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2017 tOSU Offense Discussion

Couple things.. we brought back the tight end as a lead blocker which really opened some lanes for out guys.

JT threw a little late a few times and also missed about 3 or 4 crossing routes that probably should have been easy completions too. However if we are going to bitch about completing 66% of his passes then that's a damned good problem to have.

Maryland played a crap load of zone and JT also made some really great throws. The one to Dixon, Mack and Victor (last two going for scores) were throws JT hasn't made until this season.

We went deep a few times and while we didn't complete any we drew at least 3 pass interference calls which is great too. He still gave his guys a chance to make a play though which again is something JT hasn't done until this season.
 
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Winner, winner chicken dinner. Some posters seem to expect perfection on every throw and there's not one quarterback in the world that can make a perfect throw every time.

To be fair, people mostly criticize his down field passing. The stats clearly show a sub 40% career success rate on this and that isn't very good.

I've never seen anyone state they expect perfection.
 
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To be fair, people mostly criticize his down field passing. The stats clearly show a sub 40% career success rate on this and that isn't very good.

I've never seen anyone state they expect perfection.
Not to mention the bubble screens and pop pass inflate the completion percentage. That's for most college qbs as those plays have increased in popularity.

No one expects perfect. There are far worse than JT but there are better as well. He is showing signs of improvement but I saw late throws, throws behind guys, and twice he didn't see wide open guys in the end zone, KJ on one scramble and Dobbins running the wheel route was 10 yards behind the defense and he never saw him.

I'm not ready to exclaim JT de-Becked or fixed just yet, we have been playing some bad defenses.
 
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Not to mention the bubble screens and pop pass inflate the completion percentage. That's for most college qbs as those plays have increased in popularity.

No one expects perfect. There are far worse than JT but there are better as well. He is showing signs of improvement but I saw late throws, throws behind guys, and twice he didn't see wide open guys in the end zone, KJ on one scramble and Dobbins running the wheel route was 10 yards behind the defense and he never saw him.

I'm not ready to exclaim JT de-Becked or fixed just yet, we have been playing some bad defenses.

De-Becking is a process. :wink:
 
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My main issue now, as we seem to have fixed the "run around for awhile and then throw it out of bounds" problem, is that the ball is still slow to get there on many throws. If he can't get it there against State Penn, Wisky, Lite, and scum, I don't want it thrown. Some of those horizontal routes have pick six all over them.
 
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My main issue now, as we seem to have fixed the "run around for awhile and then throw it out of bounds" problem, is that the ball is still slow to get there on many throws. If he can't get it there against State Penn, Wisky, Lite, and scum, I don't want it thrown. Some of those horizontal routes have pick six all over them.

I have cringed on a handful of throws in each game of this part of the schedule. I am pretty sure some would have been catastrophic against a better defense.
 
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REPLACING BRANDEN BOWEN, AND CANDIDATES TO PUSH MATTHEW BURRELL FOR OHIO STATE'S OPENING AT RIGHT GUARD

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Since Urban Meyer arrived at Ohio State, his offensive line has been among the healthiest in the country.

Since 2012, the Buckeyes have started the same offensive line in their season opener as they have in the season finale, but that will not be the case in 2017, as Branden Bowen suffered a season-ending leg injury in Ohio State's 62-14 victory over Maryland on Saturday.

Bowen, a first-year starter, beat out the likes of Matthew Burrell, Demetrius Knox and Malcolm Pridgeon for the starting right guard spot out of fall camp. He was also a backup tackle for the Buckeyes, filling in for Jamarco Jones for a drive against Indiana in which Burrell moved to right guard.

With Bowen out, Burrell got the first reps and finished the game with both the first- and second-team offensive lines. That said, Urban Meyer did not rule out the possibility of a competition for reps at right guard moving forward.

"Next man up right now looks like Matt Burrell. And we'll see if there's any competition at that spot," Meyer said. "That's alarming, but Matt played OK. So we'll see what happens there."

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...urrell-for-ohio-states-opening-at-right-guard
 
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FILM STUDY: OHIO STATE'S EFFECTIVE GAME PLAN TO ATTACK THE PERIMETER OF MARYLAND'S 3-4 DEFENSE

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Though the offense as a whole failed to move the ball consistently in their lone loss of the season thus far, it's easy to forget that Ohio State still averaged a solid 4.91 yards-per-attempt against the Sooners.

That should come as no surprise to those watching the Urban Meyer era closely in Columbus, as his teams have always made the inside running game the foundation of their game plans. Typically, that has meant a reliance on the 'tight zone' run meant to hit the 'A' gap opposite the back's alignment, with the runner reading the double-team block(s) in front of him.

Given that Meyer has been leading teams for the better part of two decades, opponents have caught on and tried to find ways to slow down the basis of his offense. One of the most successful ways of doing so has been the use of 'odd' defensive fronts that place a nose tackle directly over the Buckeyes' center.

Typically, defenses like to put their linemen in the gaps between blockers, allowing them to more easily fill any potential running lanes. But against teams like the Buckeyes that rely so heavily on the tight zone, odd alignments render the critical double-team blocks neutral, as blockers are forced to choose between doubling a down lineman or getting upfield to take out a linebacker, often leaving their teammates in a vulnerable position.

The Buckeyes have seen a number of variations on this tactic ever since Virginia Tech caught them off-guard with the 'Bear' front four seasons ago. But Maryland typically runs a three-man front, allowing them to easily slide last Saturday into an alignment their opponents typically find so uncomfortable.

Unlike the Bear, which places both defensive ends over the offensive guards, the Terrapin ends lined up just on the inside shoulders of Ohio State's tackles in a 4i look.

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For anyone looking for evidence the Buckeye offense has improved under the leadership of Kevin Wilson and Ryan Day, last weekend's systematic demolishing of this odd front (against an in-conference opponent, no less), should offer plenty.

Ohio State had struggled in recent years to find any offensive rhythm against such looks, even when facing far lesser opponents than Maryland. But the Terps proved to be no match this year, as even though much of the focus was (justifiably) on the Buckeyes' 303 passing yards that afternoon, they also racked up 281 yards on the ground at an efficient clip of 5.6 ypc.

With so much focus on the Buckeye passing game, it's been easy to overlook how relatively vanilla their run game had been so far this year, relying almost exclusively on tight zone and showing few of the other wrinkles we've become used to in Meyer's offense (such as Counter-trey, Buck Sweep, and the Jet Sweep). This has been partly due to their opponents' reliance on four-man fronts that leave the natural A-gap 'bubble' for the tight zone to hit.

But this week the game plan for running the football offered a buffet of options to attack the edges of the Maryland defense, as the 4i look of both defensive ends created natural running lanes of their own. The most common way the Buckeyes attacked them was with 'Bash,' the concept that flips the typical tight zone on its head by swapping the roles of the running back and quarterback. With the end aligned inside, the tackle can easily leave him unblocked to be read and get upfield to set the crucial block on a linebacker at the second level.



Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...attack-the-perimeter-of-marylands-3-4-defense
 
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Football: Ohio State wide receivers relying on J.T. Barrett as he depends on wideouts growth

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Ohio State redshirt quarterback J.T. Barrett is a confident player and has never been one to say he doubts his wide receivers.

Through the issues in the passing game, Barrett has remained steadfast in critique of himself and timing difficulties with his targets. But his confidence in his receivers hasn’t faltered. Likewise, the trust the wideouts have in Barrett hasn’t wavered.

Now, it seems that mutual conviction is becoming legitimate with Barrett’s confidence in his arm and his receivers growing with each throw. It has manifested itself in a third different wideout — Johnnie Dixon, Parris Campbell and now Binjimen Victor— emerging as a potential go-to target for the third straight week.

“Not a jump, but a steady incline [from the receivers],” head coach Urban Meyer said. “Very pleased with their attitude and they’re making plays.”

Four throws in Saturday’s 62-14 Ohio State victory against Maryland exemplified the strengthening connection between Barrett and his receivers.

On Ohio State’s first offensive series, Barrett rifled a third-down pass between two defenders to Dixon to move the chains. Barrett later connected with the 6-foot-4 Victor on third-and-6 from the Maryland 8-yard line in the back of the end zone for a score.

Sophomore wideout Austin Mack caught a back-shoulder fade for 20 yards on the following drive, and then hauled in a touchdown reception with a defender on his back while getting two feet in bounds with 10 seconds left in the half.

Barrett deserves credit for his play — including 20-of-31 passing for 261 yards and three touchdowns Saturday — and the play-calling has improved. However, the wide receivers have also managed to get open more recently, which has allowed the quarterback to build confidence and compete at a tempo the team will need in a showdown with Penn State in three weeks.

“It’s great seeing [Barrett] make those passes and having confidence in us to make those contested catches,” Mack said. “Shoot, keep it coming.”

Entire article: https://www.thelantern.com/2017/10/...j-t-barrett-as-he-depends-on-wideouts-growth/
 
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Football: Ohio State hopes to get the Baugh rolling

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With five minutes remaining in the second half, redshirt senior quarterback J.T. Barrett found his tight end, redshirt senior Marcus Baugh, on a crossing route just in front of the line of scrimmage.

Baugh caught the pass and appeared to run out of room with sophomore defensive back Antoine Brooks charging toward him at the 4-yard line, but the 6-foot-5, 250-pound tight end hurdled the defender, landed in bounds and lumbered the rest of the four yards into the end zone to extend Ohio State’s lead to 26-7.

“I [hurdled] in high school a couple times, but yeah got to protect myself,” he said after the game Saturday. “You just waiting and looking at their body language when they try to come and make the tackle and you just react.”

Though Baugh’s impact was felt in Saturday’s game, and the athleticism he showed on his touchdown highlighted why expectations remain high on Baugh, he has fallen short of the lofty standards set by Ohio State tight ends during Urban Meyer’s tenure as head coach.

Since Meyer took the reins in 2012, tight ends have been responsible for 13 percent of receiving touchdowns. Meyer has relied heavily on tight ends like Jeff Heuerman and Nick Vannett during his tenure, but has not been able to count on the same level of production from Baugh. Ranked as the fourth-best tight end in the 2013 class by 247Sports’ composite rankings, Baugh began his Buckeye career with expectations that he could continue production at the position.

In Baugh’s second season as the starting tight end, he has accounted for only three touchdowns and 367 yards — 7 percent of the team’s receiving touchdowns and 7.8 percent of the receiving yards in that time span.

Meyer mentioned on Sept. 28 that Baugh still has a ways to go until he is ready to be a reliable weapon in the passing game. He said he is seeing improvements in Baugh and by forcing targets to the tight end, Meyer can help him realize his potential.

Since Meyer said that, Baugh has made four catches for 29 yards and caught his lone touchdown of the season. Though the strides Baugh are making have been far from the progress the team hoped for him to make, Meyer has noticed an improvement.

“Marcus Baugh is really coming on at the right time,” Meyer said after Saturday’s game. “So I think he’s getting much better. And he’s hitting his stride a little bit.”

Entire article: https://www.thelantern.com/2017/10/football-ohio-state-hopes-to-get-the-baugh-rolling/
 
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We're getting 8 yards per carry and [Mark May] and people aren't paying attention to the run game at all. How damn spoiled are we?
I've been saying since the OU loss that our strength needs to be the run game in order to find offensive success. It plays into the strength of the OL as well as our RBs and HBs
 
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Ohio State Football Notebook: ‘If it was that simple, I’d do that’

New Looks

Last Saturday against Maryland, the Buckeyes showed the latest wrinkle on offense by incorporating a tight end into the backfield with J.T. Barrett in the pistol with a running back behind him. The look essentially made the tight end a fullback. Ohio State has shown similar looks in past seasons, but this was a new one for the Buckeyes this year.

Where did it come from?

“We’re always looking for ways to make things better,” Urban Meyer said. “We studied a couple of offenses and obviously Kevin Wilson and Ryan Day brought this to my attention and what I thought.”

So will we continue to see more of it? And if so, what is next?

“We ran it 20 times in the game,” he said. “We’re still working on it. It’s a new play and obviously once you have a play you have to build off of it, play-action passing, etc. But it was very effective and we’re going to continue using it.”

Entire article: https://theozone.net/2017/10/ohio-state-football-notebook-simple-id/
 
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