2018 QB Battle Discussion

[pnuts34]

Sam Bradford.

and the huge caveat to that last sentence is: IF Urban lets them

Didnt Urban also coach Alex Smith? He didnt have the arm of Haskins, but was good enough at moving the pocket, like Haskins. And Wilson also made Sudfield look damn good in his offense at IU

 

[redguard117]

Yet you still spell his name wrong

Blame my phone. I'll be peering over your posts with a fine-toothed comb going forward

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

This

We have seen the QB's with the extreme skill sets (Miller, Jones) and we have seen JT Barrett be no worse than "above average" in any skill category.

My gut tells me Haskins ends up giving way to Martel because from what limited playing time I have seen his lack of running ability (both zone read and actual running) is alarming.

The other part of me thinks Wilson/day can design the offense around a one dimensional passing QB if need be so we shall see

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EDIT: @AuTX Buckeye for beating me to the punch

 

[Onebuckfan]

You can't improve his speed. If you think defenses dared JT to keep it so the backs never get the rock, just wait.

Exactly and why I think Urban May lean Martell but won’t disclose nothing till he has too. He doesn’t want to discourage anybody.

 

[Taosman]

This

We have seen the QB's with the extreme skill sets (Miller, Jones) and we have seen JT Barrett be no worse than "above average" in any skill category.

My gut tells me Haskins ends up giving way to Martel because from what limited playing time I have seen his lack of running ability (both zone read and actual running) is alarming.

The other part of me thinks Wilson/day can design the offense around a one dimensional passing QB if need be so we shall see

I think the offensive coordinators can make all the difference.
As proof of concept I give you most of Wilson's QBs. Including 2 Heisman winners who weren't gifted runners.
"Kevin Wilson began his rise up the college football ranks in 2002 when he took over as the co-offensive coordinator of the Oklahoma Sooners. From 2002-2010, five of Wilson’s Sooners offenses rank in the top 10 of Oklahoma scoring offenses of all-time. His scheme produced Heisman Trophy winners in Sam Bradford and Jason White."

 

[MaxBuck]

Didnt Urban also coach Alex Smith? He didnt have the arm of Haskins, but was good enough at moving the pocket, like Haskins. And Wilson also made Sudfield look damn good in his offense at IU

Alex Smith's athleticism dwarfs that of Haskins.

 

[ShowMeBuck]

If Urban can’t win with a QB who can throw like Haskins can with the offensive skill players he is bringing in; to say nothing of the defensive talent every year then he has lost his touch in Xs and Os and he should let it be fully a Wilson/Day system.

 

[jwinslow]

Didnt Urban also coach Alex Smith? He didnt have the arm of Haskins, but was good enough at moving the pocket, like Haskins. And Wilson also made Sudfield look damn good in his offense at IU

Smith is considerably more agile than Haskins.

 

[Thump]

What are the odds on Haskins vs. Martell starting next year?

 

[HabaneroBuck]

Of the three QB's, Martell is probably the most prototypical of Urban QB's (Tebow, Braxton, and JT levels of running.) Burrow is strikingly similar to Alex Smith (though Alex Smith did have 284 rushes in two years at Utah!). Haskins is more along the lines of Troy Smith, with less leg ability. I have no idea what the point of this post is, but those are my hot takes!

I'll trust the coaches.

 

[UpNorth_Buckeye]

What are the odds on Haskins vs. Martell starting next year?

I'd say and Burrow. Maybe 50% Haskins 40% Burrow 10% Martell.

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

What are the odds on Haskins vs. Martell starting next year?

First game 100% Haskins vs Martell.

I mentioned it in the Barrett thread but Urban will not name Martell the smarter outside of something drastic until at least mid season if at all. Urban will not destroy his QB depth by naming Martell and having Haskins and Burrow transfer leaving only a true freshman as the ONLY scholarship backup.

 

[MaxBuck]

First game 100% Haskins vs Martell.

I mentioned it in the Barrett thread but Urban will not name Martell the smarter outside of something drastic until at least mid season if at all. Urban will not destroy his QB depth by naming Martell and having Haskins and Burrow transfer leaving only a true freshman as the ONLY scholarship backup.

I agree. The real question is who will be the starter in game 5. I say Martell.

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

I agree. The real question is who will be the starter in game 5. I say Martell.

Unless we’re 2-2or worse it will be Haskins or Burrows

 

[MaxBuck]

Unless we’re 2-2or worse it will be Haskins or Burrows

Agree to disagree.