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2018 Week 14 CFB Open Thread

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Jake said:
Two seasons ago the Buckeyes last two games were a 1 point squeaker over Sparty and an OT win over scUM, didn't even reach the B1G title game, yet got in the CFP.

Did this bias just start? Where was it then?

We were given the benefit of the doubt two years ago and shit the bed by 31 points against Clemson. It's now 3 years in a row where the Bucks have gotten destroyed in a game, the last 2 by teams far worse than Clemson. To think that doesn't influence people who aren't members of this forum is to be in denial.
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So what is the statute of limitations on that 2016 CFP loss to Clemson then?

Seems like another standard OSU is held to and other teams, from other conferences that have a different financial relationship with ESPN, are not.
 
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redguard117 said:
I don't agree with a conference championship requirement, because I don't think that process is fair. Consider how lopsided many divisions in the P5 are (i.e. the BIG East/West). Often times, 1 division has 2 very strong teams that are pretty much comparable. If one of them was in the other division, that would change the Conference Champion.


For example: Every year, Wisconsin gets to coast through a schedule of nobodies, while the BIG East champion must knock off OSU/UM/MSU/PSU.
If one year, Wisconsin finally "gets lucky" and beats us off a fluke/off a blocked punt in the CCG, a week after we beat Michigan in a brawl by 1 point - I would argue that UM and OSU are still likely better teams than Wisconsin. "Any given Saturday", the weaker team may still win. But 9/10, I'm taking OSU/UM over Wisconsin going forward. I sure as hell do NOT want Wisconsin embarassing the BIG in the playoffs just because they coasted through a weak division and got to take down a gassed East Champion after their rivalry game.


I think the Playoff Committee has it right - it should be the "Best" 4 teams (i.e. the 4 teams most likely to win a National Championship), without introducing artificial constraints (i.e. the 4 teams most likely to win a National Championship who were selected for and won their conference championship games).


Just my $0.02
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I agree....imagine if they let us in the Playoffs WITHOUT A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP in 2015....

They hadn't come that far in their idiotic thinking at that point and missed out on the class that really had the BEST argument with one loss to MSU.

And therefore, 12 of our team members left for the NFL without a second consecutive National Championship

EDIT: LOL we're behind and noticed someone just mentioned that
 
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I don't care what anyone says....Clemson is the team these asshats should be questioning. Going 13-0 against fucktards like North Carolina or even Boston College.

Dabo Swinney and his ugly face did exactly what he set out to do this year, manipulate the committee and everyone else into thinking high scores = CFP berth. They've been there before, right? And won? Well sorry, Dabo your plan is about to backfire. My only additional wish is @ the end of his game as a loser he should be punched in the face.

Btw.... I do think Clemson does have a good front seven. Maybe. Still hate them.
 
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UrbanBuckeye said:
I don't care what anyone says....Clemson is the team these asshats should be questioning. Going 13-0 against fucktards like North Carolina or even Boston College.

Dabo Swinney and his ugly face did exactly what he set out to do this year, manipulate the committee and everyone else into thinking high scores = CFP berth. They've been there before, right? And won? Well sorry, Dabo your plan is about to backfire. My only additional wish is @ the end of his game as a loser he should be punched in the face.

Btw.... I do think Clemson does have a good front seven. Maybe. Still hate them.
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ND is this x100. The only redeeming thing about Clemson is they killed practically every opponent other than Syracuse, and they won 13 games + a conference title. ND played a similar schedule (a little tougher bc TTUN) but won games where they had common opponents with OSU, Clem, and UCF by much less.
 
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I can live with 5. Whatever. But 6? That's basically saying even if OU lost yesterday, Georgia would be in instead of us. Absolutely insane. Nope not watching a single second of CFP this year. SEC once again will have a losing record in the bowl games but for some inexplicable reason will still be seen as the dominant conference going into next year. While B1G will be seen as equivalent to the PAC 12 despite the former nearly going undefeated in bowl games.

Fuck the committee, fuck Delaney for being a spineless useless representative, and shame on Schiano for being unable to put together a marginally functional defense when we had the best passing offense this conference has ever fucking seen. 2 tackles for our starting LBs yesterday is not gonna cut Mr. Schiano.

Whew ok I got that off my chest. I'm good now.
 
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redguard117 said:
I agree with that statement - that's why I personally agreed with the committee's decision to select Alabama last year (and they promptly waxed Clemson by 3 TDs)

To the second question - who knows? There's an extreme scenario of a 10-2 Bama vying for selection with 4 12-0/11-1 teams, but let's cross that bridge if it ever arises.
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That's my point though, if the criteria for a team getting in is "most likely to win two playoff games", why is that extreme? If Alabama had lost to Louisville, Mississippi, and Texas A&M, would they still not have the GOAT coach, NFL talent everywhere, and a ton of dominant performances? Why keep them out when they would still be more likely to beat Oklahoma, Clemson, and ND than anyone else?

A conference championship requirement helps clarify a process that's never going to be perfect. Uneven divisions aren't any less fair than uneven conferences.
 
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Buckeye513 said:
That's my point though, if the criteria for a team getting in is "most likely to win two playoff games", why is that extreme? If Alabama had lost to Louisville, Mississippi, and Texas A&M, would they still not have the GOAT coach, NFL talent everywhere, and a ton of dominant performances? Why keep them out when they would still be more likely to beat Oklahoma, Clemson, and ND than anyone else?

A conference championship requirement helps clarify a process that's never going to be perfect. Uneven divisions aren't any less fair than uneven conferences.
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Choose one:

- a 3 loss Alabama

- Alabama with a GOAT coach, NFL talent everywhere, and a ton of dominant performances.



Alabama hasn't lost 3 games in 8 years.

I think an Alabama team that accumulates 3 losses under Nick Saban clearly has fundamental flaws and talent deficiencies. A 3 loss Alabama this year, for example, would not be viewed as likely to beat OU, Clemson, or ND.

My hypothetical was a 2 loss Alabama, because I can see a dominant team dropping 1 in the regular season (i.e. OSU 2015) and losing a CCG. I can't see a 3 loss team as ever being regarded as dominant.
 
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