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Buckeye86
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Being realistic about their at best, shot in the dark and, at worst, outright shitty coaching hires (a strength and conditioning coach with literally no experience
) has the natives restless.
https://mgoblog.com/content/hello-tank-wright-and-john-shoop
Brian rightly points out that Shoop’s track record as a DC is meaningless because Don Brown, he doesn’t have much of a track record as a position coach, he’s a bad recruiter, and he’ll probably be gone in a year or two when someone gives him another shot as a DC.
He tries to put a positive spin on the Wright promotion by saying he is young and will probably work hard, because what else can you say about a guy that has not done the job before?
The DFBIA true believers are fascinatingly stupid; it’s not like the results on the field, on the recruiting tail, in the locker room, or just as an observer of Jim Harbaugh as a human being would lead anyone in their right mind to be optimistic about the direction of the program, and yet here they are, being grumpy that someone isn’t blowing smoke up their collective asses about two highly questionable coaching hires from a regime that is, between the decimation of their roster and coaching staff, practically falling apart.
) has the natives restless.https://mgoblog.com/content/hello-tank-wright-and-john-shoop
Brian rightly points out that Shoop’s track record as a DC is meaningless because Don Brown, he doesn’t have much of a track record as a position coach, he’s a bad recruiter, and he’ll probably be gone in a year or two when someone gives him another shot as a DC.
He tries to put a positive spin on the Wright promotion by saying he is young and will probably work hard, because what else can you say about a guy that has not done the job before?
The DFBIA true believers are fascinatingly stupid; it’s not like the results on the field, on the recruiting tail, in the locker room, or just as an observer of Jim Harbaugh as a human being would lead anyone in their right mind to be optimistic about the direction of the program, and yet here they are, being grumpy that someone isn’t blowing smoke up their collective asses about two highly questionable coaching hires from a regime that is, between the decimation of their roster and coaching staff, practically falling apart.
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Buckeye86
I do not choose to discuss it
Meanwhile some people appear to be catching on.Being realistic about their at best, shot in the dark and, at worst, outright shitty coaching hires (a strength and conditioning coach with literally no experience
https://mgoblog.com/content/hello-tank-wright-and-john-shoop
Brian rightly points out that Shoop’s track record as a DC is meaningless because Don Brown, he doesn’t have much of a track record as a position coach, he’s a bad recruiter, and he’ll probably be gone in a year or two when someone gives him another shot as a DC.
He tries to put a positive spin on the Wright promotion by saying he is young and will probably work hard, because what else can you say about a guy that has not done the job before?
The DFBIA true believers are fascinatingly stupid; it’s lot like the results on the field, on the recruiting tail, in the locker room, or just as an observer of Jim Harbaugh as a human being would lead anyone in their right mind to be optimistic about the direction of the program, and yet here they are, being grumpy that someone isn’t blowing smoke up their collective asses about two highly questionable coaching hires from a regime that is, between the decimation of their roster and coaching staff, practically falling apart.
But have no fear, the DFBIA true believers are all in on Ed Warriner being a good recruiter - not because of his results on the recruiting trail, but because one of their insiders with a track record of being full of shit has apparently said he doesn’t suck as bad as everyone thinks. He must come in second place a lot for all the elite prospects.
Just a quick refresher that they’ve had four top 100 players in their last three classes combined versus 25 for Ohio State over the same three years.
[I’m doing an insomnia fueled live stream read through of this thread, if that’s not apparent.]
Holy. Shit.
The DFBIA does not disappoint.
They’ve sucked ass for decades and it’s not Harbaugh’s fault. Rebuilding takes time and it apparently doesn’t matter that there’s no indication they’re going to improve in the next year or two... just gotta wait another five and cross your fingers, I guess.
Oh, but also they’re going to win a championship next year with talent and coaches that continue to get worse every year.
*checks last three seasons*
Lost to Penn State by 29, Ohio State by 23, Florida by 26, Wisconsin by 21, Ohio State by 29, and Bama by 19. Yep, this checks out.
Okay, last one and I’m done, although the hits just aren’t stopping.
They beat Iowa 10-3 this year and didn’t score a point after the first quarter.
Harbaugh lost to Bama 35-16 while Hoke lost to a 13-1 Bama team that won the national title 41-14.
Clearly a huge difference.
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ScriptOhio
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DECADE IN REVIEW: RANKING OHIO STATE'S TOP 10 PLAYS AGAINST MICHIGAN FROM 2010-19
It's been a decade of dominance over Michigan full of iconic plays. Here are the 10 best from 2010 to 2019.
HONORABLE MENTION: ZACH BOREN SACKS DEVIN GARDNER – 2012
It wasn't a game-breaking play like you'll see on the rest of this list, but Zach Boren's 2012 sack on Michigan quarterback Devin Gardner is one of the most iconic moments of the rivalry from the past decade and is probably most Buckeyes fans' strongest memory from the 2012 victory.
It might not rank in the top 10, but it's certainly worthy of an honorable mention.
10. JOEY BOSA PICKS OFF WILTON SPEIGHT – 2015
Ohio State gave Jim Harbaugh one hell of a welcome to the rivalry, blasting Michigan 42-13 in Jim Harbaugh's first rivalry game as the Wolverine's head coach.
Ezekiel Elliott was the player of the game, rushing for 214 yards and two touchdowns on 30 carries, but his former roommate had the play of the game when Joey Bosa tipped Wilton Speight's pass in the air, intercepted it and ran it back 30 yards to the 10-yard line.
The lone regret is that he didn't score.
9. HERE COMES THE BOOM – 2010
Ohio State had already buried Michigan when Daniel "Boom" Herron broke loose for the play of the game.
Herron took a Terrelle Pryor handoff at his own goal line, ran through one defender, and then was off to the races, running 98 yards downfield for a touchdown.
For a few seconds, it was the longest play from scrimmage in Ohio State football history until a late penalty flag was thrown on Dane Sanzenbacher for his downfield block, turning the 98-yard touchdown run into just a measly 89-yard rush.
It's still a touchdown in our hearts.
8. BRAXTON MILLER ENTERS THE FUN ZONE – 2013
Braxton Miller had all kinds of fun against Michigan in his final rivalry game as Ohio State's quarterback, scoring five total touchdowns, including this 54-yard run where he breaks a Michigan safeties ankles without breaking stride and stiff-arms another into the end zone.
It doesn't quite make the cut for this list, but we're not just going to forget about that time he blocked a Michigan defender with a Michigan defender, either.
7. JUSTIN FIELDS' BOUNCEBACK DAGGER – 2019
Ohio State was rolling against Michigan once again in 2019, but the mood among the Buckeye faithful grew pretty grim when Justin Fields went to the sideline after suffering when looked like a serious knee injury late in the third quarter.
Thankfully, he wasn't sidelined for long. He returned to action later in the drive and made the play of the game on his very first snap back in by rolling out to buy time, setting his feet and delivering a perfect pass to Garrett Wilson in the back corner of the end zone for a 30-yard dagger touchdown.
6. ZEKE PUTS THE GAME ON ICE – 2014
Michigan played Ohio State uncomfortably close during the Buckeyes' 2014 national championship season.
With starting quarterback J.T. Barrett out for the game (and the season) with an ankle injury, the Buckeyes found themselves facing a crucial 4th-and-1 while ahead just one score late in the fourth quarter.
Then, Ezekiel Elliott made a play.
Elliott got the one yard and then plenty more, taking a handoff 44 yards to the house to put the game on ice and send the Bucekyes to the Big Ten Championship game. You know the rest.
5. DWAYNE HASKINS STRIKES – 2017
A knee injury to J.T. Barrett forced redshirt freshman Dwayne Haskins into his first meaningful action as Ohio State's quarterback in the biggest rivalry in all of sports.
Haskins rose to the ocassion.
On his first drive, back-to-back false starts forced Ohio State into a 3rd-and-13 situation down six points on the road late in the third quarter. Haskins responded by uncorking a bullet to Austin Mack, threading a pass right between two Michigan defenders for a first down to extend the drive that would lead to a touchdown.
Buckeye fans had that play on loop all offseason.
4. MALIK HOOKER'S PICK SIX – 2016
Ohio State's offense could not get anything going against one of the nation's top defenses, so Malik Hooker took it upon himself to get some points.
Swarmed with pressure from the Buckeye pass-rush, Wilton Speight tossed up a duck right into the middle of the field. Hooker collected it and swiftly deposited it right into the end zone to give the Buckeyes one of just two touchdowns they'd score in regulation.
3. CHRIS OLAVE'S BLOCKED PUNT – 2018
Ohio State dominated most of the 2018 edition of The Game, but two quick Michigan scores at the end of the first half had the Wolverines right back in the game in the third quarter.
Chris Olave took care of that.
The freshman burst through the middle of the formation and flew to the football, blocking a punt and sending it right into the arms of Sevyn Banks, who took it into the end zone for a score.
Michigan never recovered, and the Buckeyes continued to put it on the "nation's best defense."
2. THE BROOKLYN DAGGER – 2016
This wasn't even Curtis Samuel's most impressive play of the drive, but it's certainly the most iconic.
The very next play after J.T. Barrett gave the Buckeyes an easy first down on fourth-and-1, Samuel broke loose behind a convoy of blockers and scampered 15 yards to give the Buckeyes a 30-27 double-overtime win over No. 3 Michigan and essentially punch their ticket to the College Football Playoff.
1. TYVIS POWELL SAVES THE GAME – 2013
The 2013 edition of The Game came down to one play – and Tyvis Powell came up huge.
Michigan scored a touchdown with just over 30 seconds to play in Ann Arbor to bring the Wolverines within one of the No. 3 Buckeyes. Michigan head coach Brady Hoke decided not to play for overtime, and went for the win with a two point conversion, but Powell read the play all the way.
The redshirt freshman stepped in front of a Devin Gardner pass and picked it off, sealing the game and preserving Ohio State's national title hopes with its 24th straight win.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...es-top-10-plays-against-michigan-from-2010-19
It's been a decade of dominance over Michigan full of iconic plays. Here are the 10 best from 2010 to 2019.
HONORABLE MENTION: ZACH BOREN SACKS DEVIN GARDNER – 2012
It wasn't a game-breaking play like you'll see on the rest of this list, but Zach Boren's 2012 sack on Michigan quarterback Devin Gardner is one of the most iconic moments of the rivalry from the past decade and is probably most Buckeyes fans' strongest memory from the 2012 victory.
It might not rank in the top 10, but it's certainly worthy of an honorable mention.
10. JOEY BOSA PICKS OFF WILTON SPEIGHT – 2015
Ohio State gave Jim Harbaugh one hell of a welcome to the rivalry, blasting Michigan 42-13 in Jim Harbaugh's first rivalry game as the Wolverine's head coach.
Ezekiel Elliott was the player of the game, rushing for 214 yards and two touchdowns on 30 carries, but his former roommate had the play of the game when Joey Bosa tipped Wilton Speight's pass in the air, intercepted it and ran it back 30 yards to the 10-yard line.
The lone regret is that he didn't score.
9. HERE COMES THE BOOM – 2010
Ohio State had already buried Michigan when Daniel "Boom" Herron broke loose for the play of the game.
Herron took a Terrelle Pryor handoff at his own goal line, ran through one defender, and then was off to the races, running 98 yards downfield for a touchdown.
For a few seconds, it was the longest play from scrimmage in Ohio State football history until a late penalty flag was thrown on Dane Sanzenbacher for his downfield block, turning the 98-yard touchdown run into just a measly 89-yard rush.
It's still a touchdown in our hearts.
8. BRAXTON MILLER ENTERS THE FUN ZONE – 2013
Braxton Miller had all kinds of fun against Michigan in his final rivalry game as Ohio State's quarterback, scoring five total touchdowns, including this 54-yard run where he breaks a Michigan safeties ankles without breaking stride and stiff-arms another into the end zone.
It doesn't quite make the cut for this list, but we're not just going to forget about that time he blocked a Michigan defender with a Michigan defender, either.
7. JUSTIN FIELDS' BOUNCEBACK DAGGER – 2019
Ohio State was rolling against Michigan once again in 2019, but the mood among the Buckeye faithful grew pretty grim when Justin Fields went to the sideline after suffering when looked like a serious knee injury late in the third quarter.
Thankfully, he wasn't sidelined for long. He returned to action later in the drive and made the play of the game on his very first snap back in by rolling out to buy time, setting his feet and delivering a perfect pass to Garrett Wilson in the back corner of the end zone for a 30-yard dagger touchdown.
6. ZEKE PUTS THE GAME ON ICE – 2014
Michigan played Ohio State uncomfortably close during the Buckeyes' 2014 national championship season.
With starting quarterback J.T. Barrett out for the game (and the season) with an ankle injury, the Buckeyes found themselves facing a crucial 4th-and-1 while ahead just one score late in the fourth quarter.
Then, Ezekiel Elliott made a play.
Elliott got the one yard and then plenty more, taking a handoff 44 yards to the house to put the game on ice and send the Bucekyes to the Big Ten Championship game. You know the rest.
5. DWAYNE HASKINS STRIKES – 2017
A knee injury to J.T. Barrett forced redshirt freshman Dwayne Haskins into his first meaningful action as Ohio State's quarterback in the biggest rivalry in all of sports.
Haskins rose to the ocassion.
On his first drive, back-to-back false starts forced Ohio State into a 3rd-and-13 situation down six points on the road late in the third quarter. Haskins responded by uncorking a bullet to Austin Mack, threading a pass right between two Michigan defenders for a first down to extend the drive that would lead to a touchdown.
Buckeye fans had that play on loop all offseason.
4. MALIK HOOKER'S PICK SIX – 2016
Ohio State's offense could not get anything going against one of the nation's top defenses, so Malik Hooker took it upon himself to get some points.
Swarmed with pressure from the Buckeye pass-rush, Wilton Speight tossed up a duck right into the middle of the field. Hooker collected it and swiftly deposited it right into the end zone to give the Buckeyes one of just two touchdowns they'd score in regulation.
3. CHRIS OLAVE'S BLOCKED PUNT – 2018
Ohio State dominated most of the 2018 edition of The Game, but two quick Michigan scores at the end of the first half had the Wolverines right back in the game in the third quarter.
Chris Olave took care of that.
The freshman burst through the middle of the formation and flew to the football, blocking a punt and sending it right into the arms of Sevyn Banks, who took it into the end zone for a score.
Michigan never recovered, and the Buckeyes continued to put it on the "nation's best defense."
2. THE BROOKLYN DAGGER – 2016
This wasn't even Curtis Samuel's most impressive play of the drive, but it's certainly the most iconic.
The very next play after J.T. Barrett gave the Buckeyes an easy first down on fourth-and-1, Samuel broke loose behind a convoy of blockers and scampered 15 yards to give the Buckeyes a 30-27 double-overtime win over No. 3 Michigan and essentially punch their ticket to the College Football Playoff.
1. TYVIS POWELL SAVES THE GAME – 2013
The 2013 edition of The Game came down to one play – and Tyvis Powell came up huge.
Michigan scored a touchdown with just over 30 seconds to play in Ann Arbor to bring the Wolverines within one of the No. 3 Buckeyes. Michigan head coach Brady Hoke decided not to play for overtime, and went for the win with a two point conversion, but Powell read the play all the way.
The redshirt freshman stepped in front of a Devin Gardner pass and picked it off, sealing the game and preserving Ohio State's national title hopes with its 24th straight win.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...es-top-10-plays-against-michigan-from-2010-19
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Buckeye86
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Okay, so digging a little deeper into this kernel of fun:
https://mgoblog.com/diaries/myths-and-half-truths-depth-look-michigan's-recruiting-process-someone-industry
But here’s where the REAL bullshit comes in strong.
Harbaugh (HC) is 56 and appears to think 80s wrestling stars are at the cutting edge of cultural reference points for kids.
Don Brown (DC) is 64 and ranked 37th nationally and 6th in the B1G in 2019 recruiting according to 247, as much stock as you can put in that.
Ed Warinner (OL) is 58 and ranked 99th nationally and 23rd in the B1G for 2019 recruiting.
Mike Zordich (CB) is 56 and ranked 224th nationally and 47th in the B1G in 2019 recruiting.
Bob Shoop (unspecified D) is 53 and ranked 429th nationally and 99th in the SEC for 2019 recruiting.
Ben McDaniels (QB) is 39, doesn’t have a recruiting rank in 2019 due to no data points, and his only experience recruiting would be at Rutgers from 2014-2015; I’m gonna go out on a limb and say he wasn’t reeling in the 5-stars during that time.
Jay Harbaugh (RB) is 30, a clear nepotism hire, is ranked 412th nationally and 80th in the B1G in 2019 recruiting, and is without a doubt mostly worthless when it comes to player development.
Josh Gattis (OC) is 36, is ranked 200th nationally and 40th in the B1G for 2019 recruiting, but hell, let’s be charitable and call him decent because he had one year at Bama.
Sherrone Moore (TE) is 33 and ranked 14th nationally and 2nd in the B1G for 2019 recruiting, he seems to do a decent job at player development based on performance (although who knows how much of that is just an 80s inspired Harbaugh influence that relies so much on the position), so let’s call this the first coach on this list that even marginally fits the stated priority for Harbaugh.
Shaun Nua (DL) is 38 and is ranked 474th nationally and 92nd in the B1G for 2019 recruiting. Outside of one year at ASU, his entire coaching experience in development and recruiting is at Navy which in no way is applicable to major college football. I’ll be generous and call him a question mark in both regards.
Tank Wright (unspecified D) doesn’t have a profile anywhere but we’ll call him roughly 30 based on when he played, and has been a S&C coach up to this point, so no experience with position coaching or recruiting. We’ll be generous again and call him a question mark for both.
So, being extremely generous, that gives Harbaugh 4/11 coaches that even remotely hit the mark for “excellent coaches and recruiters” and more realistically it’s probably 2 or even 1 proven guys at this point pending how much time Gattis actually spends recruiting or with player development.
Then we get into the excuses with grades, not paying players, and the staff not caring about recruiting rankings (let’s ignore clearly being outclassed on the field to the tune of 1-9 against top ten teams under Harbaugh is also in the mix here).
So, in summary, their coaching staff still sucks and, shockingly, the DFBIA is delusional about it.
https://mgoblog.com/diaries/myths-and-half-truths-depth-look-michigan's-recruiting-process-someone-industry
Who?
If Matt Dudek was given a different title I guess there would be less concern about signing highly mediocre recruiting classes.
So basically confirming 100% what Wiltfong was talking about/criticizing.
So, again, 100% confirming the criticism of not being on par with other schools in how they do things.
But here’s where the REAL bullshit comes in strong.
Yes, Harbaugh’s staff turnover is strategic 3D chess, not related to staff with better options fleeing from the prospect of continuing to coach with him.
Harbaugh (HC) is 56 and appears to think 80s wrestling stars are at the cutting edge of cultural reference points for kids.
Don Brown (DC) is 64 and ranked 37th nationally and 6th in the B1G in 2019 recruiting according to 247, as much stock as you can put in that.
Ed Warinner (OL) is 58 and ranked 99th nationally and 23rd in the B1G for 2019 recruiting.
Mike Zordich (CB) is 56 and ranked 224th nationally and 47th in the B1G in 2019 recruiting.
Bob Shoop (unspecified D) is 53 and ranked 429th nationally and 99th in the SEC for 2019 recruiting.
Ben McDaniels (QB) is 39, doesn’t have a recruiting rank in 2019 due to no data points, and his only experience recruiting would be at Rutgers from 2014-2015; I’m gonna go out on a limb and say he wasn’t reeling in the 5-stars during that time.
Jay Harbaugh (RB) is 30, a clear nepotism hire, is ranked 412th nationally and 80th in the B1G in 2019 recruiting, and is without a doubt mostly worthless when it comes to player development.
Josh Gattis (OC) is 36, is ranked 200th nationally and 40th in the B1G for 2019 recruiting, but hell, let’s be charitable and call him decent because he had one year at Bama.
Sherrone Moore (TE) is 33 and ranked 14th nationally and 2nd in the B1G for 2019 recruiting, he seems to do a decent job at player development based on performance (although who knows how much of that is just an 80s inspired Harbaugh influence that relies so much on the position), so let’s call this the first coach on this list that even marginally fits the stated priority for Harbaugh.
Shaun Nua (DL) is 38 and is ranked 474th nationally and 92nd in the B1G for 2019 recruiting. Outside of one year at ASU, his entire coaching experience in development and recruiting is at Navy which in no way is applicable to major college football. I’ll be generous and call him a question mark in both regards.
Tank Wright (unspecified D) doesn’t have a profile anywhere but we’ll call him roughly 30 based on when he played, and has been a S&C coach up to this point, so no experience with position coaching or recruiting. We’ll be generous again and call him a question mark for both.
So, being extremely generous, that gives Harbaugh 4/11 coaches that even remotely hit the mark for “excellent coaches and recruiters” and more realistically it’s probably 2 or even 1 proven guys at this point pending how much time Gattis actually spends recruiting or with player development.
Then we get into the excuses with grades, not paying players, and the staff not caring about recruiting rankings (let’s ignore clearly being outclassed on the field to the tune of 1-9 against top ten teams under Harbaugh is also in the mix here).
So, in summary, their coaching staff still sucks and, shockingly, the DFBIA is delusional about it.
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BayBuck
Buckeyes are best
Lol @ “John Shoop” in the URL.Being realistic about their at best, shot in the dark and, at worst, outright shitty coaching hires (a strength and conditioning coach with literally no experience
https://mgoblog.com/content/hello-tank-wright-and-john-shoop
Brian rightly points out that Shoop’s track record as a DC is meaningless because Don Brown, he doesn’t have much of a track record as a position coach, he’s a bad recruiter, and he’ll probably be gone in a year or two when someone gives him another shot as a DC.
He tries to put a positive spin on the Wright promotion by saying he is young and will probably work hard, because what else can you say about a guy that has not done the job before?
The DFBIA true believers are fascinatingly stupid; it’s not like the results on the field, on the recruiting tail, in the locker room, or just as an observer of Jim Harbaugh as a human being would lead anyone in their right mind to be optimistic about the direction of the program, and yet here they are, being grumpy that someone isn’t blowing smoke up their collective asses about two highly questionable coaching hires from a regime that is, between the decimation of their roster and coaching staff, practically falling apart.
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What the hell. I was looking at OL this week ad nothing could show the difference in the two programs in terms of recruiting and player development better (well QB but I digress):
2017 recruiting OL class
tsun: Ruiz is gone, Filiaga was a back up guard last year. Hall is gone. Honigford and Stueber have already been passed by younger guys per the same depth chart.
OSU: All American to All B1G caliber starters who are all back for '20.
I'd say OSU won this year
2018
tsun: Mayfield was the starting RT last year and returns in '20. Hayes was the backup at LT and heir apparent.
OSU: NPF is penciled in as the most likely starter at RT. All three guys were rated higher than the two tsun signed.
2019
tsun: near as I can tell, Rumler was the only one even in the two deep last year
OSU: oh look, more 5 star talent to reload with.
2020
looks like OSU went with two studs and three projects while tsun went with a gaggle of projects.
Recruiting rankings aren't predictive, we all know that but you can damn well see one program has a lot more room for error than the other at one of the most critical position groups on the field.
2017 recruiting OL class
tsun: Ruiz is gone, Filiaga was a back up guard last year. Hall is gone. Honigford and Stueber have already been passed by younger guys per the same depth chart.
OSU: All American to All B1G caliber starters who are all back for '20.
I'd say OSU won this year
2018
tsun: Mayfield was the starting RT last year and returns in '20. Hayes was the backup at LT and heir apparent.
OSU: NPF is penciled in as the most likely starter at RT. All three guys were rated higher than the two tsun signed.
2019
tsun: near as I can tell, Rumler was the only one even in the two deep last year
OSU: oh look, more 5 star talent to reload with.
2020
looks like OSU went with two studs and three projects while tsun went with a gaggle of projects.
Recruiting rankings aren't predictive, we all know that but you can damn well see one program has a lot more room for error than the other at one of the most critical position groups on the field.
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as a follow up here is their last two deep with the departures noted:
That should help the development of the new QB. No doubt about it.
That should help the development of the new QB. No doubt about it.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
What is this about "mechanic's shirts" that Harbaugh gave out and where do we get a pic of these magnificent things.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
One thing to consider is that just because one of their guys becomes a starter at tsun doesn't mean that he would have at Ohio State. Throw even their best guys into the deep end of the pool at WHAC, and I think more than a few sink like a stone. The cultural differences between the two programs screams it.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Our offensive line didn't give him a lube job before going in.
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BayBuck
Buckeyes are best
Apparently he recycled it from his time at SF:
https://larrybrownsports.com/footba...-niners-players-with-blue-collar-shirts/86539
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