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2017 College Football Playoffs (and Other Bowl Games)

I don't think we should even bother making a thread for the National Championship. From what I've seen on this board, there'll only be a couple people watching.

We should make a thread titled "What I'm doing instead of watching the SEC Circle Jerk".
I plan to rearrange my sock drawer or maybe schedule another Colonoscopy 3 years before it's time.
 
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And now UCF is paying Frost and his assistants their "national championship" bonuses. Think about this for a moment. UCF soaked the students and academic side for a $26M subsidy last year, and now they're throwing half a million dollars at a group of coaches over a made up championship, and those coaches aren't even going to be there next year. This is why you can't let mid-majors have nice things.
 
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All this ad nauseam CFP discussion aside it's good to remember how fickle the selection process has been the past (4) years:

2014 if JT doesn't get injured and replaced by a well rested CJ who has a (3) game run for the ages. If sadly Kosta Karageorge, Zeke's close friend, doesn't pass away inspiring Zeke and his teammates to go on a (3) game run for the ages.



Starting with a 59-0 clocking of Wisky which propelled the Buckeyes into the playoffs. TCU was the pissed off 2014 team whose only loss was 61-58 to Baylor. btw, one must admire the Big12 for their consistency in refusing to play defense! :biggrin2:

Moving along to 2015 and Arkansas' miracle play against Ole Miss:



If Ole Miss wins that game they play in the SEC championship and 'bama probably doesn't make the playoffs as they would be in the same position as Ohio State who lost to Sparty 17-14, whereas 'bama lost to Ole Miss 43-37 albeit earlier in the year. Maybe Ohio State gets the benefit of the doubt having won the 2014 NC. And of course 'bama goes on to win the 2015 NC.

2016 is relatively free of controversy imo as Clemson was the best team.

Whereas 2017 without repeating the macro/micro analysis was/is just a messy clusterfuck! Much as I dislike 'bama they do somehow always put themselves in playoff position. Of course good fortune and never playing a competitive schedule helps immensely. And the SEC being highly overrated the past couple years also helps. Indeed, as already mentioned teams 4 thru 14 are hot garbage !!!

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Yielding back the balance of my time ...
 
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Why an eight-team College Football Playoff could come to pass sooner than we expect

Competitive pressures and pure dollars may bring an eight-team CFP into existence sooner than later

The College Football Playoff will eventually expand to eight teams within the length of the current contract and be worth at least $10 billion, former CBS Sports president Neal Pilson predicted in a conversation with CBS Sports this week.

Pilson was reacting, in part, to the regionalized nature of Monday's CFP National Championship between No. 2 Georgia and No. 4 Alabama.

"I think, from a television point of view, any sports executive would tell you he would prefer a team from the different part of the country," said Pilson, now a longtime sports media consultant.

"The best would be a Big Ten team in terms of the size of market."

For the first time in the CFP's brief four-year history, a Big Ten team did not make the field. The Big Ten "footprint" -- its dominant area of interest in the Midwest and Northeast -- includes a quarter of the U.S population.

Also for the first time, two teams from one conference (SEC) are in the playoff. While that's a bonanza for the schools, the SEC, the South and the site of the game (Atlanta), one TV consultant said this could be the lowest-rated game in CFP history.

"There will be some people who probably won't watch it because it's all-SEC," said the consultant, who didn't want to be identified. "It has the potential [to be the lowest rated]."

Low ratings could be one of the stressors that leads the CFP to expand, Pilson said. Former Big 12 commissioner Chuck Neinas told CBS Sports this week that the Power Five commissioners met following the Jan. 10, 2012, BCS Championship Game rematch between LSU and Alabama.

The rating for that game, 14.0, was the lowest for a national title game since at least 2010.

"We met the day after the game and said, 'We need to look at a different system,'" Neinas related.

Out of that meeting emerged the beginnings of the CFP that debuted in 2014.

There has been growing consternation this season that the only undefeated FBS team (UCF) was left out now that it has defeated an Auburn team that both finalists by a combined 35 points. Nevertheless, CFP administration and Power Five commissioners have said repeatedly there is no momentum to expand the field.

However, Pilson firmly believes the bracket will double to eight when the current ESPN-CFP contract expires after the 2026 playoff.

Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...off-could-come-to-pass-sooner-than-we-expect/
 
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All this ad nauseam CFP discussion aside it's good to remember how fickle the selection process has been the past (4) years:

2014 if JT doesn't get injured and replaced by a well rested CJ who has a (3) game run for the ages. If sadly Kosta Karageorge, Zeke's close friend, doesn't pass away inspiring Zeke and his teammates to go on a (3) game run for the ages.



Starting with a 59-0 clocking of Wisky which propelled the Buckeyes into the playoffs. TCU was the pissed off 2014 team whose only loss was 61-58 to Baylor. btw, one must admire the Big12 for their consistency in refusing to play defense! :biggrin2:

Moving along to 2015 and Arkansas' miracle play against Ole Miss:



If Ole Miss wins that game they play in the SEC championship and 'bama probably doesn't make the playoffs as they would be in the same position as Ohio State who lost to Sparty 17-14, whereas 'bama lost to Ole Miss 43-37 albeit earlier in the year. Maybe Ohio State gets the benefit of the doubt having won the 2014 NC. And of course 'bama goes on to win the 2015 NC.

2016 is relatively free of controversy imo as Clemson was the best team.

Whereas 2017 without repeating the macro/micro analysis was/is just a messy clusterfuck! Much as I dislike 'bama they do somehow always put themselves in playoff position. Of course good fortune and never playing a competitive schedule helps immensely. And the SEC being highly overrated the past couple years also helps. Indeed, as already mentioned teams 4 thru 14 are hot garbage !!!

tenor.gif

Yielding back the balance of my time ...

We still would've been on the outside looking in... and maybe for Alabama to be honest. If not them then it would've been Stanford.

Also are you kidding me?! We have to put up with this system until 2026? Just void the damn thing and start over.
 
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This is the 2nd damn time Alabama is playing for a national championship when it should have been OSU (2012 as well). Unbelievable the luck they have at our expense

Alabama benefits from more than luck. In the BCS they were given a do over as a 3rd place team and won the title. They're in position to benefit from another 3rd place SEC finish in the CFP. This will always be a problem as long as subjective BS like "the eye test" is used to justify selections. Teams/coaches like Alabama/Saban stand to benefit from it more than others. Instead of expanding the playoffs to "eye test" our way into four more teams, reduce the subjective element by making only conference champions eligible to be selected for the four team field.

Didn't win your conference but "feel" you're still a top four team? Shit happens, bum juice.
 
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Alabama benefits from more than luck. In the BCS they were given a do over as a 3rd place team and won the title. They're in position to benefit from another 3rd place SEC finish in the CFP. This will always be a problem as long as subjective BS like "the eye test" is used to justify selections. Teams/coaches like Alabama/Saban stand to benefit from it more than others. Instead of expanding the playoffs to "eye test" our way into four more teams, reduce the subjective element by making only conference champions eligible to be selected for the four team field.

Didn't win your conference but "feel" you're still a top four team? [Mark May] happens, bum juice.

I try not to get legit pissed at college football. But that year i'm pretty sure I watched no bowl games because of how pissed I was about that ridiculous LSU/Bama rematch. Of a game that was awful the first time. (That they still swear was the DEFENSIVE GAME OF THE CENTURY!, even though any non biased person could see was more awful offense than great defense)
 
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If it were to go to 8, give all power 5 conferences an auto bid. Every P5 conf selects their representative (AD vote or what have you), regardless of the conf title game winner (which obviously in most cases would probably be the default selection) and a similar CFP committee select teams 6-8 and the do the seeding. Get rid of one of the non-conference games early on and host round 1 in lower seed home.

This maybe a really bad idea, but I'm snowed in and bored....
 
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If it were to go to 8, give all power 5 conferences an auto bid. Every P5 conf selects their representative (AD vote or what have you), regardless of the conf title game winner (which obviously in most cases would probably be the default selection) and a similar CFP committee select teams 6-8 and the do the seeding. Get rid of one of the non-conference games early on and host round 1 in lower seed home.

This maybe a really bad idea, but I'm snowed in and bored....

:lol: That would make things pretty interesting, and cause a lot of butthurt.
 
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You'd have to eliminate divisions and make it like the Big 12 where everyone plays eachother and the top 2 make the CCG. If you wanted to really do a 8 team playoff right.

However you cant really do that with 14 team conferences.......unless each P5 cuts a team or two and another conference is formed.
 
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If it were to go to 8, give all power 5 conferences an auto bid. Every P5 conf selects their representative (AD vote or what have you), regardless of the conf title game winner (which obviously in most cases would probably be the default selection) and a similar CFP committee select teams 6-8 and the do the seeding. Get rid of one of the non-conference games early on and host round 1 in lower seed home.

This maybe a really bad idea, but I'm snowed in and bored....

I prefer an Occam's Razor approach to problem solving. This ain't it.
 
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Alabama benefits from more than luck. In the BCS they were given a do over as a 3rd place team and won the title. They're in position to benefit from another 3rd place SEC finish in the CFP. This will always be a problem as long as subjective BS like "the eye test" is used to justify selections. Teams/coaches like Alabama/Saban stand to benefit from it more than others. Instead of expanding the playoffs to "eye test" our way into four more teams, reduce the subjective element by making only conference champions eligible to be selected for the four team field.

Didn't win your conference but "feel" you're still a top four team? [Mark May] happens, bum juice.
What gets me about this is the "eye test" bump for Alabama this year is pretty much just based on the Vanderbilt and Ole Miss games. Vandy was all of 3-0 at the time and their defense was supposed to be fantastic. They finished 5-7 and 1-7 in conference. Ole Miss was supposed to give them a game for no other reason than they've done it in the past. They finished 6-6 and 3-5 in conference. Alabama blew them both out and people shit their pants.

Bama did not look a great team against A&M, Mississippi State, LSU, or Auburn
 
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