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2016-2017 Ohio State Men's Basketball (Official Thread)

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HabaneroBuck said:
I just feel sometimes things compound and we are in a tailspin right now. I don't know how good of a recruiter Matta is right now, because we have to give him credit for his 2015 class, at least "on paper." They were the number 5 class on 247. The 2014 class with D'Angelo, KBD, Jae'Sean, and David Bell was ranked 6. The 2011 class had Shannon Scott, Amir, Trey McDonald, LaQuinton Ross, and Sam Thompson for a number 6 rank.

I don't know if it's the type of guys Matta is getting or what, but other than D'Angelo, NONE of the guys in those classes have lived up to the billing. They are recruiting the wrong players, or not developing the guys they've got, or something. The magic is missing. I don't think Matta is disliked as much as Cooper was in football, so he's got a long leash with the fans, but we are seeing a similar story arc. After Coop had given us Eddie, Orlando Pace, and David Boston, watching Steve Bellisari throw passes into the ground just wasn't going to be tolerated for long.
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I don't see much parallel to Cooper at all. Cooper consistently lost big/rivalry games. Matta's record his first 8-9 years was excellent in those kind of games. He used to own *chigan, and had a solid tournament record (2 Final Fours, a Championship Game appearance, 2 other Elite-8's). As for the recruiting, he has recruited some decent (on paper) guys, but like you said, they didn't develop outside of Russell. That's coaching. I also think they're not recruiting the right kind of players. They're not getting guys that fit together on the court.
 
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LitlBuck said:
Perhaps you need to read the Recruiting Forum a little bit to keep up with things.
Spellman is currently ineligible at Villanova.
Kennard was never going to come here.. Camped at Coach K's camp.
Bragg never was interested in Ohio State.. Are you going to drag him down here..
Ahmad--what has he done at West Virginia that has been so productive.

Potter is only a freshman and I think he has very nice potential. Bell is a decent backup center and has a lot of eligibility left.
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I'm aware Spellman is ineligible this year - don't care, would still want him committed to OSU after going to a year of prep or JUCO. Kid is a 5* top 10 talent, why wouldn't I?
Kennard and Bragg - you state the exact reason why I want a change....when top in-state kids don't even give you a look, that is the very problem. We aren't successful, haven't been in some time, don't push kids to the NBA, play a brand of basketball that is not exciting and that leads to a cricket crowd.
And as others said on Ahmad - he's a sophomore who is the leading scorer on a Top 10 team....if that's not enough for you, I don't know what to say.

Potter has potential, sure.....but Bell? He was a reach from day 1 and it's shown ever since.
 
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I'm a huge fan of Thad. I think every fan is, or if they're not they should be. I think he's earned this year and next year to se if he can right the train. But if he can't do it by next year that's 5 years where the team is basically a non-factor in the BIG, let alone nationally. That's not good enough. I don't agree with the people who say, "well, the program wasn't good before Thad and he made it good." For one thing I don't get the logic of "it used to suck, so if it sucks now that's ok." For another Thad isn't the only coach who has had success in program history. A good coach can win here.
 
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Tanner said:
I'm a huge fan of Thad. I think every fan is, or if they're not they should be. I think he's earned this year and next year to se if he can right the train.
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Six years of steady decline, and getting blown out by Wisconsin at the moment.

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Tanner said:
I think he's earned this year and next year to se if he can right the train.
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10 minutes to go and down 30...he's earned this year but not next year. THIS was the year to "right the train." The train has been off track for 4 years. Any more, and we're talking about righting a train with no wheels. Speaking of trains...this team literally is a train wreck.

I'm only watching this game because I'm a fan of Kalil Iverson on Wisconsin. Kid from Delaware who is best friends with my wife's friend's son.
 
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So they should probably fire Thad. Tonight. Not one second later. Unwatchable at this point. I mean what else do you even want at this point? Tied with Rutgers for last place... Why should he even get this year to right the ship?
 
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shiznit7 said:
So they should probably fire Thad. Tonight. Not one second later. Unwatchable at this point. I mean what else do you even want at this point? Tied with Rutgers for last place... Why should he even get this year to right the ship?
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Because he's done too much for this program to be embarrassed in that manner.

This season is lost, either way. He should be given the opportunity to step down on his own at the end of it.
 
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Jake said:
Because he's done too much for this program to be embarrassed in that manner.

This season is lost, either way. He should be given the opportunity to step down on his own at the end of it.
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He has a $3.2 million per year contract. At this point, it's about basic business sense, which is all that the athletic department boils down to anyway. What's wrong with informing him that he's done at the end of the season and put feelers out now?
 
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