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2018 Week 14 CFB Open Thread

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Buckeye513 said:
I would say that Georgia would probably have a better shot at winning two playoff games than Notre Dame, Oklahoma, and Ohio State. I also don't give a shit and wouldn't put them in because they didn't win their conference.

Frosted Tips is right in that there will be an argument for them, and shit like that is why I have no interest in expanding the field but think that there absolutely needs to be a conference championship requirement.
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They no doubt have an argument... but they also have 2 losses.

If it's not OSU then give me UGA instead of OU.
 
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Buckeyebred97 said:
Georgia shits the bed again
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Jake said:
Dumb ass Fresno State player gets himself tossed for targeting 56 seconds into the game.

I hate the one and done ejection rule, but when you come in helmet first on a sliding QB you have to know what's going to happen.
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Not when it happens to Haskins. Instead they give an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty to Ohio State's head coach
 
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Buckeye513 said:
I would say that Georgia would probably have a better shot at winning two playoff games than Notre Dame, Oklahoma, and Ohio State. I also don't give a shit and wouldn't put them in because they didn't win their conference.

Frosted Tips is right in that there will be an argument for them, and shit like that is why I have no interest in expanding the field but think that there absolutely needs to be a conference championship requirement.
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I don't agree with a conference championship requirement, because I don't think that process is fair. Consider how lopsided many divisions in the P5 are (i.e. the BIG East/West). Often times, 1 division has 2 very strong teams that are pretty much comparable. If one of them was in the other division, that would change the Conference Champion.


For example: Every year, Wisconsin gets to coast through a schedule of nobodies, while the BIG East champion must knock off OSU/UM/MSU/PSU.
If one year, Wisconsin finally "gets lucky" and beats us off a fluke/off a blocked punt in the CCG, a week after we beat Michigan in a brawl by 1 point - I would argue that UM and OSU are still likely better teams than Wisconsin. "Any given Saturday", the weaker team may still win. But 9/10, I'm taking OSU/UM over Wisconsin going forward. I sure as hell do NOT want Wisconsin embarassing the BIG in the playoffs just because they coasted through a weak division and got to take down a gassed East Champion after their rivalry game.


I think the Playoff Committee has it right - it should be the "Best" 4 teams (i.e. the 4 teams most likely to win a National Championship), without introducing artificial constraints (i.e. the 4 teams most likely to win a National Championship who were selected for and won their conference championship games).


Just my $0.02
 
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redguard117 said:
I don't agree with a conference championship requirement, because I don't think that process is fair. Consider how lopsided many divisions in the P5 are (i.e. the BIG East/West). Often times, 1 division has 2 very strong teams that are pretty much comparable. If one of them was in the other division, that would change the Conference Champion.


For example: Every year, Wisconsin gets to coast through a schedule of nobodies, while the BIG East champion must knock off OSU/UM/MSU/PSU.
If one year, Wisconsin finally "gets lucky" and beats us off a fluke/off a blocked punt in the CCG, a week after we beat Michigan in a brawl by 1 point - I would argue that UM and OSU are still likely better teams than Wisconsin. "Any given Saturday", the weaker team may still win. But 9/10, I'm taking OSU/UM over Wisconsin going forward. I sure as hell do NOT want Wisconsin embarassing the BIG in the playoffs just because they coasted through a weak division and got to take down a gassed East Champion after their rivalry game.


I think the Playoff Committee has it right - it should be the "Best" 4 teams (i.e. the 4 teams most likely to win a National Championship), without introducing artificial constraints (i.e. the 4 teams most likely to win a National Championship who were selected for and won their conference championship games).


Just my $0.02
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If that’s the case, then give Notre Dame the UCF treatment. Undefeated Season doesn’t mean shit if you don’t do anything beyond beating one truly quality (gross) opponent in week 1...

An undefeated season shouldn’t be an automatic qualifier if you yourself have an easier pass to the playoffs than any other team contending for it.
 
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kujirakira said:
"if you didnt play in one of these games... there's nothing like a conference championship... i dont think you deserve to go"
- SECN guy on CFB Final.
Guarantee he had a different tune last year
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Buckeyebred97 said:
ESPN justifying Georgia as a top 4 team in the country and that they should be in the playoff despite a 20 point loss to LSU...Oklahoma has a better loss of 3 points to a top 20 team...and 1 loss not 2. Guess that’s the whole SEC losses don’t matter effect.
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To both these points. If their conference wasn’t built on self-cannibalizing themselves and actually had to test themselves out of conference, this isn’t even a discussion. But that only applies to teams in the Big Ten, Big XII and PAC 12.

If Georgia wants to huff and puff their way into contention, then Michigan should have as big a claim at a playoff spot as they do. Similar W/L, blowout loss to Top 10 team, narrow loss to top 3 team, etc.

But fuck that, Michigan doesn’t belong in the equation and neither does UGA.
 
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If the domers get rolled over in the playoffs I think they lose that benefit of the doubt even with an unbeaten record till they get in a conference. I hope they fall to 4 and get boat raced by Bama and Clemson rips Oklahoma. NC game ratings will be lower and will show both ND and OU weren’t even close. We might have not stood a chance but our fans follow very well and ratings jump. Just some hope for the future.
 
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TooTallMenardo said:
To both these points. If their conference wasn’t built on self-cannibalizing themselves and actually had to test themselves out of conference, this isn’t even a discussion. But that only applies to teams in the Big Ten, Big XII and PAC 12.

If Georgia wants to huff and puff their way into contention, then Michigan should have as big a claim at a playoff spot as anyone. Similar W/L, blowout loss to Top 10 team, narrow loss to top 3 team, etc.

But fuck that, Michigan doesn’t belong in the equation and neither does UGA.
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Completely agree
 
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redguard117 said:
I don't agree with a conference championship requirement, because I don't think that process is fair. Consider how lopsided many divisions in the P5 are (i.e. the BIG East/West). Often times, 1 division has 2 very strong teams that are pretty much comparable. If one of them was in the other division, that would change the Conference Champion.


For example: Every year, Wisconsin gets to coast through a schedule of nobodies, while the BIG East champion must knock off OSU/UM/MSU/PSU.
If one year, Wisconsin finally "gets lucky" and beats us off a fluke/off a blocked punt in the CCG, a week after we beat Michigan in a brawl by 1 point - I would argue that UM and OSU are still likely better teams than Wisconsin. "Any given Saturday", the weaker team may still win. But 9/10, I'm taking OSU/UM over Wisconsin going forward. I sure as hell do NOT want Wisconsin embarassing the BIG in the playoffs just because they coasted through a weak division and got to take down a gassed East Champion after their rivalry game.


I think the Playoff Committee has it right - it should be the "Best" 4 teams (i.e. the 4 teams most likely to win a National Championship), without introducing artificial constraints (i.e. the 4 teams most likely to win a National Championship who were selected for and won their conference championship games).


Just my $0.02
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You could argue any year during the Saban era that Alabama has a better chance at winning any single game than any team in the country.

How many losses would they need to end a season with for that to no longer matter?
 
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Buckeye513 said:
You could argue any year during the Saban era that Alabama has a better chance at winning any single game than any team in the country.

How many losses would they need to end a season with for that to no longer matter?
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I agree with that statement - that's why I personally agreed with the committee's decision to select Alabama last year (and they promptly waxed Clemson by 3 TDs)

To the second question - who knows? There's an extreme scenario of a 10-2 Bama vying for selection with 4 12-0/11-1 teams, but let's cross that bridge if it ever arises.
 
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