2016-2017 Ohio State Men's Basketball (Official Thread)

[Jake]

Depends on how much they're willling to spend. We aren't a blue blood. If you want a big time coach, you're gonna have to pay them big to come here. Thad is a top-10 paid coach, so they'll spend. But the names you named are many of the ones I've thought of. I'd back the Brinks Truck up for Gregg Marshall if I had my druthers.

We're probably putting the cart in front of the horse here, though. It's easy to do all this speculating on a message board. Doesn't mean Matta's going anywhere just yet.

Exactly. I wouldn't be surprised if Thad is our coach next season. I wouldn't be optimistic either, given what we are now and the list of recruits.

I'd love to get Marshall too, but he's not making much less than Thad with his new contract. At Wichita, he's the man. The second biggest sport there is the baseball team.

 

[buckeyemania11]

I'm not sure they'll "definitely" get 16 at this point.

That game last night was over in 10 minutes, and Thad seemed very calm - especially compared to the intensity we're used to seeing from him. He even had a few smiles for Bucky after the clock ran out. I didn't sense any urgency from the players or their coach after getting their doors blown off on national TV. I would've been embarrassed and upset to have been a part of it.

If they don't come out with some fire the next game, after what happened last night, when will they? They're not good enough to win without out hustling, out working, and out coaching the other team.

Not sure where 6 wins would come from.

They only get Rutgers, Penn State and Iowa 1 time each. I have zero confidence that they go 3-0 in those games either, 2-1 would be a victory.

Nebraska they play twice, The corn are improved this year so who knows, MAYBE they split?

Northwestern once, Northwestern is the better team, maybe they pull it out of their ass but no confidence.

scUM is a possible win, they are just as bad.

I'd be shocked if they beat Sparty, Indiana, Wisconsin, Maryland or Minnesota.

 

[NFBuck]

I see 4-14. Anything more than that will shock me, frankly. 3-15, or even 2-16 are possible. This team is THAT bad.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

0-18. Show the Browns how it's done.

 

[Steve19]

This season feels a lot like Fred Taylor's last season. It must be very difficult for Coach Matta and the team right now. I hope that they can pull themselves together.

 

[LitlBuck]

I didn't last 20 minutes (real time) tonight. This team is late Randy Ayers-era bad. It's a dead horse at this point, but the Matta-era has run its course. This game might just be the death rattle.

There is a difference between Ayers could "recruit" but was a very poor game coach. Matta can coach but lately has had a hard time getting the right recruits.

 

[CFPBuckeye]

There is a difference between Ayers could "recruit" but was a very poor game coach. Matta can coach but lately has had a hard time getting the right recruits.

I don't want to keep piling on but, I'm not sold on Matta's "coaching." He can win with the Odens, Conleys, Sullingers and Russells but when he doesn't have them, that's when it comes down to coaching. As we saw with the players who have left and those who are still here, they aren't being coached up right. I have always been skeptical of the offensive philosphies. Mostly, it's just been pass it around the arc, back and forth, until they take a three pointer or a forced two.

 

[LitlBuck]

I don't want to keep piling on but, I'm not sold on Matta's "coaching." He can win with the Odens, Conleys, Sullingers and Russells but when he doesn't have them, that's when it comes down to coaching. As we saw with the players who have left and those who are still here, they aren't being coached up right. I have always been skeptical of the offensive philosphies. Mostly, it's just been pass it around the arc, back and forth, until they take a three pointer.

You must never have seen Dandy Randy coach a game in the NC AA tournament. I saw him get ripped by Louie from St. Johns in person and I do not even want to bring up the regional final game against ttun in Lexington.. He had so much talent he did not know what to do with it and it showed.

 

[CFPBuckeye]

You must never have seen Dandy Randy coach a game in the NC AA tournament. I saw him get ripped by Louie from St. Johns in person and I do not even want to bring up the regional final game against ttun in Lexington.. He had so much talent he did not know what to do with it and it showed.

No. I didn't watch college basketball then. I don't see what it has to do with Matta's inability to take lesser talents and make them competitve with fundamental play. Without stars, the team is just not competitive or smart or tough. Ayers might have sucked as a coach but I don't see how that makes Matta a good coach by default. He's just not a great coach, at least anymore, whether someone else sucked more or not.

 

[LitlBuck]

No. I didn't watch college basketball then. I don't see what it has to do with Matta's inability to take lesser talents and make them competitve with fundamental play. Without stars, the team is just not competitive or smart or tough. Ayers might have sucked as a coach but I don't see how that makes Matta a good coach by default. He's just not a great coach, at least anymore, whether someone else sucked more or not.

I was comparing the two and you commented but you never even saw Dandy Randy coach so maybe you better not comment when I respond to a post by @NFBuck

 

[CFPBuckeye]

I was comparing the two and you commented but you never even saw Dandy Randy coach so maybe you better not comment when I respond to a post by @NFBuck

You said Matta can coach. I replied to that. Very basic. Matta has had more talent than plenty of teams that Ohio State has lost to or barely beaten lately. Ease up with the "maybe you better not" comments.

 

[LitlBuck]

You said Matta can coach. I replied to that. Very basic. Matta has had more talent than plenty of teams that Ohio State has lost to or barely beaten lately. Ease up with the "maybe you better not" comments.

Nevermind. You seem to know about a coach that you never saw coach. I understand that you want Matta to leave or be fired or whatever. Also "maybe you better not"

 

[CFPBuckeye]

Nevermind. You seem to know about a coach that you never saw coach. I understand that you want Matta to leave or be fired or whatever. Also "maybe you better not"

I don't need or claim to know about Ayers. He could/couldn't coach, whatever. Irrelevent to whether Matta can. He can't. He needs first round talent to compete. Without it, his ability to coach on it's own, is average at best.

Don't "maybe you better not" me again. Or else...

 

[LitlBuck]

I don't need or claim to know about Ayers. He could/couldn't coach, whatever. Irrelevent to whether Matta can. He can't. He needs first round talent to compete. Without it, his ability to coach on it's own, is average at best.

Don't "maybe you better not" me again. Or else...

I will agree that Matta has not recruited very well in the past couple years but when you say that Matta cannot coach I just strongly disagree. I think he is one of the better "basketball" coaches in college basketball. I think you need to talk to some people who know the intricacies of basketball.

 

[CFPBuckeye]

I will agree that Matta has not recruited very well in the past couple years but when you say that Matta cannot coach I just strongly disagree. I think he is one of the better "basketball" coaches in college basketball. I think you need to talk to some people who know the intricacies of basketball.

Agree to disagree. I don't see the smarts and fundamentals with these teams lately. I could be wrong. What I see are teams that still have talent but are still outcoached by lesser teams. UT San Antonio? Florida Atlantic? These teams don't have Ohio State talent even when Thad doesn't recruit well. The difference is coaching. Ohio State can't beat these teams just by showing up anymore and the team is getting outcoached. I can't think of any other reason. Player development is also on the coaches and there isn't much improvement in that area either.