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2017 Offensive Coordinator Discussion

Urban's issue is he's loyal to a extreme fault. He gives people multiple opportunities to right their wrongs and yes it can cost him sometimes.
Where is he loyal to a fault? He acted pretty quickly and decisevely when the D needed an overhaul three years ago. I don't think it was unreasonable to give Warriner/Beck two years. If those two are still in the same role next year, you have a case, but I don't see giving somebody two years as unreasonable.
 
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I'll throw this out there, too...I think Chip Kelly is a pipe dream. He's gonna be paid by two teams to do nothing next year. He can take the year off and wait for another major HC job to open up while recharging his batteries. He'll be a HC at a major.program again soon.

That doesn't mean you don't call him, but I'd be surprised to see him take a coordinator job when he doesn't have to. Would love to have him, though.
 
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Where is he loyal to a fault? He acted pretty quickly and decisevely when the D needed an overhaul three years ago. I don't think it was unreasonable to give Warriner/Beck two years. If those two made still in the same role next year, you have a case, but I don't see giving somebody two years as unreasonable.
Hey I agree with you but when you're trying to beat the Alabama's of the world you can't afford to wait too long.
 
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Hey I agree with you but when you're trying to beat the Alabama's of the world you can't afford to wait too long.
No, you can't. But I don't think two years is too long. We were never supposed to be in this position this year, so I'm sure he saw it as a chance for them to prove everyone wrong with a young team. If it didn't work out, you move on with a loaded team in 2017. That's exactly where we are. We just went further than we really had any business going this season.

If anything, you now know you are probably just the right OC from getting back to the top. We're pretty damned spoiled as a fanbase when an 11-2 season and a playoff apearance as the youngest team in FBS has us up in arms.
 
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No, you can't. But I don't think two years is too long. We were never supposed to be in this position this year, so I'm sure he saw it as a chance for them to prove everyone wrong with a young team. If it didn't work out, you move on with a loaded team in 2017. That's exactly where we are. We just went further than we really had any business going this season.

If anything, you now know you are probably just the right OC from getting back to the top. We're pretty damned spoiled as a fanbase when an 11-2 season and a playoff apearance as the youngest team in FBS has us up in arms.
And I agree with that sentiment. I think many (myself included) are up in arms with just how bad we have looked against good defenses. We have won many games the last two years because we flat out are the most talented team in the big ten. I'm not expecting 56 every week but I'm tired of seeing us destroy shit teams to inflate numbers and then we can barely get 200 yards total offense against teams that can swing back.

We made some errors hiring in the past with withers and now this year's offensive staff. Much like the loss to Clemson in the Orange Bowl though I find it necessary for these games to generate change.
 
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And I agree with that sentiment. I think many (myself included) are up in arms with just how bad we have looked against good defenses. We have won many games the last two years because we flat out are the most talented team in the big ten. I'm not expecting 56 every week but I'm tired of seeing us destroy [Mark May] teams to inflate numbers and then we can barely get 200 yards total offense against teams that can swing back.

We made some errors hiring in the past with withers and now this year's offensive staff. Much like the loss to Clemson in the Orange Bowl though I find it necessary for these games to generate change.
Change is a must, no doubt. And us having one of the three best coaches in the sport (in my IMO) leads me to believe it'll happen.
 
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