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2020 Team Discussion Thread

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Taosman said:
I believe with the new testing teams will have better control of Covid outbreaks.
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Rapid tests have been available for months. I'm not an expert on the differences between the rapid tests that have been approved (some of them as long ago as the first week of July); but the experts I've heard express an opinion on the subject have said that the differences are not significant. As always, I'm open to new information if anyone has some.

Until and unless I hear new information... it seems to me that the B1G is being disingenuous with their insinuation that rapid testing is new. What appears to be new is the plan and the presentation by Dr. Borchers that relies heavily on rapid testing.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
:roll1: This is the sort of shit that causes you to vacate/forfeit games, championships, trophies, etc., and gets you banned from post-season play. If you're good enough, you don't have to resort to cheating.
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Nope. The NCAA is impotent to stop the cheating now. And it's not getting better at enforcement. You take advantage and you win it all. We all watched SEC officials rig a game to prevent us from playing for a National Championship and Ill never forgive those bastards. We were robbed on national TV in front of millions.
 
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DaddyBigBucks said:
Rapid tests have been available for months. I'm not an expert on the differences between the rapid tests that have been approved (some of them as long ago as the first week of July); but the experts I've heard express an opinion on the subject have said that the differences are not significant. As always, I'm open to new information if anyone has some.

Until and unless I hear new information... it seems to me that the B1G is being disingenuous with their insinuation that rapid testing is new. What appears to be new is the plan and the presentation by Dr. Borchers that relies heavily on rapid testing.
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The competition committee was presented 6 or 7 different daily rapid tests, which is actually quite remarkable. The ACC and SEC for example, are now testing 3 times a week.

With the FDA approval of emergency use saliva tests (developed by Yale and NBA) a true rapid test that could be conducted daily, and also being cheap, was a game changer.

And not to make it political, but the White House confirmed they'd help with the resources needed to make it available to Big 10. I can't say football is more important than anyone else, so that's somewhat interesting to me, but I think a large part of getting Big 10 approval was that players are tested daily, and if a test comes back positive they then need to take an FDA approved test, to confirm the initial positive, and the 21 days out is very penal compared to other conferences.
 
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billmac91 said:
The competition committee was presented 6 or 7 different daily rapid tests, which is actually quite remarkable. The ACC and SEC for example, are now testing 3 times a week.

With the FDA approval of emergency use saliva tests (developed by Yale and NBA) a true rapid test that could be conducted daily, and also being cheap, was a game changer.

And not to make it political, but the White House confirmed they'd help with the resources needed to make it available to Big 10. I can't say football is more important than anyone else, so that's somewhat interesting to me, but I think a large part of getting Big 10 approval was that players are tested daily, and if a test comes back positive they then need to take an FDA approved test, to confirm the initial positive, and the 21 days out is very penal compared to other conferences.
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One of the Rapid Tests that was developed months ago cost $5. Unless I hear something that suggests that reporting was flawed, I'm still not seeing the big change. As always, new information could change my mind.

One of the big changes that is less talked about is the fact that the advanced cardio-MRI devices that not every school had access to; all schools now have access to them. I guess that's a big deal, but then, their concern that myocarditis is a big deal was based on a study that was very obviously flawed on its face and they should have known better.
 
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DaddyBigBucks said:
One of the Rapid Tests that was developed months ago cost $5. Unless I hear something that suggests that reporting was flawed, I'm still not seeing the big change. As always, new information could change my mind.

One of the big changes that is less talked about is the fact that the advanced cardio-MRI devices that not every school had access to; all schools now have access to them. I guess that's a big deal, but then, their concern that myocarditis is a big deal was based on a study that was very obviously flawed on its face and they should have known better.
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That rapid test needed certified labs (certification through Yale) but many labs across the country have the equipment needed to become certified.

I believe the Oct 24th start date is due to these labs being certified. I'd imagine every Big 10 university is actively working with Yale to get their campus labs certified.

The rapid tests are only as amazing as the closest lab that can read the results. The NBA and Yale for example, were taking the daily saliva samples, and flying them to New Jersey, adding unnecessary time to the test. If they had a lab in Orlando, they could've gotten results in 1-2 hours for individual players. But because it was just the test phase, they opted to have all samples go to a Yale lab.

Once Yale confirmed the nasal swabs were matching the saliva samples, the FDA gave it emergency use authorization. Now that they have that authorization, it's on labs to work with Yale to make sure they're handling the samples properly and getting correct results.
 
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RYAN DAY
DAY IS EXCITED ABOUT YESTERDAY'S NEWS
  • One of the reasons I'm excited is we actually have something to talk about on the show!"
  • "They worked so hard to have an opportunity to play safely and compete for a championship and now they have that opportunity."
  • Day said it was great to have them smile at some good news yesterday.
GENE SMITH AND KRISTINA JOHNSON ANNOUNCED THE NEWS TO THE TEAM
  • "Their leadership over the last month has not been easy" day said they fought and showed strong leadership."
  • "Kristina Johnson is someone who's played sports before. She gets what it means to be an athlete."
  • "For them to announce that to the team, it was a great moment."
ON WYATT DAVIS AND SHAUN WADE
  • "At the time the information they had – they weren't going to revisit it."
  • "Now there's a whole new set of facts in front of them."
  • "Both of them shared that they wanted to play – there's a reason they came back."
  • On Wyatt Davis: "He'll be back on campus real soon."
  • "We'll kind of wait and see what happens on Shaun."
ON THE BIG TEN CONFERENCE
  • "One thing that I really learned during this is that when you're part of a conference you need everybody to work together."
  • Day said collaboration from everyone was important and he realized Ohio State couldn't do this or navigate the situation by themselves.
  • "Give the conference credit for adapting."
  • Day said the Big Ten didn't stick to their guns when new facts emerged, they changed their plans.
ON DEPTH BEING CRUCIAL
  • "At any moment, you could lose several guys at once."
  • "Make sure the depth is ready to roll at any moment."
ON JUSTIN FIELDS
  • "First off, Justin has had an unbelievable offseason."
  • "College football, Buckeye Nation and even us as coaches, to see him play for only one year would have been really tragic."
  • "I know he's got some unfinished business, he feels like."
ON THE BACKUP QUARTERBACKS
  • "Jack and CJ are out there learning every day."
  • Day said they haven't really been able to do team work, but they're still learning
  • "They're able to see Justin go to work every day."
  • "You have someone there to watch and learn how to be a pro."
ON THE WIDE RECEIVERS
  • "Still inexperienced and young, but as talented as I've ever been around."
  • Garrett Wilson's moved inside "a great opportunity for him."
  • Day also mentioned Jameson Williams as well as all of the freshman receivers as possible contributors.
  • Day said they're still working on getting Demario McCall on the field as both a running back and a wide receiver
  • "It's a good group. Mixed in with our tight ends and we feel like we've got a very good passing attack."
ON THE TIGHT ENDS
  • Day said he feels very good about the deep and experienced tight end room.
  • "Cade Stover's really come on, too" on Stover's move to tight end.
  • "Now, there's some good depth and experience in this group."
ON THE OFFENSIVE LINE
  • Day mentioned Harry Miller and Nicholas Petit-Frere as guys who could step up this year.
  • Day mentioned Dawand Jones and Paris Johnson Jr. as young talented guys, and Nicholas Petit-Frere and Thayer Munford as guys with more experience when it comes to the offensive tackle battle
  • Day mentions that Harry Miller has moved to guard and is competing for a starting spot.
  • They'll know more about the offensive line when you can put pads on, Day said.
ON WHEN THEY CAN WEAR PADS
  • Day said they'll be able to put pads on Sept. 30.
  • Until then, they wear foam pads and helmets.
ON POTENTIALLY LOSING PLAYERS FOR 21 DAYS DUE TO A POSITIVE TEST
  • "if it happens, it happens. We're just going to have to find a way to adapt."
  • Day points out that including walk-ons, they have 125 players on the roster.
  • "Some walk-ons might have to have a chance to play this season. That's just the way we're going to have to do it."
  • Day mentions that it's just going to be the next man up if they lose players.
ON PRACTICE SO FAR
  • "We need to get a lot of fundamental work in."
  • Day mentions it's been since December since they put on pads.
  • Day said they are prepared to gameplan for teams, and that it helps that they're familiar with each opponent, even though there are a couple of new coordinators.
  • Day said each coach has had more time than usual to come up with different schemes. "I'm expecting to see some wrinkles as the season goes."
ON THE RUNNING BACKS
  • "Master Teague has done a wonderful job at getting himself healthy again in such a short period of time."
  • Day was complimentary of Sermon as a player and a person.
  • "Again, we haven't seen him with pads on, but he's done everything we've asked of him since he's been here," Day said of Sermon. "We're excited to get him rolling."
  • "I think Steele Chambers had a great offseason," I think he's really going to have a chance to really help us this season."
  • "Looks good, he's kind of a bowling ball out there," Day said of Miyan Williams. Day said he's excited to see him put on pads.
ON THE DEFENSIVE LINE
  • "Really happy for Jonathon Cooper," Day said, after all he's gone through that he gets to have a season.
  • "It's hard because it's been a year since we've had pads on, but they look good and their attitudes are great."
  • "I was very impressed with how (Zach) Harrison developed quickly to play at a high level."
  • Day was complimentary of Javonte Jean-Baptiste, complimenting his length as a pass rusher.
ON THE LINEBACKERS
  • "I think the linebacker position is a very mature group," naming Tuf Borland, Pete Warner, Justin Hilliard and Baron Browning.
  • Day mentioned the younger guys like Dallas Gant and K'vaughan Pope as younger guys who could step up as well.
ON THE SECONDARY
  • Day notes that they lost Jeff Okudah, Damon Arnette and Jordan Fuller – all guys who are now first-teamers in the NFL.
  • "You don't just show up and put a new guy out there."
  • But Day mentions that a lot of those guys played in games last year.
  • "While they're inexperienced in starting and playing championship-level games, they have played football."
  • Day highlights Kourt Williams as someone to keep and eye on – "I think he can be a really, really good player."
 
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DaddyBigBucks said:
Rapid tests have been available for months. I'm not an expert on the differences between the rapid tests that have been approved (some of them as long ago as the first week of July); but the experts I've heard express an opinion on the subject have said that the differences are not significant. As always, I'm open to new information if anyone has some.

Until and unless I hear new information... it seems to me that the B1G is being disingenuous with their insinuation that rapid testing is new. What appears to be new is the plan and the presentation by Dr. Borchers that relies heavily on rapid testing.
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I don't think the tests themselves are new; it's the broader availability of the test kits that's new.
 
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ScriptOhio said:
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I think with the talent on this roster, its only unproven. But I expect guys to be able to replace the stars from last year. Though those 3 were every bit as important as when we lost Zeke, Big Bear and CantguardMike(though Urban didn't use him) in one year
A combo of Sermon/Teague should replace Dobbins, Harrison should be the next up to replace Young, and he also has a deep DE corps to help out, and Wade should slide into the shutdown CB position(though Okudah will be the hardest to replace, IMO). This is still a damn good roster and strong from top to bottom and I'd still feel confident against any team in the nation. Especially with the big chip on their shoulder from being 1 play from an NC(an NC I truly believe that we would've won)
 
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pnuts34 said:
I think with the talent on this roster, its only unproven. But I expect guys to be able to replace the stars from last year. Though those 3 were every bit as important as when we lost Zeke, Big Bear and CantguardMike(though Urban didn't use him) in one year
A combo of Sermon/Teague should replace Dobbins, Harrison should be the next up to replace Young, and he also has a deep DE corps to help out, and Wade should slide into the shutdown CB position(though Okudah will be the hardest to replace, IMO). This is still a damn good roster and strong from top to bottom and I'd still feel confident against any team in the nation. Especially with the big chip on their shoulder from being 1 play from an NC(an NC I truly believe that we would've won)
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I really think there's two players we will miss most.. Fuller and Young.
 
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