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2021 CFB Playoff Discussion

We still need Oregon to lose again. If it comes down to Ohio State and Oregon for the last spot, I don't care whose loss is worse or who played a harder schedule or who passed the eye test. If one of the comparison metrics is a head-to-head game then that is what's going to matter.

I agree IF Oregon stayed up around #3 to #5 in the CFP poll. I just don't think they will.

No one is going to use the H2H tie breaker if OSU is fighting for the 3rd or 4th spot and Oregon has slipped down to 10 or whatever.
 
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I agree IF Oregon stayed up around #3 to #5 in the CFP poll. I just don't think they will.

No one is going to use the H2H tie breaker if OSU is fighting for the 3rd or 4th spot and Oregon has slipped down to 10 or whatever.

If they win out, they should slide back into that 3-6 range.

Given the B12's championship game format, there is no way mercifully that Okie and Tejas could both end up with one loss. Talk about an espn wet dream of pushing a Bama, UGA, Okie, Tejas playoff.

Right now, the inside track seems to be Bama, UGA and the Okie-Tejas winner and the B1G winner. Wild cards are Oregon and the juggalos. Flip Oregon and the B1G winner if the latter is Ohio State.
 
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If they win out, they should slide back into that 3-6 range.

Well that's the whole thing isn't it? The media seems to have zero respect for (or financial interest in) the PAC if it isn't USC led. I could just as easily see undefeated teams that get their first loss stay ahead of Oregon as it begins to happen.

In that case, they won't be up around that 3-6 range to even make the argument.

All in all, a second loss is better but I don't think they are an insurmountable obstacle with 1 loss. No one knows for sure.
 
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The problem with the committee is their "criteria" seems to shift with the wind. They basically mold it to fit what they want to happen. There's nothing really set. So you never know what really is going to happen until it does. It would definitely be better for Oregon to lose again, sure. But I don't think a decision would be based entirely on a head to head game in week 2 of the season.
 
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The problem with the committee is their "criteria" seems to shift with the wind. They basically mold it to fit what they want to happen. There's nothing really set. So you never know what really is going to happen until it does. It would definitely be better for Oregon to lose again, sure. But I don't think a decision would be based entirely on a head to head game in week 2 of the season.
Pretty much they seem to set their field and justify it afterwards vs having set rules to justify it. Hence why a committee is worse then BCS as nonsense as that is. Though those were still given a huge human element when they didn't liek the computers answer
 
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I'd LOVE to see them really get exposed and be forced to choose from a 1 loss Bama that loses the SEC title game to Georgia and like a undefeated Wake Forest ACC Champion. You know there's no way they are putting Wake Forest in over Bama in that scenario. But the mental gymnastics and excuses they'd make explaining how its "not a beauty contest" would be pretty hilarious. .
 
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Right now, the inside track seems to be Bama, UGA and the Okie-Tejas winner and the B1G winner. Wild cards are Oregon and the juggalos. Flip Oregon and the B1G winner if the latter is Ohio State.

Unfortunately, I agree with you. It's tough when the whole world says, "Why can't they settle this on the field?" and in this case, they already did settle it on the field. "But that was before Ohio State found a defense" seems like something that Ohio State fans will say and make people laugh at Ohio State fans.
I think that if Oregon, Ohio State, Bama, and Georgia all win out, except for the SEC CG, the real argument should be between Ohio State and the SEC CG loser (and Cincinnati, if they win out, too). But that won't be the argument.
 
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Unfortunately, I agree with you. It's tough when the whole world says, "Why can't they settle this on the field?" and in this case, they already did settle it on the field. "But that was before Ohio State found a defense" seems like something that Ohio State fans will say and make people laugh at Ohio State fans.
I think that if Oregon, Ohio State, Bama, and Georgia all win out, except for the SEC CG, the real argument should be between Ohio State and the SEC CG loser (and Cincinnati, if they win out, too). But that won't be the argument.

I think they would maybe actually leave Georgia out. Call me crazy. They don't carry the same pull as Bama though. Especially if it came down to them and a Ohio State team that just beat a pretty highly ranked (hopefully) Iowa team in the B1G title game.
 
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An inside look at how the College Football Playoff Selection Committee process has changed since 2014

A mock CFP Selection Committee meeting provided an interesting look into how the rankings are decided

The College Football Playoff held its latest mock selection meeting this week, and in attending for the second time -- my first since 2014, the initial year of the CFP -- the process has certainly changed.

That first meeting was held before the actual CFP Selection Committee had ever met live for its first set of rankings. It was interesting to see the process, but there was not much data available to analyze the teams. Notably absent was a strength of schedule measurement. That was highly subjective.

This time around, there's a lot of data available for committee members. Not only is there strength of schedule, but there are numerous offensive and defensive statistics provided to help measure team performance not only in raw numbers but in relation to the strength of their opponents.

Strength of schedule is also measured in aggregate with each team given a raw rating and ranking from 1-130. Also, each opponent on a team's schedule is listed with a relative strength ranking that is color-coded with green being stronger and red weaker. It is easy to spot right away a schedule with a lot of red or green as weak or strong.

An opponent's place in the most recent CFP Rankings is also listed, if applicable. Each team's record against the top 25 is based on that CFP ranking.

Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...ion-committee-process-has-changed-since-2014/
 
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An inside look at how the College Football Playoff Selection Committee process has changed since 2014

A mock CFP Selection Committee meeting provided an interesting look into how the rankings are decided

The College Football Playoff held its latest mock selection meeting this week, and in attending for the second time -- my first since 2014, the initial year of the CFP -- the process has certainly changed.

That first meeting was held before the actual CFP Selection Committee had ever met live for its first set of rankings. It was interesting to see the process, but there was not much data available to analyze the teams. Notably absent was a strength of schedule measurement. That was highly subjective.

This time around, there's a lot of data available for committee members. Not only is there strength of schedule, but there are numerous offensive and defensive statistics provided to help measure team performance not only in raw numbers but in relation to the strength of their opponents.

Strength of schedule is also measured in aggregate with each team given a raw rating and ranking from 1-130. Also, each opponent on a team's schedule is listed with a relative strength ranking that is color-coded with green being stronger and red weaker. It is easy to spot right away a schedule with a lot of red or green as weak or strong.

An opponent's place in the most recent CFP Rankings is also listed, if applicable. Each team's record against the top 25 is based on that CFP ranking.

Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...ion-committee-process-has-changed-since-2014/

And who decides which teams are "red" and which are "green". This "information" that the committee is given should be like everything else. It should be questioned. They should look to determine how the information was compiled, and by whom.

But they won't. Easier to just accept what you’re given as being true. Makes your job easier.
 
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They don't if they look like two different teams at the end of the season. You can argue they matter till you're blue in the face but the committee has repeatedly shown. Things only matter if they consider teams comparable. If they don't consider them comparable at the end season cause Ohio state beat ranked teams and looked good doing it while Oregon struggles every week with unranked teams. At the end of the day yes another Oregon loss removes all doubt but things are still trending Ohio State's way

Brave of you to assume politicians, 4star generals, CEOs, and a few Athletic Directors actually watch these games.
 
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