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2017 College Football Playoffs (and Other Bowl Games)

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Bottom line is opportunity is everything.. and Alabama will have won 3 championships because of this belief they're untouchable.

Getting a rematch with LSU, going in 2012 because OSU couldn't Go, and now this year AGAIN without winning their title.

It's no secret these championships mean they can then go out and hand pick their recruits too. Which in turn create more championships due to their talent level

Alabama is a he'll of a team but no one gets the opportunities that they do. Not even us
 
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bukIpower said:
Bottom line is opportunity is everything.. and Alabama will have won 3 championships because of this belief they're untouchable.

Getting a rematch with LSU, going in 2012 because OSU couldn't Go, and now this year AGAIN without winning their title.

It's no secret these championships mean they can then go out and hand pick their recruits too. Which in turn create more championships due to their talent level

Alabama is a he'll of a team but no one gets the opportunities that they do. Not even us
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OSU couldn't compete in 2013 game after 2012. But we probably would have got in against ND that year. Point remains.
 
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What if we went to 8 team playoff, where every conference champion mattered, and every game mattered? Here's my fantasy proposal:

7 10-team conferences. Think old school, something like:

ACC
BC
Clemson
Duke
FSU
GT
Miami
UNC
NCST
VT
Wake

B12
Baylor
IowaST
Kansas
Kstate
OU
OSU
TCU
Texas
Ttech
WVU

B10
Illi
Indiana
Iowa
mich
MSU
Minny
NW
OSU
Purd
Wisky

PAC
USC
ArzST
Ariz
UCLA
Wash
Stan
WSU
Oregon
Cal
OregSt

SEC
Bama
Burn
Florida
UGA
Kentucky
LSU
Miss
MissST
Tenn
Vandy

BigE
Louisville
Pitt
Syracuse
Virginia
Penn St
Maryland
Rutgers
South Caro
Army*
Navy*

Central
Nebraska
Utah
Colorado
Missouri
Ark
TaMu
NoDame*
Boise*
BYU*
Houston*


*subject to change, based on Independents and likely competitive additions.

Conferences play all 9 other teams in-conference +2 or 3 out of conference games. Finish at the top of the conference, get automatic bid. Conferences can choose their own tie-breaking rules. 7 spots taken care of. 8th spot is at-large and can come from any conference (which makes scheduling strong out of conference match-ups enticing), or from the also-rans. Let the committee choose the 1 at large, and then seat the field. Let 7 power bowls rotate the playoffs annually, or play first round at home.

Will never happen, but that's something I'd like to see. Would make all the games important, keeps most rivals intact, and takes much subjectivity out of the playoffs, while expanding.
 
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Gizmo said:
What if we went to 8 team playoff, where every conference champion mattered, and every game mattered? Here's my fantasy proposal:

7 10-team conferences. Think old school, something like:

ACC
BC
Clemson
Duke
FSU
GT
Miami
UNC
NCST
VT
Wake

B12
Baylor
IowaST
Kansas
Kstate
OU
OSU
TCU
Texas
Ttech
WVU

B10
Illi
Indiana
Iowa
mich
MSU
Minny
NW
OSU
Purd
Wisky

PAC
USC
ArzST
Ariz
UCLA
Wash
Stan
WSU
Oregon
Cal
OregSt

SEC
Bama
Burn
Florida
UGA
Kentucky
LSU
Miss
MissST
Tenn
Vandy

BigE
Louisville
Pitt
Syracuse
Virginia
Penn St
Maryland
Rutgers
South Caro
Army*
Navy*

Central
Nebraska
Utah
Colorado
Missouri
Ark
TaMu
NoDame*
Boise*
BYU*
Houston*


*subject to change, based on Independents and likely competitive additions.

Conferences play all 9 other teams in-conference +2 or 3 out of conference games. Finish at the top of the conference, get automatic bid. Conferences can choose their own tie-breaking rules. 7 spots taken care of. 8th spot is at-large and can come from any conference (which makes scheduling strong out of conference match-ups enticing), or from the also-rans. Let the committee choose the 1 at large, and then seat the field. Let 7 power bowls rotate the playoffs annually, or play first round at home.

Will never happen, but that's something I'd like to see. Would make all the games important, keeps most rivals intact, and takes much subjectivity out of the playoffs, while expanding.
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What they need to do and it'll never happen because it sacrifices money is to scale back to a 10 game regular season and then just have a regular playoff like HS as well as every level of NCAA does.

play 3 non conference games and 7 conference games then you play 4-5 round playoffs. One of the huge draw backs is we aren't guaranteed to see our boys more then 10 times a year but this is how it's done at every level of football otherwise. Besides if they lessened the amount of regular season games I think the demand would become even greater for when the games actually do happen. As we've seen with the NFL oversaturation isn't something you can maintain without seeing a decline eventually.

I'm so tired of controversy and not knowing who your champion is many of the years (Not a coincidence it's normally when Alabama wins it). In HS or other levels of college football you know exactly who the best is at the end and there's no excuses or conversation about it.

I WANT THAT.
 
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bukIpower said:
In HS or other levels of college football you know exactly who the best is at the end and there's no excuses or conversation about it.
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No, it's usually a battle of attrition, luck er injuries, and focus especially at the (15) game high school level. If this college season of no dominating teams has proven anything ie Iowa over Ohio State 55-24, the U over ND 41-8, Pitt over the U 24-14, Syracuse over Clemson 27-24, Auburn over GA 40-17, Auburn over 'bama 26-14, UCF over Auburn 34-27, ND over Southern Cal 49-14 etc. etc it's that on any given Saturday shit can happen!

When 'nova beat UNC on a last second shot two years ago did that prove definitively that Villanova was the best team? No, it just proved they were the best team that day.

Upsets happen all the time, especially in championship games of all sports at all levels. Golden State is still trying to figure out how they lost 2 of the last 3 games vs the Cavs at home two years ago. And how did the Cavs take GS to (6) games three years ago w/two star players down to injuries. I digress.

ok, 1995 Nebraska was definitely the best team.

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How many other 1995 Nebraska's can you think of?
 
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shiloh said:
No, it's usually a battle of attrition, luck er injuries, and focus especially at the (15) game high school level. If this college season of no dominating teams has proven anything ie Iowa over Ohio State 55-24, the U over ND 41-8, Pitt over the U 24-14, Syracuse over Clemson 27-24, Auburn over GA 40-17, Auburn over 'bama 26-14, UCF over Auburn 34-27, ND over Southern Cal 49-14 etc. etc it's that on any given Saturday [Mark May] can happen!

When 'nova beat UNC on a last second shot two years ago did that prove definitively that Villanova was the best team? No, it just proved they were the best team that day.

Upsets happen all the time, especially in championship games of all sports at all levels. Golden State is still trying to figure out how they lost 2 of the last 3 games vs the Cavs at home two years ago. And how did the Cavs take GS to (6) games three years ago w/two star players down to injuries. I digress.

ok, 1995 Nebraska was definitely the best team.

60838940_1995-neb.jpg


How many other 1995 Nebraska's can you think of?
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Miami 2001?
 
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lvbuckeye said:
Miami 2001?
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eh talent wise maybe. I recall 01 Miami escaping against Boston College and Virginia Tech though (plus getting a layup vs Nebraska in the title game because of the BCS, though to be fair I dont think Colorado or Oregon beat Miami in that game either)

95 Nebraska pretty much dominated everyone.
 
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shiloh said:
Maybe, but they only beat 8-3 VT by 2 and VT had (5) turnovers.

Interesting 2004 Southern Cal is/was looked at as a whirlwind unstoppable force, but they only beat Stanford by 3, Cal by 6 and UCLA by 5. And of course the Reggie Bush investigation/sanctions voided their BCS NC. :rofl:
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I think youre mistaking the 2004 USC team for the 2005 USC team, the one who lost to Texas.....ESPN was pushing them as the greatest ever, even though their defense was not very good for a tean youd try to consider "all time" (39th in total D 27th in scoring) Barely escaped Fresno State + the bush push escape vs Notre Dame
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
I think youre mistaking the 2004 USC team for the 2005 USC team, the one who lost to Texas.....ESPN was pushing them as the greatest ever, even though their defense was not very good for a tean youd try to consider "all time" (39th in total D 27th in scoring) Barely escaped Fresno State + the bush push escape vs Notre Dame
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Oh, man....that Fresno State game....I don't remember how many points Reggie Bush scored for me in fantasy football, but it was insane. :lol:
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
I think you're mistaking the 2004 USC team for the 2005 USC team, the one who lost to Texas.....ESPN was pushing them as the greatest ever, even though their defense was awful (think they finished like 60th in total defense) Barely escaped Fresno State + the bush push escape vs Notre Dame
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Actually looked at their 2005 season first and saw/remembered the ND game where Lienart had the illegal, at the time, "Bush Push" to help him score and thought, hmm must have been the 2004 team that was considered unbeatable. In reality they were good to be sure, but not an all-time team in any way.
 
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Fungo Squiggly said:
Oh, man....that Fresno State game....I don't remember how many points Reggie Bush scored for me in fantasy football, but it was insane. :lol:
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I remember that game having a LATE ass kickoff time for some reason (Like 10:30 EST). Bush had like 350 combined Rushing/Receiving yards. Him and the Fresno State QB chucking 4 picks are why USC won.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
I remember that game having a LATE ass kickoff time for some reason (Like 10:30 EST). Bush had like 350 combined Rushing/Receiving yards. Him and the Fresno State QB chucking 4 picks are why USC won.
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Yeah, I just looked it up. 23 carries for 294 yards plus 3 catches for 68. Only two TDs though. Bum juice.
 
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