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2020 ttun Shenanigans, Arguments, and Surrender Cobras (Confirmed COWARDS!)

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Okay, so digging a little deeper into this kernel of fun:

https://mgoblog.com/diaries/myths-and-half-truths-depth-look-michigan's-recruiting-process-someone-industry

Who?

If Matt Dudek was given a different title I guess there would be less concern about signing highly mediocre recruiting classes.

So basically confirming 100% what Wiltfong was talking about/criticizing.

So, again, 100% confirming the criticism of not being on par with other schools in how they do things.

But here’s where the REAL bullshit comes in strong.

Yes, Harbaugh’s staff turnover is strategic 3D chess, not related to staff with better options fleeing from the prospect of continuing to coach with him.

Harbaugh (HC) is 56 and appears to think 80s wrestling stars are at the cutting edge of cultural reference points for kids.

Don Brown (DC) is 64 and ranked 37th nationally and 6th in the B1G in 2019 recruiting according to 247, as much stock as you can put in that.

Ed Warinner (OL) is 58 and ranked 99th nationally and 23rd in the B1G for 2019 recruiting.

Mike Zordich (CB) is 56 and ranked 224th nationally and 47th in the B1G in 2019 recruiting.

Bob Shoop (unspecified D) is 53 and ranked 429th nationally and 99th in the SEC for 2019 recruiting.

Ben McDaniels (QB) is 39, doesn’t have a recruiting rank in 2019 due to no data points, and his only experience recruiting would be at Rutgers from 2014-2015; I’m gonna go out on a limb and say he wasn’t reeling in the 5-stars during that time.

Jay Harbaugh (RB) is 30, a clear nepotism hire, is ranked 412th nationally and 80th in the B1G in 2019 recruiting, and is without a doubt mostly worthless when it comes to player development.

Josh Gattis (OC) is 36, is ranked 200th nationally and 40th in the B1G for 2019 recruiting, but hell, let’s be charitable and call him decent because he had one year at Bama.

Sherrone Moore (TE) is 33 and ranked 14th nationally and 2nd in the B1G for 2019 recruiting, he seems to do a decent job at player development based on performance (although who knows how much of that is just an 80s inspired Harbaugh influence that relies so much on the position), so let’s call this the first coach on this list that even marginally fits the stated priority for Harbaugh.

Shaun Nua (DL) is 38 and is ranked 474th nationally and 92nd in the B1G for 2019 recruiting. Outside of one year at ASU, his entire coaching experience in development and recruiting is at Navy which in no way is applicable to major college football. I’ll be generous and call him a question mark in both regards.

Tank Wright (unspecified D) doesn’t have a profile anywhere but we’ll call him roughly 30 based on when he played, and has been a S&C coach up to this point, so no experience with position coaching or recruiting. We’ll be generous again and call him a question mark for both.

So, being extremely generous, that gives Harbaugh 4/11 coaches that even remotely hit the mark for “excellent coaches and recruiters” and more realistically it’s probably 2 or even 1 proven guys at this point pending how much time Gattis actually spends recruiting or with player development.

Then we get into the excuses with grades, not paying players, and the staff not caring about recruiting rankings (let’s ignore clearly being outclassed on the field to the tune of 1-9 against top ten teams under Harbaugh is also in the mix here).

So, in summary, their coaching staff still sucks and, shockingly, the DFBIA is delusional about it.

Re: Jay Harbaugh (RB) is 30, a clear nepotism hire, is ranked 412th nationally and 80th in the B1G in 2019 recruiting, and is without a doubt mostly worthless when it comes to player development.

Bob Shoop and Brian Jean-Mary join Michigan coaching staff, Jay Harbaugh promoted to special teams coordinator

Michigan has officially introduced two new defensive assistants to the staff. Brian Jean-Mary and Bob Shoop were added to the defensive side of the coaching staff on Saturday as Michigan continues to retool its coaching staff this offseason.

According to the release from Michigan on Saturday, Shoop will take on the role of safeties coach for the Wolverines. Jean-Mary will serve as linebackers coach. In addition, Michigan head coach Jim Harbaugh promoted his son, Jay Harbaugh, to special teams coordinator. Harbaugh will continue to coach the running backs as well.

“I am excited about the addition of Brian and Bob to our defensive coaching staff,” said Harbaugh. “Brian and Bob are well-respected, experienced coaches who represent great fits for the University of Michigan. Both coaches have experience coordinating some of the best defenses in the country, and their development of all-conference and future NFL players throughout their careers will benefit our program and student-athletes. Michigan Football looks forward to having Brian, Bob and their families join the University family.”

Entire article: https://collegefootballtalk.nbcspor...-shoop-brian-jean-mary-jay-harbaugh-promoted/
 
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Jay Harbaugh (RB) is 30, a clear nepotism hire, is ranked 412th nationally and 80th in the B1G in 2019 recruiting, and is without a doubt mostly worthless when it comes to player development.

Re-worked contract details of Michigan assistants revealed

Assistants Chris Partridge, Jay Harbaugh and Sherrone Moore also signed re-worked two-year deals that run through 2021.

The salaries are as follows:

Harbaugh: Year 1: $350,000. Year 2: $415,000.

Entire article: https://247sports.com/college/michi...harbaugh-brian-jean-mary-bob-shoop-142384676/

Just sayin': Do you think Hairbaugh is knowingly, intentionally, and/or purposely sacrificing the scUM football team so his son has a "high paying" job. I mean, who else (in their right mind) would pay Jay Harbaugh $415K?

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So Rosanne Barr using Jessica Alba beauty products doesn't make her Jessica Alba?

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Perhaps if you ate or drank them, it would.

On this day in Buckeye history (the date was January 18, 2001, exactly 17 years ago).....

JIM TRESSEL'S “310 DAYS” SPEECH MARKED THE TURNING POINT IN THE OHIO STATE VS. MICHIGAN RIVALRY



“I assure you that you will be proud of our young people in the classroom, in the community, and most especially in 310 days in Ann Arbor, Michigan, on the football field.”

Those words, spoken in front of a packed audience of Buckeye fans who'd suffered through an abysmal record against Michigan under the previous head coach, marked the turning point in the greatest rivalry in all of sports.

Jim Tressel made a promise on that day, all-but guaranteeing a win over the bitter rivals to the north before he'd even coached a single practice. And he delivered – not just 310 days later with that single 26-20 victory, but in all the years that followed.

Tressel's inaugural address changed the tone of the rivalry. In Columbus, it became the only game that matters. And it shows.

Tressel rattled off a 9-1 record in The Game in his 10 years at Ohio State before passing the torch to Urban Meyer, who went a perfect 7-0 in his seven years. Ryan Day has been at the helm for just one season, but through one game, he's 1-0.

Through 19 seasons after Tressel made his promise, Ohio State is 17-2 after a 2-10-1 record under John Cooper.

That speech flipped the rivalry. Now it's up to Day to keep it that way.

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...g-point-in-the-ohio-state-vs-michigan-rivalry


Off to fap now.
 
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Meanwhile some people appear to be catching on. :lol:
Harbaugh took over a team that was a laughing stock, and was NOWHERE NEAR respected! He wasn't hired to get a good team "over the top". He was the best coach available and willing to take over a joke of a team.

OSU and Michigan are in different stages of their existences. "Harbaugh's recruiting" or "Harbaugh's assistant coaching hires" have NOTHING to do with that! Michigan's problems pre-date Harbaugh.
In 2001, Jim Tressel took over an Ohio State team that had just gone 14-10 in the previous two seasons combined (8-8 in the Big Ten), from a coach who was 2-10-1 against Michigan and 3-8 in bowl games, with a program culture that included zero emphasis on academics (Reggie Germany's 0.0 GPA in 2000 ... Ohio State's #1* preseason ranking in 1998). In other words, pretty much a laughingstock and NOWHERE NEAR respected!

But in just two years, Tressel completely revamped the program, and in 2002 his team went 14-0 and won a national championship.

The MGoBlow poster disingenuously states that Harbaugh "was the best coach available and willing to take over a joke of a team." That's a complete crock of shit. Harbaugh was a rock star hire, a guy who'd put Stanford on the CFB map and had taken the 49ers to a Super Bowl. And he was a Michigan Man, one of Bo's boys. In 2015, Harbaugh was Michigan's first and only choice for head coach, and everybody in the CFB universe (except for BuckeyePlanet) thought he was the ultimate home run hire.

In contrast, Jim Tressel was about as far as possible from being a rock star hire. And let's not forget, Ohio State certainly did look for their rock star back in 2001, as the program heavily pursued both Oakland's Jon Gruden (the hottest name in NFL) and Oregon's Mike Bellotti (the hottest name in CFB). Ohio State also interviewed Buckeye legend Chris Spielman and a pre-Notre Dame Ty Willingham, who was then a super hot commodity due to his success at Stanford and his minority status.

After all the big names dropped out of contention, Ohio State was left with the unappealing choice between former Buckeye assistant Glen Mason (a minor branch of the Woody/Earle tree) or Jim Tressel, a relative no-name despite being a four-time national champion at the 1-AA level. Over protests from much of the Buckeye fan base, the administration took a chance on Tressel and the rest is history, as Ohio State is now firmly ensconced among the CFB elite. Meanwhile, rock star Jim-Bo is still trying to figure out how to find Indianapolis on the map....

But the MGoBlow poster is right about one thing: Harbaugh's recruiting and assistant coaching hires have nothing to do with Michigan's problems that pre-date Harbaugh. They do, however, continue those very same problems - arrogance, entitlement, unaccountability, laziness - which is certainly a good thing for Ohio State.
 
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In 2001, Jim Tressel took over an Ohio State team that had just gone 14-10 in the previous two seasons combined (8-8 in the Big Ten), from a coach who was 2-10-1 against Michigan and 3-8 in bowl games, with a program culture that included zero emphasis on academics (Reggie Germany's 0.0 GPA in 2000 ... Ohio State's #1* preseason ranking in 1998). In other words, pretty much a laughingstock and NOWHERE NEAR respected!

But in just two years, Tressel completely revamped the program, and in 2002 his team went 14-0 and won a national championship.

After all the big names dropped out of contention, Ohio State was left with the unappealing choice between former Buckeye assistant Glen Mason (a minor branch of the Woody/Earle tree) or Jim Tressel, a relative no-name despite being a four-time national champion at the 1-AA level. Over protests from much of the Buckeye fan base, the administration took a chance on Tressel and the rest is history, as Ohio State is now firmly ensconced among the CFB elite.

There are critical inflection points in any program's history. Choosing Tressel over Mason was one of the biggest in Ohio State history. Like Meyer after him, having someone who was of Ohio but not of Ohio State was the right balance. GBYAGYMSOB.
 
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In 2001, Jim Tressel took over an Ohio State team that had just gone 14-10 in the previous two seasons combined (8-8 in the Big Ten), from a coach who was 2-10-1 against Michigan and 3-8 in bowl games, with a program culture that included zero emphasis on academics (Reggie Germany's 0.0 GPA in 2000 ... Ohio State's #1* preseason ranking in 1998). In other words, pretty much a laughingstock and NOWHERE NEAR respected!

But in just two years, Tressel completely revamped the program, and in 2002 his team went 14-0 and won a national championship.

The MGoBlow poster disingenuously states that Harbaugh "was the best coach available and willing to take over a joke of a team." That's a complete crock of shit. Harbaugh was a rock star hire, a guy who'd put Stanford on the CFB map and had taken the 49ers to a Super Bowl. And he was a Michigan Man, one of Bo's boys. In 2015, Harbaugh was Michigan's first and only choice for head coach, and everybody in the CFB universe (except for BuckeyePlanet) thought he was the ultimate home run hire.

In contrast, Jim Tressel was about as far as possible from being a rock star hire. And let's not forget, Ohio State certainly did look for their rock star back in 2001, as the program heavily pursued both Oakland's Jon Gruden (the hottest name in NFL) and Oregon's Mike Bellotti (the hottest name in CFB). Ohio State also interviewed Buckeye legend Chris Spielman and a pre-Notre Dame Ty Willingham, who was then a super hot commodity due to his success at Stanford and his minority status.

After all the big names dropped out of contention, Ohio State was left with the unappealing choice between former Buckeye assistant Glen Mason (a minor branch of the Woody/Earle tree) or Jim Tressel, a relative no-name despite being a four-time national champion at the 1-AA level. Over protests from much of the Buckeye fan base, the administration took a chance on Tressel and the rest is history, as Ohio State is now firmly ensconced among the CFB elite. Meanwhile, rock star Jim-Bo is still trying to figure out how to find Indianapolis on the map....

But the MGoBlow poster is right about one thing: Harbaugh's recruiting and assistant coaching hires have nothing to do with Michigan's problems that pre-date Harbaugh. They do, however, continue those very same problems - arrogance, entitlement, unaccountability, laziness - which is certainly a good thing for Ohio State.
Couple that with the data (I believe) you presented some time ago about the time line for a coach to win a natty, and year six isn't looking pretty any way they cut it up north.
 
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