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2018-2019 College Basketball Discussion (Official Thread)



I saw a Syracuse-Arizon game from the nosebleed seats at the Carrier Dome circa 1995. It's a long damn way to the court/

it's criminal that a guy who shoots 46% from three while averaging 33 minutes has attempted only 4.4 three-pointers per game. that alone tells me that boynton doesn't know what he's doing with his team.

this is one of my gripes about diebler and the 2010-11 season. i know we had plenty of offensive firepower other than jon, but he should have nonetheless averaged more than 6 three-pointers per game, especially since he averaged 36 minutes. worst of all was the 4/7 performance against kentucky. competent coaching would have had him at 10+ attempts. the staff should have had him running through double- and triple-screens all game long. you-know-who throwing up 16 bricks was an abomination.

i'm never going to get over that kentucky game.

Preach. Right up there with 1998 MSU in football on my worst OSU losses ever list. The one time in my life that OSU had hands down the best team in the country and they ran into the one team that was a really lousy matchup for them and then let it slip away, mainly for the reason you state and also due to being a little soft.
 
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it's criminal that a guy who shoots 46% from three while averaging 33 minutes has attempted only 4.4 three-pointers per game. that alone tells me that boynton doesn't know what he's doing with his team.

this is one of my gripes about diebler and the 2010-11 season. i know we had plenty of offensive firepower other than jon, but he should have nonetheless averaged more than 6 three-pointers per game, especially since he averaged 36 minutes. worst of all was the 4/7 performance against kentucky. competent coaching would have had him at 10+ attempts. the staff should have had him running through double- and triple-screens all game long. you-know-who throwing up 16 bricks was an abomination.

i'm never going to get over that kentucky game.
Diebs was on a roll at the end of that year. But in that game he did injure his shoulder slightly. I never chalked that loss up to him not getting more shots, though. Softness defensively in the post in the first half hurt them. Being a position defense team in the paint is not ideal in the NCAA tourney where often the team that protects the rim the best wins. Craft didn't draw the charge call on a Liggins drive for a crucial basket with about a minute left. It was hard for anybody to score against that KY team. OSU would have been smart to run a play where they passed to Sully off the backboard in the halfcourt because the KY shotblockers were very aggressive and would have been beaten on the putback.

The main thing that bothers me about that team is how does Deshaun Thomas play like an all-Big Ten forward as a sophomore but couldn't get regular minutes as a freshman, and he clearly had scoring skill that could have helped them, and although his D was weak he didnt get much of a chance to play. I saw him dominate in high school, and it was as if he took a big step back as a freshman in college.
 
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But in that game he did injure his shoulder slightly.
and yet diebler played all 40 minutes, shot 57% behind the arc, and canned the tying three-pointer from 25 feet with 20 to go.

i don't fault our defense for that game. lauderdale would have played more than 5 minutes if he had any offensive game. and in the few minutes thomas played, he was a turnstile. anyway, if you can't beat a talented team despite holding them to 62, the issues are elsewhere. buford did a lot of great things for us and i'm certainly happy that he was a buckeye, but the 2/16 performance was the dagger versus kentucky. if he's reined back even slightly, we leave with a win.
 
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and yet diebler played all 40 minutes, shot 57% behind the arc, and canned the tying three-pointer from 25 feet with 20 to go.

i don't fault our defense for that game. lauderdale would have played more than 5 minutes if he had any offensive game. and in the few minutes thomas played, he was a turnstile. anyway, if you can't beat a talented team despite holding them to 62, the issues are elsewhere. buford did a lot of great things for us and i'm certainly happy that he was a buckeye, but the 2/16 performance was the dagger versus kentucky. if he's reined back even slightly, we leave with a win.

This is what I remember most from that game. Buford just wasn't hitting that night, and yet he wouldn't stop shooting. It was the basketball equivalent of Joe Bauserman's performance in Lincoln, Nebraska in 2011--at some point, it's on the coaches to take the ball out of his hand.
 
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i don't fault our defense for that game. lauderdale would have played more than 5 minutes if he had any offensive game. anyway, if you can't beat a talented team despite holding them to 62, the issues are elsewhere.
Uconn scored 56 points vs KY in the F4 and won. They had two NBA guards and still mustered only 56, but it was good enough because they held KY to 55.
 
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Uconn scored 56 points vs KY in the F4 and won. They had two NBA guards and still mustered only 56, but it was good enough because they held KY to 55.
what an odd hill to die on. between our defense holding kentucky to 62 and one of our players shooting 13% on 16 shots, you think the bigger issue here is that we didn't hold them to 59 points? really?

lemme put it in a different way that should hammer home what the bigger problem was...

if matta had been offered before the game that he could have either kentucky scoring 62 points or buford shooting 2/16, which one do you think he'd take?
 
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what an odd hill to die on. between our defense holding kentucky to 62 and one of our players shooting 13% on 16 shots, you think the bigger issue here is that we didn't hold them to 59 points? really?

lemme put it in a different way that should hammer home what the bigger problem was...

if matta had been offered before the game that he could have either kentucky scoring 62 points or buford shooting 2/16, which one do you think he'd take?
Probably the 62, but that is not the prize it might seem to be, though. KY had held 3 quality opponents under 60 in the previous 4 games and the other had 63 in an 8-point loss to KY, plus this particular game was bound to be a slow paced grinder.
 
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Louisville is another heavily stumbling down the stretch team who is likely going to back in to the dance due to a couple of wins earlier in the season.

They've now lost 6 of their last 8, including a loss to an abysmal Boston College team last night.

Lunardi had them as a 6 seed in the 2/26 bracketology.....
 
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Washington, the only team in the Pac-12 projected as basically a lock to make the tournament, just lost to Cal :lol:

I expect the Pac-12 will end up being a 2-bid league because the likelihood of Washington winning the auto bid is not very good.
 
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Murrary State will be a interesting case if they fail to win the OVC tourney

They sit at 52 in the NET right now, But i'm going to assume they would still get a heavy look just because of how weak the rest of the bubble is coupled with Ja Morant's star power.

Belmont (45 in NET) was the far superior team in the only regular season meeting, winning by 13 @ Murray State
 
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