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2019 Fall Camp and Other Tidbits

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pnuts34 said:
That should be taken with the biggest grain of salt. I would hope that Hoak performs as good if not better, in a setting where they can't fully hit the QB, as he has been in a college system longer than Fields, who is still admittedly very raw, and still reminiscent of a young TP, who's still trying to learn to lead an offense more with his arm than his legs.
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Which is fine by me... I never had expectations of Justin dominating from a throwing stand point to begin with. I think 2020 is the year for Justin and as Ryan said you just hope we can weather the first 6 games.
 
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Many of us - myself included to an extent - have been led to believe that Fields will be the second coming of Trevor Lawrence. And he may yet be. (Lawrence's stats were not off the charts early in the season).

But the glass half full way to read the Tim May quote is that we are one snap away - not from a disaster - but from a serviceable QB. This is something that has been my biggest fear.
 
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The offense won’t be the same as last year. It will clearly be different.

It doesn’t have to be quite as potent. But there is enough playmakers and you presumably will have a starting QB with the ability to extend drives with his legs. So, I am fine being patient as the offense gels. Just need to limit our turnovers, especially early in the season as the offense is trying to find its stride. With Day at the helm and the weapons on offense, I have little doubt it will eventually get there.

On the other hand, I had little faith last year that the defense would ever improve for a variety of well discussed reasons. So if the D is going to make a big step forward which I expect, then I’m cautiously optimistic. I expect that side of the ball to start off better than last year and continue to get better and better. If you told me that by November they were considered good/very good then I’d not be surprised. And by that time I fully expect the offense to be in that category as well.

Last year was the most lopsided tOSU team in recent memory. Not a dominant run team, terrible defense and an electric passing game. That’s never been a typical OSU team.

This squad will be WAY more balanced while still retaining the possibility to have plenty of fire power offensively once they gel.

So whereas last year to me was an offense at an A grade and a defense with a C- grade I can see each being in the B+ to A- range.
 
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LovelandBuckeye said:
What were we talking about?
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NOTHING DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.

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ShowMeBuck said:
The offense won’t be the same as last year. It will clearly be different.

It doesn’t have to be quite as potent. But there is enough playmakers and you presumably will have a starting QB with the ability to extend drives with his legs. So, I am fine being patient as the offense gels. Just need to limit our turnovers, especially early in the season as the offense is trying to find its stride. With Day at the helm and the weapons on offense, I have little doubt it will eventually get there.

On the other hand, I had little faith last year that the defense would ever improve for a variety of well discussed reasons. So if the D is going to make a big step forward which I expect, then I’m cautiously optimistic. I expect that side of the ball to start off better than last year and continue to get better and better. If you told me that by November they were considered good/very good then I’d not be surprised. And by that time I fully expect the offense to be in that category as well.

Last year was the most lopsided tOSU team in recent memory. Not a dominant run team, terrible defense and an electric passing game. That’s never been a typical OSU team.

This squad will be WAY more balanced while still retaining the possibility to have plenty of fire power offensively once they gel.

So whereas last year to me was an offense at an A grade and a defense with a C- grade I can see each being in the B+ to A- range.
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Bingo!
But the offense was not an A in my book, more like a B+/B, because we were too damn reliant on the passing game.
And the defense was a D+, they were god awful by OSU standards. And the fact that fans, and analysts a like could pinpoint the deficiencies is a clear sign of just how bad the defense was.
 
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pnuts34 said:
Bingo!
But the offense was not an A in my book, more like a B+/B, because we were too damn reliant on the passing game.
And the defense was a D+, they were god awful by OSU standards. And the fact that fans, and analysts a like could pinpoint the deficiencies is a clear sign of just how bad the defense was.
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Yeah I would agree that a one dimensional offense doesn’t warrant an A but 50 TD passes is good for at least a B+

And true on the defense being a D+

I truly see a team equally talented on each side so that’s what I mean by balanced more so than offensively balanced.

I’m not sure what to think about offensive balance. I think the tendency of Day might normally be 55-45 pass to run but that’s just a hunch. Hard to judge his preference on last year given DHs advanced passing skills. Still I think Day is a throw first kind of guy but who knows?

This year is so hard for me to predict. I’ve no clue about how Fields will do in the passing game. I suspect he has very good/elite legs so that’s promising. But that’s what’s weird to me, I am more confident in my totally unknown QB with regards to the run game than I am in the actual RB position given JKs drop off last year and the totally unproven depth at the position.

In fact, come to think of it, it’s interesting how little conversation I’ve seen comparatively about the RB position. The production coming from that position is a total wildcard to me.
 
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ShowMeBuck said:
Yeah I would agree that a one dimensional offense doesn’t warrant an A but 50 TD passes is good for at least a B+

And true on the defense being a D+

I truly see a team equally talented on each side so that’s what I mean by balanced more so than offensively balanced.

I’m not sure what to think about offensive balance. I think the tendency of Day might normally be 55-45 pass to run but that’s just a hunch. Hard to judge his preference on last year given DHs advanced passing skills. Still I think Day is a throw first kind of guy but who knows?

This year is so hard for me to predict. I’ve no clue about how Fields will do in the passing game. I suspect he has very good/elite legs so that’s promising. But that’s what’s weird to me, I am more confident in my totally unknown QB with regards to the run game than I am in the actual RB position given JKs drop off last year and the totally unproven depth at the position.

In fact, come to think of it, it’s interesting how little conversation I’ve seen comparatively about the RB position. The production coming from that position is a total wildcard to me.
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If he stays healthy, J.K.'s going to kill it this year. Running QB threat plus being the man plus losing fat plus what I believe will be a better run block OL = much better J.K. results.
 
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