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2021 CFB Playoff Discussion



On Tuesday's episode of the "Cover 3" podcast, CBS Sports analyst and former Florida State quarterback Danny Kanell said he likes Ohio State to bounce back and salvage its season.

"Of all these teams you know I'm buying? I'm buying Ohio State," Kanell said. "I can get them the cheapest as far as odds to win the national championship, and I think they have the least amount of concern or easiest fix for what ails them. You did notice, Kerry Coombs is no longer calling the defensive plays on the defensive side of the ball for the Buckeyes. They're trying new things, so you would expect them to struggle somewhat — to have some guys out of position, to maybe have some missed assignments. The longer the season goes on, they can iron those out.

"They still have all that talent on the offensive side of the ball. C.J. Stroud has been pretty good. A couple of opportunities he has missed on or made a couple less-than-stellar throws, but the offense can still carry this defense, much like they've done, until they get things figured out. And by the way, they play Penn State, who looks like a much better opponent at home. They do have to go to Indiana, but that doesn't look like an insurmountable task now. They do have to go to Nebraska, win that one. Michigan State at home. And then the last game of the year in Ann Arbor — as good as Michigan has looked, I hope it's a great game, I'd still say right now give me Ohio State. So of all these issues that you could fix and which ones are the easiest and fixable, I would say it's the Buckeyes for sure."
 
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Clemson has a completely awful offense but sadly I'd still be surprised if they lose again. The 2 "best" teams left on their schedule are Louisville and Wake Forest (I know Boston College is still unbeaten but Jurkovec is out for the year and they looked bad with the backup QB vs Temple). The ACC is as big of a hot mess as the Pac 12, if not worse. Only hope is Va Tech or UNC getting a lot better before the ACC title game.
I dunno Clemson’s offense looks straight up broke right now. They look like they can lose to almost anyone.
 
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I dunno Clemson’s offense looks straight up broke right now. They look like they can lose to almost anyone.

Lawrence got all the accolades, but it was Travis Etienne that really made that offense hum for the past four seasons. Without that running/receiving threat out of the backfield defenses are free to tee off on Uiagalelei behind what appears to be a not-championship-caliber OL.

NC State always has loads of unheralded DL, and they have a really deep LB group this year. If the Wolfpack can somehow score 21 or 28, and I’ll admit that’s a big if, I think they could give Clemson problems this Saturday.
 
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Lawrence got all the accolades, but it was Travis Etienne that really made that offense hum for the past four seasons. Without that running/receiving threat out of the backfield defenses are free to tee off on Uiagalelei behind what appears to be a not-championship-caliber OL.

NC State always has loads of unheralded DL, and they have a really deep LB group this year. If the Wolfpack can somehow score 21 or 28, and I’ll admit that’s a big if, I think they could give Clemson problems this Saturday.

NC States offense looked like a dumpster fire against The Pirates Miss State squad. 10 points. Couldn’t run the ball at all (1.5 YPC)

They would need a couple of defensive TDs probably to get there.
 
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College Football Playoff Expansion Is in Peril: 'If This All Falls Apart, We’re Going to Get Hammered Publicly'

Ahead of a key meeting with CFP executives, the proposed 12-team model faces several new and existing hurdles.'

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For two long years, the four men kept their mission a secret.

Only a select group knew that conference commissioners Bob Bowlsby, Greg Sankey and Craig Thompson, as well as Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick, were tasked to explore proposals to expand the College Football Playoff. They examined well over 100 postseason formats, even kept specifics of the meetings hidden from their fellow commissioners and, after rigorous debate as well as data-driven analysis, agreed on a concept they thought was fair to each entity in college football: the Power 5, the Group of 5, the bowls and the fans.

And then, all hell broke loose.

The Pac-12 hired a new commissioner who is unafraid of publicly rattling the status quo. A wave of conference realignment, triggered by the impending SEC departures of Texas and Oklahoma, washed through the sport. And then, as if this wasn’t enough, three power conferences, each with a relatively new commissioner, announced the formation of a pact, the Alliance, that seems to have further divided the executive branch of college sports.

“We live in interesting times. I don’t know whether that is a curse or blessing,” says Mike Aresco, commissioner for the Group of 5’s American Athletic Conference. “A lot of things are converging at the same time. The system is under stress right now. But you deal with it. You don’t take it personally. You work through it.”

The shifting landscape, hurt feelings and public barbs have cast a shadow of doubt that leaders can agree both on a new playoff concept and the timing of expansion itself.

On Wednesday in Dallas, the CFP management committee—the 10 FBS commissioners plus Swarbrick—is scheduled to further explore the expansion issue. The hope is that it can create enough progress to bring a proposed recommendation to a scheduled meeting in Chicago next Tuesday with the CFP board of managers, a group of school presidents and the ultimate decision-makers in the playoff hierarchy.

Wednesday’s meeting marks the commissioners’ first face-to-face interaction since a cascade of decisions has disrupted college sports, though at least two of them will participate virtually (Pac-12 commissioner George Kliavkoff and C-USA commissioner Judy MacLeod).

They plan to review feedback from their respective member schools on the proposed 12-team expansion model and discuss how realignment impacts any future changes. Members of the four-man subcommittee, Swarbrick, Sankey, Bowlsby and Thompson, may give a more detailed explanation on how they arrived at the 12-team concept.

Lastly, there will likely be intense discussion about their disagreements, much of which has been aired across media platforms.

“We will discuss the things I’m reading about,” says Sankey, commissioner of the SEC. “I thought these things would be talked about in the room, but people have chosen to state their positions publicly. If everybody has to get everything on their Christmas list, we probably won’t come to a decision. It won’t be a happy Christmas morning.

“But if people are willing to compromise and engage in meaningful dialogue, which the format subcommittee certainly did, there’s an opportunity.”

Thompson, commissioner of the Mountain West, sees the latest qualms about the expansion model he helped craft as progress.

The system, he says, is working. “That was part of the process. We came up with a model. Now pick it apart and tear it up.”

Some are scrutinizing the proposal more than others. A variety of issues have bubbled to the surface over the last two months.

- Should the playoff include only eight teams, such as to avoid a further extension of the season?

- Should first-round games be hosted by bowls instead of played on campus, as to avoid the “winterization” of northern football stadiums and grant bowls more involvement?

- Should automatic bids be reexamined, as a way to guarantee specific leagues access?

- And finally, should expansion be delayed until the current contract is exhausted after the 2025 season, as to bring this lucrative idea to the open market for more financial benefit?

Of those aforementioned grievances, none may be as complicated as the Rose Bowl problem.
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Entire article: https://www.si.com/college/2021/09/22/college-football-playoff-expansion-future-12-teams
 
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“We will discuss the things I’m reading about,” says Sankey, commissioner of the SEC. “I thought these things would be talked about in the room, but people have chosen to state their positions publicly. If everybody has to get everything on their Christmas list, we probably won’t come to a decision. It won’t be a happy Christmas morning.

“But if people are willing to compromise and engage in meaningful dialogue, which the format subcommittee certainly did, there’s an opportunity.

Go fuck yourself you snake oil salesmen. Now he wants everything to be on the table.

- Should first-round games be hosted by bowls instead of played on campus, as to avoid the “winterization” of northern football stadiums and grant bowls more involvement?

Fuck the bowls. Come play in Columbus, Madison, Happy Valley, Ann A....LOL.

Of those aforementioned grievances, none may be as complicated as the Rose Bowl problem.

Nobody gives a shit about the Rose Bowl except old folks that can't realize the Granddaddy of Them All is now just the weird uncle that wants you to sit on his lap all the time.
 
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Go fuck yourself you snake oil salesmen. Now he wants everything to be on the table.



Fuck the bowls. Come play in Columbus, Madison, Happy Valley, Ann A....LOL.



Nobody gives a shit about the Rose Bowl except old folks that can't realize the Granddaddy of Them All is now just the weird uncle that wants you to sit on his lap all the time.

At the end of the day, the Rose Bowl has no power. ZERO. They are utterly dependent upon the B1G and the PAC, yet they have managed to con and corrupt that dynamic onto its head where the conferences act like they can't survive without the Rose Bowl. They have no NFL tenant, so they're fucked if they push their luck too far. Hell, if UCLA pulls out for SoFi stadium (which is half the distance from campus as Pasadena), they're proper fucked. Let them exist by holding monster truck rallies.
 
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College Football Playoff Expansion Is in Peril: 'If This All Falls Apart, We’re Going to Get Hammered Publicly'



Only a select group knew that conference commissioners Bob Bowlsby, Greg Sankey and Craig Thompson, as well as Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick, were tasked to explore proposals to expand the College Football Playoff.
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Entire article: https://www.si.com/college/2021/09/22/college-football-playoff-expansion-future-12-teams

1. How is it that Swarbirck gets to sit in on this group?
2. Where is the discussion on doing away with the bowl system and have a National Playoff System where games must be rotated through four regional sites?
 
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6. MICHIGAN WOLVERINES | 25.6%
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Through three non-conference games, Michigan has been thoroughly impressive. As a result, the Wolverines now have slightly better playoff chances than bitter rival Ohio State. Michigan starts Big Ten play this weekend against an undefeated Rutgers team, and then the Wolverines must go on the road to Wisconsin. Michigan also has to go on the road to Michigan State and Penn State while also hosting Ohio State in the regular season finale. It won’t be easy, but Michigan now has an identifiable path to the Big Ten Championship Game and CFB Playoff. The Wolverines just have to avoid any slip-ups since the Big Ten East looks like one of the strongest divisions in college football.

7. OHIO STATE BUCKEYES | 22.7%
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The Buckeyes currently have less than a one-in-four shot to make the Playoff. This isn’t a familiar spot for Ohio State, especially this early in the season. The fact that the Big Ten East looks like a strong division could both help and hurt the Buckeyes. Ohio State probably can’t afford another loss. No two-loss team has ever gotten into the playoff. On the other hand, the Buckeyes will have plenty of opportunities to boost their resume. If the selection committee has to decide between one-loss Ohio State and one-loss Clemson, the Buckeyes would probably be in the driver’s seat.

Just sayin': Obviously the ESPN FPI lacks any and all credibility.
 
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It won’t be easy, but Michigan now has an identifiable path to the Big Ten Championship Game and CFB Playoff.

What the fuck does that mean?

They've had an identifiable path the past 7 years. In fact every team does. It's called their schedule. Win the conference games on it and you go to Indy. Win all the games on it and you go to the CFP. Beating a couple of non conference teams doesn't make the path any more, or less, identifiable.

Sportswriters are the dumbest sonsofbitches Woody ever put on this planet.
 
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aTm at Cincinnati would be comical for the fan situation.

tOSU at Georgia would be fun to see.

MSU at Clemson is yawn.

ND at Iowa better be at night so the Kinnick magic can do its worst on ND.

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Just sayin': With that scenario, Ohio State would have 3 losses (Oregon, Ped State, and Sparty). I'm not sure a 3 loss team should be in the CFPs. Twelve teams might be too many. Eight might be the right number.
 
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Just sayin': With that scenario, Ohio State would have 3 losses (Oregon, Ped State, and Sparty). I'm not sure a 3 loss team should be in the CFPs. Twelve teams might be too many. Eight might be the right number.
Eight is definitely the right number. There's no bye weeks in the playoffs that way. It's only one more game than we have now so they don't have a month off in between CCG and playoffs. It has a reasonable scenario for all 5 major conferences to have their champ in it and then there's 3 at large. I dont see any negatives to 8.
 
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