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2018 tOSU Defense Discussion

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jwinslow said:


I'd like to see this and Pryor as the 5th DB. His struggles as a safety are much greater than in coverage. He is also much better equipped to stuff the run or disrupt a screen pass than Wade.
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And this mainly showed in his HS film. He was an enforcer and not the cover S at IMG. If he plays, he needs a security blanket on the other side, but problem is, most teams can create a mismatch with him and send their RB or athletic TE at him for a big gain
 
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The D is getting closer imho. The DL is looking good, sometimes fantastic, even with a few guys being banged up. LB play has improved significantly. Safety play is starting to solidify as Pryor is getting more reps. The CB play now needs to improve as there has been a drop off. Too many PI calls and too many guys getting beat. Shore up the CB play and they should be good to go.
 
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Arnette is grabby; Sheffield can’t win a 50/50 to save his life. He kind of reminds me of Chimdi Cheka — always had excellent position but never seemed to be able to make a play on the ball with any consistency.

I’m not saying the secondary is bad by any means but I think some of the issues are kind of obvious.
 
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MGMT said:
Arnette is grabby; Sheffield can’t win a 50/50 to save his life. He kind of reminds me of Chimdi Cheka — always had excellent position but never seemed to be able to make a play on the ball with any consistency.

I’m not saying the secondary is bad by any means but I think some of the issues are kind of obvious.
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Sheffield has been fine IMO... he's shorter so jump balls are how you attack him. Teams seem to go after Arnette though.

I do think the defense has oddly somehow improved. I'll give the defense this they really tigthen up near the end zone.

Without big plays this is probably a top 5-10 scoring defense which is what matters most.

Once Pryor came in the second half the defense changed
 
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URBAN MEYER LOOKING FOR OHIO STATE DEFENSE TO “BUILD ON POSITIVES”

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Unless you’ve been off the grid for the past six weeks, you’ve probably already heard that Ohio State’s defense isn’t performing up to expectations.

The Buckeyes currently rank just 56th in the Football Bowl Subdivision in total defense, having allowed 365.2 yards per game, and 29th in scoring defense with 20 points given up per game. The Buckeyes have been statistically mediocre in both passing defense and rushing defense, allowing just under seven yards per pass attempt (6.97, ranking them 59th in the FBS) and just over four yards per rushing attempt (4.03, 60th in the FBS).

Since giving up 31 points on 392 yards to Oregon State in the season opener, including seven plays of 20-plus yards, the Buckeyes defense hasn’t had marked improvement. Big plays have continued to be a problem through the team’s first six games, and they allowed 26 points on 406 yards against Indiana on Saturday.

That said, there have been some positives. After giving up a 45-yard run on their opening series Saturday, the Buckeyes’ rushing defense was strong for the rest of the game, holding the Hoosiers to just 84 yards on 21 carries with no rushing touchdowns. While the passing defense struggled mightily in the first half, it was better too in the second half, when the Hoosiers only scored once and gained 89 total yards of offense.

Ohio State ranks second in the Football Bowl Subdivision with 22 sacks and in the top 20 nationally in percentages of both third-down conversions allowed (30.3) and fourth-down conversions allowed (28.6). They have forced 10 turnovers, including three that have become defensive touchdowns, through six games.

Most importantly, the defense has at least done enough for the Buckeyes to win every game, as they enter this week’s game against Minnesota with a 6-0 record.

Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer knows his team’s defense needs to get better. But he remains confident that those positives form a strong foundation off which the defense can improve.

“You look at the last half of the game, they held them (under) 100 yards, against Indiana, in the second half and also created a couple of turnovers, stopped them on fourth down,” Meyer said. “So there's a lot of positives.

“What happens on the negative are interference calls or jump balls, type things. And we look at everything, overanalyze everything. So it's not as simple as this (just fixing one thing), it's a variety of things,” Meyer continued. “But we try to build on positives, and the positives are that the second half, they played outstanding. Against Penn State, we gave up some yards, but it was 14-13 going into the fourth quarter. So there are some positive things.”

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...-for-ohio-state-defense-to-build-on-positives

Re: Most importantly, the defense has at least done enough for the Buckeyes to win every game, as they enter this week’s game against Minnesota with a 6-0 record.

Which is what is the most important of all statistics.
 
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MGMT said:
Arnette is grabby; Sheffield can’t win a 50/50 to save his life. He kind of reminds me of Chimdi Cheka — always had excellent position but never seemed to be able to make a play on the ball with any consistency.

I’m not saying the secondary is bad by any means but I think some of the issues are kind of obvious.
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It concerns me that opponents have figured out that if they're faced with third and long, they can always just throw up a lame jump ball, and our CBs will either allow the pass to be completed or get flagged for a PI call. Granted, some of this is due to your Big Ten officials being just awful at their job and making a call where there shouldn't be one, but in any event, it's not a good look for the D when those low-conversion rate downs do, in fact, get converted.
 
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I also think they are turning the corner. The D-line was very spent and banged up after Penn State. The secondary is making great improvements, our man coverage will look much better over the next couple games when they don't have to hold up for 7 seconds.
 
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buckeyesin07 said:
It concerns me that opponents have figured out that if they're faced with third and long, they can always just throw up a lame jump ball, and our CBs will either allow the pass to be completed or get flagged for a PI call. Granted, some of this is due to your Big Ten officials being just awful at their job and making a call where there shouldn't be one, but in any event, it's not a good look for the D when those low-conversion rate downs do, in fact, get converted.
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OSU has the 15th lowest/best opponent 3rd down conversion % in the country (130 teams total) at 30.34%

Bama is 13th at 29.07%
Clemson is 7th at 27.16%
Georgia is 23rd at 32.84%
 
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Jaxbuck said:
OSU has the 15th lowest/best opponent 3rd down conversion % in the country (130 teams total) at 30.34%

Bama is 13th at 29.07%
Clemson is 7th at 27.16%
Georgia is 23rd at 32.84%
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Yeah, I'm sure it's one of those things that seems worse than it really is, I guess. I would be interested in knowing whether on 3rd and long (say 10+ yards), what our opponents' conversion rate is, and how that stacks up, but I'd imagine that's not available.
 
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