DubCoffman62
Lazy Slob
Notre Dame has thumped three ACC teams, beat UNLV by almost the same score that they beat Syracuse and was lucky to get past Cal. The BYU win has lost it's luster too. Their best "win" was actually a loss by only losing by 11 at the shoe.Very good discussion here. Part of it is who is good right now. Had ND beat Clemson week 1-3 and then lost to Ohio State, Marshall, Stanford I'd have them out.
The 2017 Iowa is an interesting point and makes me think on it more as they did dominate that game. They had 3 close losses and 1 good win, and Ohio State had 2 blowout losses and 1 good win. As another data point, OSU and Iowa had played a few common opponents prior to the game, and OSU handled all of them better. Ohio state had also dominated other opponents and looked like a top 10 team, and Iowa hadn't. That makes it a little more even when factoring in total body of work. I would say looking back at it I would have put a 6-3 Iowa over a 7-2 Ohio State that week (until they got hammered by Wisky the next week).
Yes ND dominated Clemson, but they also have been more dominant over 2 common opponents. ND lost 2 games they should have won, and lost 1 game they should have lost, and has looked like shit every time they weren't playing an ACC school. Clemson also has looked like shit week in and week out. If they had dominated through the year and had a fluke of a bad game, I would keep them in the top 10. So it's the head to head, but also a total body of work that makes me think ND is a better team at this point in the season even with the losses. Clemson could take it as a kick in the nuts and dominate the next few weeks. ND could get a big head and drop to USC. Either of those would change my opinion.
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