.
 
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Yikes! I just thought about it - ban them from playoffs when playoffs become open enough that it's almost a sure-thing that they'll get a spot each year... had they kept winning. Of course, if the program gets nuked (as it should), the playoff ban won't mean anything because they wouldn't get into a 12-team playoff, anyway.
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Not to mention there's several strong programs joining the big Ten next year who would love to snag their proverbial seat at the table.
 
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Yikes! I just thought about it - ban them from playoffs when playoffs become open enough that it's almost a sure-thing that they'll get a spot each year... had they kept winning. Of course, if the program gets nuked (as it should), the playoff ban won't mean anything because they wouldn't get into a 12-team playoff, anyway.
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If the whole fucking coaching staff gets nuked because of this they wouldn't even be competitive for the playoff even if they were allowed in.

You gotta think that would put them back at least 5-6 at minimum, but likely longer.

The whole roster basically would run to the portal and good luck getting higher caliber recruits for awhile and finding a good coach who's gonna want to take over that ship.

The aftermath would make the Rich Rod era look competent.
 
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Most programs at least attempt to decode opponents’ signals. But they use the All-22 film provided by a subscription service available to every program and examine the TV copies that are broadcast to millions in search of information. If they were able to pair that footage up with a person filming opponents’ signals from the stands — a practice coaches are not used to guarding against — they would have a higher percentage of certainty of those teams’ signals.
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“Everybody gets it off video. If you’re not watching coaches’ copies and doing it, you’re not doing your job. You can hear the (on-field television) mics pick up, this word is code word for this. Or this is code for that. That’s part of it,” the first Power 5 head coach said.
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“If they’re using electronic devices during the game to videotape a signal person for the other team and watching the tape and matching it up,” the second Power 5 coach said, “that’s BS and above and beyond the line. … That’s a major no-no, and every coach knows that.”
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“Use the same advantage everyone else has. Every one of your opponents’ TV copies is available. All-22 is available. Do what everybody else is doing. That’s the standard,” he said. “And if you’re going to do it, do a better job covering your ass.”
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“This is a different level,” Coach No. 1 said. “When you’ve got a network of spies, you’re taking it too far.”
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Jaxbuck said:
They aren't winning the fucking NC no matter what happens with Thee Stallion stuff.

They are going to get nuked, eventually, for a couple of B1G championships that they will likely end up having to vacate. Just like the Fab 5, a lot of cheating resulting in an empty trophy case even before they get hammered.
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Yeah, and the Fab 5 fucked OSU out of a Final Four run. Some things can't be fixed by vacating, which is why there need to be additional punishments going forward. Fuck that program and go in dry.
 
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